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    Okay, this is the last of these drawings where the character is just floating in space. I vow to add backgrounds and have them doing something. So help me GOD!
    Anyway, Here is Hawkeye. I dont really like that forward boot, but I got sick of redrawing it so there it is
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  • #2
    duuuuuuuuuuuuude

    thats sick , i love it.

    must be hard to pull off a good shot in the air like that

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    • #3
      Yeah, that boot angle is the only thing bothering me. But you're right, at some point you have to stop reworking it and move on.

      Nice piece Pif!
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      • #4
        if the back foot was pointing the same way and you could see the bottom of the foot i think it would look more right. very good drawing.
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        • #5
          His drawing hand is angled the wrong way and his drawing fingers should be out. It took me a moment to realize what was seriously bugging me about this piece and that's it - my brain doesn't allow me to believe he's drawing back on his bow with that hand position and it threw everything off for me. It's really well done otherwise - even with the foot weirdness. My only other suggestion is to make his mouth a tad less toothy. Right now his tooth-gritting grimace is almost Joker-ish. You can easily remedy that with a bit more shadow on the inside of his mouth from the sides.
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          • #6
            yep, fine rendering and anatomy. The pose is only wonky from the foot's position.

            the only other issue is the way he's drawing the bowstring back. Not really a good hand position to show him drawing a bow with, he's really got no grip on the string and such.

            nice work.

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            • #7
              Yeah, I should have had his hand rotate and have his fingers over the bow strings. This is what happens when you dont look at reference for something like this. Damn it!

              Thanks guys for the crits, its really helpful you bastards.
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              • #8
                although its not how you have here, some people can draw a bow with thumb and finger pinching the arrow end/string, which is kinda close to what you have. but i agree, a fingers over the string would look better for realism sake
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                • #9
                  Thanks angletread, that would have worked, but I still would have to change the hand position.
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                  • #10
                    Amazing man. Really. The point of view were looking at him looks kick ass. Maybe make his grin (?) a little smaller though.
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                    • #11
                      Nice. Glad to see another artist using Blue lead. Never can go wrong with blue. Good structure and all around well developed drawing.


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                      • #12
                        First off, allow me to welcome you to Penciljack! It's always nice to see artists of your caliber gracing these boards!

                        It's a nice drawing in many ways, Pifalo. I've always been a fan of Hawkeye, so it's great to see someone tackle drawing him. I think drawing is both dynamic and interesting, and it's wonderfully "old school", which I truly appreciate a lot. Those things said, I think there are a number of areas where the drawing could stand some improvement. In the spirit of being helpful, let me see if I can point out a few things for you

                        For starters the lighting is a bit inconsistent on Hawkeyes face. The shadows there don't seem to jibe with the shadowing on the rest of his body. Most of the overhead light seems to be coming from a light source coming down at a diagonal from the right side of this drawing. This means that the shadows on the nose, would fall mostly on the right side of the nose and below the nose at a diagonal angle--not straight beneath the nose as you've indicated. There's also more than a good chance that Hawk's right arm is in a position to cast a shadow that would fall over his right knee.

                        I really don't think you need to indicate the facial muscles above Hawkeye's eyes showing through the material of his mask. It really doesn't add anything to the drawing, and only serves to make the drawing less credible and believable. You've gone out of your way to draw a fairly realistic Hawkeye, so it's odd to me that you feel the need to add in these extra lines. In my opinion they don't enhance the expression all that much, and they sort of add age to his face. You should be able use his eyes & mouth in conjunction with the shape of the eye holes of the mask to get across all the expression information. It's best to keep things uncomplicated, clean and simple. That's always the most effective way to convey visual info.

                        There are some anatomy issues that need to be worked out here and there. The left forearm looks to be a little small in the foreshortening--especially when compared with the rest of upper arm. The wrist bracer doesn't help matters much from a visual standpoint. The forearm just appears to be a bit on the stubby side. A minor thing, maybe, but worth some mention.

                        Another area of Hawkeye's anatomy that is a little weird is the lower left leg. Looking at this leg, it seems like you were trying to draw the upper leg from a straight-on POV, yet the lower leg seems to be at more of a wormseye POV. I think the fix is pretty simple. The wormseye POV of the lower leg is the way to go. To fix this leg, I recommend located the knee a little higher of the leg than you've indicated here. The calf also needs some work. Widen and round off the tops of the calf muscles to sell the dramatic foreshortening to the viewer. Right now Hawkeye's lower left leg appears to be a bit gimpy and underdeveloped when you compare it to his more muscular right calf. The solution is to beef up his left calf to match the right.

                        Regarding the pose of Hawkeye's right hand, I'm inclined to agree with others in this thread--the hand should probably be turned differently. I think a more natural hand pose would entail the palm side of the hand turned upward.

                        For your convenience and to further illustrates some of the points I've mentioned in this critique, I've prepared a quick overlay image in Photoshop with some notes and comments, here and there. I hope you will find this overlay image to be of some help and use.

                        I wish you the best of luck on this drawing. It's very clear to me that you have a tremendous amount of skill and talent, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work posted on these boards!

                        Take care,
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                        • #13
                          I likes this alot! Nice. I don't know what it is, but for some reason I was amazed at the shading...I was enthralled, I can't look away from the shading work...damn good stuff ya got there!!

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                          • #14
                            Just once, I wanna click on a "Hawkeye" drawing and see a picture of mid-70's Alan Alda in army fatigues. Just once...

                            Awesome as always, Pifalo. Awesome.
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                            • #15
                              Snateyingling- Thanks a lot, I'm glad my shading was good for you, but try to get a hold of yourself... you can look away now.

                              UnsungGuru- That would be awesome. he would be in surgery shooting arrows at the enemy

                              Loston- Thanks so much for the detailed crit and kind words. I know it takes a lot of time to do detailed critiques, and I want you to know I appreciate it.
                              The issues you brought up, I am in complete agreement with. Especially the left forearm, yours looks so much better and clearer then mine. The bigger calf muscle on the forward leg looks way better too.
                              Again, thanks so much for the help. Your not nearly as big a jerk as everyone around here said you were
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