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hey i got a ? that i been thing of for some time. Is it all right to draw form other people work? I been drawing for some time. I have come by idea's to draw on and for some reason i just can't get the idea on the paper. see i keep it up and for some reason i just can't see me geting good at. I have to look at something and i just don't like doing that as mush. Tell me the way to get over this and what i should do here
Stop drawing other people's work, start drawing from life. You only hurt yourself by learning from people who make mistakes of their own.
Buy drawing books, take photos, carry sketch books, draw everything.
Then go back to comics.
I disagree, Xadrian. There's a lot to learn from copying another person's drawing. Don't do it forever, and never try to pass it off as your own, but there's no reason to discount it as a learning tool, either. Especially if you're a kid. I'm sure we all started drawing that way.
I'd dare say every one of us, at one time or another, has copied from a favorite comic book or two. I'd also hazard a guess as to that's how most of us got started in this pursuit in the first place.
If you see something that inspires you, there's nothing wrong with copying it as a learning exercise. But don't just try to put down the same lines in the same relative positions. Try to understand why the lines are where they are, how the lines were made, what's the underlying structure, etc.
Xadrian's right in the long run; you'll need to form your own opinions about your artwork, and it's tough (some say impossible) to do that when you're just copying other artists' work. But there's nothing wrong with pulling out some work from a favorite artist every once and a while and doing studies on his or her techniques.
In terms of getting over having to have a picture to draw from ... well, there's no magic formula. It just comes with practice. Draw. When you're done drawing, draw some more. When you get tired of that, draw a little more, even.
When you finish a drawing, take a look at what you like about it. Remember that. Then take a look at what you don't like about it, and remember that, too. Try to take both those things into account on the next drawing. It's as simple and as complex as that.
Theres really nothing I can add,but to say when I got started ( about 36 yrs ago ) the only learning tool I had was my Comics,and I'd set for hours Drawing other artist work,as time went buy I soon found that my own style was coming threw,and not long after that,and studying more I was able to create my own original piece.now drawing off the top of my head looked pretty cool,but with out a visual reference,there was errors and drawings half done because my mind didnt see the hole picture.So dont neglect your studys and Visual reffs.
you can only get better,I myself see me getting better the more I stick to it.
you keep at it!
Everyone always says "draw from life". I guess that's a good thing to practice, but personally, I never do it. And I almost never actually "copy" (as in drawing the same thing as what I'm looking at on another paper). In fact, I've only done it twice that I can remember (obviously I've done it a lot more than that, but I'm talking in recent memory.) I know I've found old drawings I've done that I just copied.
Anyway, I suggest looking at other people's artwork and using it as a guide. Not just copying it, but perhaps seeing how it's drawn and attempting to incorporate that into your own drawing. Like if you have trouble with a certain pose or doing feet or hands or whatever. Get another picture and use it as a reference. I do it every once in a while, and I find that it usually helps quite a bit.
Now, I understand what people are saying about copying being a good learning tool and all that jazz, but I for one do not condone it. There's a story I read in an art magazine about anatomy. There was some kid and his dad gave him this human skeleton to study. He had him sketch it day in and day out, just sitting and sketching this skeleton that was standing in front of him. Then one day the father took the skeleton away and told his son to draw it from memory. He couldn't.
So copying is all well and good, but you may not learn from it. In order to learn, you must understand how things work for yourself, not just drawing what you see. That's why I suggest doing your own sketches and try drawing things at different angles and in different positions than just what's on the page in front of you.
"Ok, so one near-pissing, a milkshot, and a grown man reduced to tears... Yep, my job is done here."
Valid point. I don't believe people are saying "Draw from life only". I sure don't mean that. Drawing strictly with reference (or from life) is as bad a crutch as copying someone's work outright - you don't understand, or learn, the nuiances of every curve or line that way. By copying or referencing only, you tend to rely on your subject to pull your art through and not on your own abilities. Also, you tend to develop a dependency on referencing and copying and hamper your own creative skill.Originally Posted by GRiM
Drawing is a lot like memorization. In order to have a line make sense is to know where to put it and when to put it there. That comes through both practice, emulation, referencing, and of course, doing it on your own. Crawl before you walk as the saying goes. The example above is like putting a kid in one of those things with wheels that allow them to roam around like they're walking. The first time you pull them out and try to make them walk, of COURSE they'll fall after being so reliant on that device for their balance for so long. Keep doing it, and they'll learn to walk eventually right? That's the same principal applied to referencing/copying/drawing from life.
By all means, draw from life, use reference and copy other peoples work to LEARN. Don't neglect drawing without those crutches, or you'll never grow as an artist. But don't deny yourself of the benefits that referencing offers either. There's a fine balance you need for it and if done well, you'll succeed.