Batman & Catwoman

[Whune]

I'm having trouble figuring out the relationship between CW's crotch and thighs in the squatted version

feel free to make suggestions draw overs whatever
on that or otherwise

if I can't sort it out I'm just going to do the standing version;
and give my self some slack: I'm only just getting back into the swing of drawing
better to do something more basic well; than something more complicated and over-thought and poor regardless

I'm drawing on crap paper to get my self momentum
I've been so out of the game bristol board is way to serious and committed for me
I start getting nervous questioning what I really want out of the relationship
and end-up just flaking out on drawing again

*rolls eyes at self*

[Flegler]

I'm drawing on crap paper to get my self momentum
I've been so out of the game bristol board is way to serious and committed for me
I start getting nervous questioning what I really want out of the relationship
and end-up just flaking out on drawing again

*rolls eyes at self*

Wow, Whune - this is EXACTLY the way I feel.

Nonetheless, I like the dynamics of your sketch thus far; you unquestionably have talent and your confidence will sure to follow. The crotching position may look awkward only because of the extreme squat pose. Personally, I would consider less of a squat, or place her squated legs in front of her torso. Just my unexperienced two cents!

[Whune]

hey thanks

and I'm glad my unnecessary self-indulgent ramblings served some empathetic purpose or soemthing
(lol)

the problem I'm surmising (in just now physically trying the position my self) is that I made an anatomical error:
the pelvis needs to be more forward of her abdomen... Ergo the entire sweep of her torso needs to be changed
So the legs and hips need to be completely erased and redrawn.
Plus I was drawing her legs (kneed to ankle) too short
in such a squat the butt and feet are not level
but actually I'll be drawing both the thighs and legs shorter... because the pelvis will be tilted toward the abdomen rather than away from it
(yay)

[qrowdad]

Hey Whune I made a quick scan for you from a pose book I have here at the studio.
It's not exactly the pose you are attempting but it does get you in the right neighborhood.

[Whune]

hey cool
thanks

[yomark]

I'd put this in my screen-saver (my own personal hall-of-honor) if it were a cleaner scan. I personally dislike these cell-phone shots of artwork (doesn't prevent me from appreciating the skill and talent, though).

[Whune]

I'd put this in my screen-saver (my own personal hall-of-honor) if it were a cleaner scan. I personally dislike these cell-phone shots of artwork (doesn't prevent me from appreciating the skill and talent, though).

^_^

hey thanks Yomark;
that's really flattering.

I'mma go ahead and finish this for you then and scan it in now that I've pulled out a computer my scanner works with

it's crap paper; and light boxing stuff worked-up to this stage usually doesn't work for me... at all...

but I've been inspired to just draw what I want to draw how I want to draw it; and not concern my self with if it's perfect or whatever or not... so... yeah.
I'mma just finish it up as is

[Carl_Shinyama]

I know why the squatted version isn't working: The knees are too high and behind her. Lower the knees and place her left knee (our right) in front of her arm, and I think it will make a lot more sense.

Hope that helps.

On a slightly related note: I love seeing other people's rough stages. It's very useful Good job so far

[Whune]

I know why the squatted version isn't working: The knees are too high and behind her. Lower the knees and place her left knee (our right) in front of her arm, and I think it will make a lot more sense.

Hope that helps.

On a slightly related note: I love seeing other people's rough stages. It's very useful Good job so far

thanks
^_^

arm is actually behind thigh; I just do draw-throughs to keep the anatomy flowing like I like it

the main problem to me is that spine is angled wrong.
I tried this pose my self physically; and noticed that my body naturally arches forward rather than the typical "hot woman arching her back" position
if I arch my back while squatted like that... I loose balance and my legs tilt forward to compensate;
so I'm pretty sure it's physics-ly impossible to do

lol: oh the time I'd of saved if I just had taken a second to do the pose my self at the outset

[Whune]

i almost wasn't going to post this cuz it's such a disaster;
but oh well



i was almost going to wax poetic about all the abstract truths of life that are illustrated by this result
and the implied alleged truths for we illustrators

but eh...

I've no interest in including all the clarifications
so it would other wise sound like I was saying something else...
*chuckles*... as tends to happen with tons oh my posts

so whatever:

it was a failure

the end