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    More samples I have just finished. I'm very interested in your opinion as I'm not so happy with them. Thanks!








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    This comes across as 21st century "RenFair" (Renaissance Faire being a traveling... show... here in the states where people dress in costume, do Shakespearean plays, drink mead, joust) Hair, clothing, tack, rendering, tones all suggest modern day rather than Hyborian age. This happened 20,000 years ago! Clothes should be filthy pelts hacked by ragged knifes crudely stitched with rawhide strips. Hair should be unkempt rather than perfectly coiffed by a 21st century Beverly Hills salon. If you want to sell Hyborian Age, use Hyborian tools. Ditch 21st century tech, lose the computer and work with pens, brushes, sticks...

    This probably stems from the writer but, you went along with it, so... Is Sonja the greatest warrior of her age or a cheap blowup sex doll? You start out great by eschewing the bikini but, then you take a hundred steps back with a cheap ass shot. Would you draw Conan shoving his hairy pimpled ass straight into the camera? When did we last see Conan squeezing his boobs together, pursing his lips, and begging some big boy to give it to him hard? If you want to do porn, great, do porn but Sonja's not the place. Women make over 70% of reading purchases in general. In comics we're lucky if it's 10%. Why the difference? Because we, as an industry, have worked extra hard to drive women screaming into the hills with stuff like this. If you want me to think Sonja could survive a sword duel with Conan, portray in the same light as Conan rather than sex fluff.

    Other assorted notes.

    Be more consistent with your light sources. Lose the rim lighting. Get rid of all tones and ask "how would an Hyborian Age artist fake a 'gray'" Learn the difference between breasts and Dagmar bumpers. Get some slop in there. Make it look like a human hand was involved.
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    • #3
      these are good, but many of the poses seem too stiff to me
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      • #4
        Stiffness is for me difficult to get rid of. I'll keep practicing!
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        • #5
          I like what you’ve done, it looks very good
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          • #6
            If stiffness is an issue, I would suggest doing poses with stick figures on scratch paper, then pick the best poses for the final version. There is a section of “How to draw comics the Marvel way” where they demonstrate doing action poses with stick figures as an exercise.
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            • #7
              Thanks Ace, I will try what you're suggesting!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Almayer View Post
                Thanks Ace, I will try what you're suggesting!
                No problem, I’m nowhere near as advanced as you, but sometimes non-experts can be arm chair quarterbacks.

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                • #9
                  Agree about everything being too smooth. A couple stains and a bit of grime would go a long way. For the halftones, try a drybrush technique. Solves all of the above mentioned, including stiffness, as it brings a moment of coincidence with it.

                  in the closeup, she reminds me of a friend who would look in two Directions when really drunk. It was pretty sure he would be out in 30 minutes at that state. not sure if this helps though
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                  • #10
                    Ok, so again taking two steps forward and one step back in your opinion.
                    Honestly, I do not see artists changing styles or tools according to the type of story. Maybe this kind of story does not fit my way too clean to ink, I'll try to choose the scripts better.
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                    • #11
                      Honestly, I found the other scripts fitted your style better, but all in all were still very sterile, the life is missing somehow imo. Maybe switching up tools could help you rely more on gut instinct and feel than rules and learned stuff. Technically you got a lot going on, but I never feel anything. I am not saying abandon what you do, just try something different from time to time.
                      and keep posting, always looking forward to the next set
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Almayer View Post
                        Honestly, I do not see artists changing styles or tools according to the type of story.
                        Pardon me while I act like a self aggrandizing ass and make this all about me, me, me. One of my proudest moments came after a live, on-stage, interview right down the street from you in beautiful downtown Gijon. During the interview, huge slides were projected against the theatrical screen behind us. After the interview, an older gentleman approached. He seemed a little upset, like a man on a mission. Fortunately I had Sergio Aragones with me to translate as I know just enough Spanish to order dinner at my local cantina.

                        The gentleman wanted to know why the interviewer kept referring to me as the artist when it was obvious to all that I had to be the writer. I assured him that, while I had a hand in writing much of what was displayed, I was, in fact, the artist of the various works shown. " The Sci-fi, comedy, fantasy, historical, super-hero, girl with the dragon, the mad puppet with the guns... that was all you?" By this time, we'd drawn a small crowd and everyone assured him that it was, in fact, all me. He shook his head, said he'd thought it had to be the work of a dozen artists or more and wandered off muttering to himself. To this day I suspect he thinks he was victim to a commie plot.



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                        • #13
                          There is some good stuff in this pages, your attention to detail being one of them. In my humble opinion, i would concern myself more with light and shadow, instead of line. . Everybody sucks in the beggining, you are allready far from sucking, keep going, i have no doubt you'll get where you want.

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                          • #14
                            hey Almayer
                            meant to respond earlier but kept getting "unapproved"
                            Just wanted to say your dedication and hard work always shows, as others have said these pages do feel a little stiff given the subject matter, whereas,conversely your previous Ms Marvel pages had bags of character.
                            One little thing in addition to all the excellent advice above, The horses look really samey, well drawn horses but they look like clones of one another, I don't know why that stood out to me but thought it was a little example of where more character could be found.
                            would be interesting to see your roughs on these, actually I'd be really interested to see some pages in traditional media, may loosen things up.
                            Strong work as always though, Like I said, always impressed by your commitment, looking forward to whats coming next.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Smitty View Post


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                              Without derailing the thread too much, Smitty what was the Callisto piece from? it's an absolute beaut, I need that Black and white print
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