Hanoi Jane

[alric]

Got this e-mail from my best friend in the Army.......


"KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget."


Yeah,she apologized.but a million apologies won't do anything for the men she betrayed and murdered.Nobody gives a f**k about her anyways...........

[GuardianOdin]

keep it moving.That whore needs to be shot.

We went over this in school about what she did to them.She doesn't deserve any type of award or honor.

[Mike]

Man.. that's just sick. What the hell was she doing?

[Akira X]

who's jane fonda? is she hot?

[chynco]

Originally posted by Akira X
who's jane fonda? is she hot?

i don't think so... although she was a superhero: Barberella ;cap;
(ooh a deadly space blow-dryer)


and video work-out queen

[J_Trez]

He should have kicked her ass

[legend of 8]

Oh, THAT Jane Fonda....

She's still alive??? *shrugs*

[bindlestitch]

Yes, we quickly forget and all to often make light of the deaths of others. Cruel deaths at that.
I know she appologized but she shouldn't accept this award and she should publicly state why she shouldn't recieve it imo. That I hope would heal a few wounds.
How terrible that would be to truly be sorry for what you have done and to have to carry that guilt. I hope she truly has turned from that life because a lot of people lost their lives because of her actions. I know she can be forgiven but there are still consequences (sp?) to our actions and at the very least her consequence should be to not accept this "award".

[StrayTanGenT]

Yes... but should she not be allowed forgiveness simply because she's a celebrity? Wouldn't another person be forgiven for something like this?

I'm not saying it's right or wrong to give her this award, but unless she's a heartless, pathological person, I'm pretty sure she's been torn apart by what she inadvertantly did. To kick her down and make her feel like shit again just because she doesn't parade around with a scarlet letter isn't exactly what America is all about either.

People screw up. She screwed up BIG TIME. She suffered BIG TIME public humiliation and persecution already. Not to mention she is a pariah type icon of anti-war sentiment for many years yet to come.

[penciljack]

The opening letter in this thread is way late and only partially true. Fonda did toe the line for the North Vietnamese, but the bit about the soldiers handing her scraps of paper is apparently false:

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.htm

This doesn't mitigate the wrongs she did do, however. From what I can gather, Fonda never really suffered at all for this outrage. I don't know how you could say she was any sort of "pariah" unless I just missed something (in which case, please, feel free to let me know).

Personally, I think what she did was treasonous and she ought to have been tried for it. But as we all know, the rules are different for Hollywood folks than they are for the rest of us.

One this is clear, however - as Barbarella, Jane Fonda was HOT.