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  • "Grotesque Hollywoodisation' of Marvel and DC Comics"

    sad but true.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/greg...-and-dc-comics
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  • #2
    thats a damned shame.

    Everyone was yelling and cheering and telling people to STFU when Marvel got bought and when DC switched over to WB.

    A LOT of people thought no good would come of it, they were right. hell, look at even the quality of artists they use now a days.
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    • #3
      You would think the massive amounts of money they make from the movies would've helped create better comics but I guess it did the opposite. Didn't see that one coming. :/

      And it really sucks for the new guys who want to work with Marvel and DC. Its just not the same anymore.
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      • #4
        Cause they were doing so well on their own..., Dont get me wrong I think theres alot wrong with how DC and Marvel have been known to treat people the last couple of years. But they both needed the financial backing. DC is starting to do one thing right though, they are giving female writer and artists a chance, something that theyve been yelled at alot over the years for not doing. Marvels biggest issue that they have going on is people are kinda sick of the near constant "epic-crossover" story lines and they were annoying fans with them before The Disney overlords bought them. Those storylines also restrict writers and artists from actually being able to do something special with a run. From everything Ive been reading though DC and Marvel both need to learn how to treat the talent because it sounds pretty dismal. Thats just from a purely fan based view so not terribly relevant.
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        • #5
          Isn't this a nicer way of saying what Marko Djur-whatever said? When you guys were complaining about him not caring about drawing someone elses superheros, because they weren't his and he got tired of it. At least the first part of the article.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by astrocity20 View Post
            Isn't this a nicer way of saying what Marko Djur-whatever said? When you guys were complaining about him not caring about drawing someone elses superheros, because they weren't his and he got tired of it. At least the first part of the article.
            He was a hypocrite. He talked MAD sh!t on Superheroes and American comics in general in an older interview, then money came his way and he changed his mind suddenly and became Marvel's #1 cover guy.
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            • #7
              Rucka is a little late to the party; this just comes off as "You can't fire me, because I QUIT !".

              I liked his work on Batwoman, but for the most part, Rucka has been part of the problem.
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              • #8
                who've seen the the upcoming Marvel NOW! solicitation are at somewhat of a loss when it comes to the new creative teams. I can think of one in particular talent on the upcoming Iron Man book that I can't seem to wrap my hand around.
                who is this talent the article is referring about
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SHAMWOW! View Post
                  who is this talent the article is referring about
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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by KarAnde View Post
                    DC is starting to do one thing right though, they are giving female writer and artists a chance...
                    Are they really giving female writers a chance?

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                    • #11
                      You are seeing a grotesque Hollywoodisation of the two main companies. There was at least a period where I felt that the way they wanted to make money was by telling the best story they could; now the quality of the work matters less than that the book comes out.
                      Popninja should be happy. lol Not sure how I feel about this subject though. On the one hand, Marvel/DC are hiring new talent that I like to do stuff like Robbi Rodriguez, Connor Willumsen, and continue to hire guys I already like. And why would Rucka even care if they threw Punisher into a team book after his run is done? It's up to the next writer to create a reason Frank would do the things he does in their run, right? On the other hand, I don't really care about 98% of Marvel/DCs titles because I don't find them appealing or they don't have artists I like on them. Even the critically acclaimed ones I guess. I'd buy a throwaway tie-in mini series drawn by Greg Tocchini before I buy a critically acclaimed series drawn by Mike Deodato just because of my art preferences.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Johnny Blaque View Post
                        Popninja should be happy.
                        Actually, I am. Not because they're supposedly sacrificing quality to get their books out on time. But because they're finally getting back into the idea that the CHARACTERS are more important than the CREATORS. In that regard, I'm happy.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CyberLord View Post
                          Are they really giving female writers a chance?

                          http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/0...ue-of-amethys/
                          I read Amethyst last night and actually rather enjoyed it. And while yes rape or threat there of has become rather cliche in comics, I dont think it should be shied away from. But maybe that's because I live in the 7th worst city for a woman to live in because of things like that actually happening, without the rescue.

                          As to are they giving them a chance, batman #12(2012) female artist, The writing on amethyst was actually decent and they are realizing after the complaints they've gotten that they need to be giving women more of a shot, which I think is great. Though maybe they shouldn't have let it become such an issue in the first place by hiring talented people regardless of gender.

                          Not that gender is an issue jsut in the comic industry but any, just as my job hunting has figured out in most other industries its the other way around, being female gets you the job, which sucks for guys like me who need work.
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                          • #14
                            People are just now noticing that the Big Two are the publishing equivalent of record labels that exploit the hell out of their creative talent and take all the money. Nice job, everyone. It only took... 40 years to catch on to what Will Eisner was talking about.

                            I am done caring about this. One or two creators here and there wising up and crying about it. Everyone had your chance in the 70s, 80s, 90s (creator owned books, image, etc) and you STILL threw it away for corporate money. Countless stories of creators being screwed. Frank Miller rants against hollywood and Wizard Magazine. All ignored FOR THE CHANCE TO DRAW SPIDERMANZ. At this point you get what you deserve if you go work for the big 2. I don't feel sorry
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Popninja View Post
                              Actually, I am. Not because they're supposedly sacrificing quality to get their books out on time. But because they're finally getting back into the idea that the CHARACTERS are more important than the CREATORS. In that regard, I'm happy.
                              creators will always be the ones bringing the characters to life. IMO, can't place one on a higher priority than the other. It's like arguing who is more important, Mom or Dad
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