Comic Art mixed with photo Manipulation

[dfbovey]

I think most people reading wouldn't even notice.

[weirdozhead]

I would've noticed but probably not known what was going on.

Photos in comics are really nothing new though, Kirby and Steranko were using them in the 60s, Sienkiewicz was doing a lot of cool things with mixed media in the 80s (paint mixed with photocopy mixed with traditional inks, etc, etc..).. I remember some regular issues of Amazing Spidey from the 80s that I think used some manipulated photo backgrounds

[Johnny Blaque]

Salvador Larocca and Chris Bachalo use them in a minor way. Like they'll use a picture of the sky or the ocean or something in the background window of an interior or something.

[SPINE]

My problem with things like this is that it usually ends up being photos for backgrounds and drawings for figures. In order for things to be mixed well, i think it should be mixed further.

This spiderman is one of the better ones, but it's still in the "I don't want to draw backgrounds" box for me.

[NickRocks]

I used to hate on guys like maleev/land/ross for using so much photos and shit. but then i realized art is art and i really don't care anymore (btw, land's issue of avenging spiderman with hawkeye was dope).

Neal Adams did this stuff too on his batman run EYE EYE ARE SEE

I like the pages posted

[Huerta]

Art is art but there is such a thing as bad art. People like to bring up that its subjective, sure I guess, but just because some one likes it, it doesn't make it good.

[Fallenangel]

I think it all comes down to what people think "comics" are.

For some it's mostly about storytelling - so they simply do not care if it was traced, drawn by hand or whatever - they are here to read about their favorite characters' adventures.

On the other hand, for some it is more about the art - those people do care about the process, and about how the art was produced - did the artist "cheat" by tracing photos or he drew it from references.

Those are to "extreme" edges of the same scale though, however, imo most readers (i might be wrong here) tend to lean toward the "story telling" group.
The reasons for that "lean" may vary, but imo it is because of the young age of the comics/manga reading public and also due to the lack of "i want to be an artist" aspirations.

Fallen.

[Caimano]

I'd like to add my opinion.
I'm a reader and I'm an artist (sort of). So when I pick up books as Criminal drew by Phillips and GCPD or DD drew by Lark I know what's behind, I know and I recognize when they ink over a photo or trace something, but I don't feel they're faking me, becauseI see all the rest: a great storytelling a good page balancing, good characters expression and everything is drew as I like very well. Besides the photo ink has done very well too in a way that fits the rest.

I feel more faked instead when I see people that draw "WOW" boards but with poor storytelling or bad lightening without known the basic, but just trying to fake me with the "impact", sometimes I see books with shortcuts in drawing clothes and anatomy.

Just my opinion guys and as always forgive my bad English, hope the meaning is clear

[Mack]

As long as artists are up front about it, it's no problem. Don't pretend that you drew something if you didn't.

Also being a commercial artist I know what it means to have a deadline, and they are brutal. What ever helps make a artist's life a little better, it's all good. Personally I give comics artist's a lot of respect for putting our books monthly, it's insane.

[weirdozhead]

I think it all comes down to what people think "comics" are.

For some it's mostly about storytelling - so they simply do not care if it was traced, drawn by hand or whatever - they are here to read about their favorite characters' adventures.

On the other hand, for some it is more about the art - those people do care about the process, and about how the art was produced - did the artist "cheat" by tracing photos or he drew it from references.

Those are to "extreme" edges of the same scale though, however, imo most readers (i might be wrong here) tend to lean toward the "story telling" group.
The reasons for that "lean" may vary, but imo it is because of the young age of the comics/manga reading public and also due to the lack of "i want to be an artist" aspirations.

Fallen.

This is a very good point, personally I have to agree with Steranko on the matter, "Comics are really 75% storytelling, 25% pictures."