it's trivializing something awful and traumatic, depicting rape as something reflexive, instinctive, and uncontrollable. it's almost turning it into a joke.
i don't know where you're getting this from to be honest. All I've shown so far is this :
- a fallen society where rape has been legalized
- a bunch of men (villians) who are obsessed with rape (in this future, made-up world)
- men attempting to rape a woman
- they can get erect instantly by a mechanism.
and you're saying that I'm trivializing rape. Where?
It's clear as a bell that you don't even understand what "rape" is.Originally Posted by underwearhero
Your entire storyline trivializes rape because you don't understand what motivates a man to rape a person. Even in prison, it's not about sex.
Educate yourself on the subject, and then we can talk about it. You obviously did NO research on it, and that in and of itself is offensive.
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Unless I am mistaken, I don't think anyone here is a trained psychologist. So far there isn't anything joking going on these pages. Is rape purely about power? I doubt it. Is power a part of it? Of course. But again, none of that seems to be even considered here or even acknowledge explicitly.
My main problem is the premise is just....too out there. You can't have a society where rape is legal because then it is not a society. It is Mad Max and Fist of the North Star, a lawless, anarchic state where might makes right. Even for a comic, that is just hard to get around. At the same time it is still too early to judge this and I hope there is something more than...that.
I like the art and so...I don't know, I am curious but it weirds me out.
popninja:
What motivates a man to rape in OUR society is not important since this is taking place in a future, made-up world. I can have 100 different reasons why these men rape. (there's a whole backstory btw). I haven't given a reason yet, neither told you the backstory to explain it, therefor you're comparing it to our society and it doesn't makes sense to you.
Lonrott:
The backstory would explain how a society decides to legalize rape. There have been a lot of crazy laws (and still are). I'm glad you acknowledge it's too early to judge. Thanks for the reply.
Fair enough. Just a warning, though. I know that you "made this for fun," but understand that, in this society, and in societies all over the world, rape is not something that zombie-like dudes do when they see some boobs. Men, women AND children are raped on a daily basis, for a variety of reasons. So, just be careful. Generally, when an artist plots out a story, they're thinking about what kind of reader that story is intended for. I can't imagine the reader you intended this one for, but imo, it makes me a little pissed off, especially since I don't have the whole story. But I can't imagine what aspect you could add to it that would make me read this and not just shake my head.
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Hey I can see where you're coming from and I know rape is a very touchy subject. I never meant to take it lightly. The only way I could see this go wrong is that if rape was condoned or trivialized which I never planned on doing. In fact, I wanted to show that rape is a bad thing (since the villains do it) and the good guys would be the women hiding and running from them (most women have abandoned society and live underground where they form a resistance). I'd imagine any person who thinks rape is a bad thing would wanna read it since the the whole comic would be anti-rape. Not having given any backstory I can see why you guys are kinda shocked by it.
I decided to delete the whole thing, since it's been taking the opposite way of what I intended.
Last edited by underwearhero; 06-09-2012 at 05:02 PM.
I read this yesterday-ish, I think it was done very crudely. If you fleshed out the idea to the reader, really expanded upon the characters and the setting in the beginning, besides the 2 pages of some guy literally going caveman on a woman in the beginning, you might have something interesting.
We trivialize death and murder every day in entertainment, a horrible thing, but something we're mostly desensitized to nowadays. With something like rape however, it's a much finer line, you don't want to trivialize that here. On a subject like this, you pretty much have to be exact in how you want your story to be conveyed to the reader, otherwise you'll risk a lot of anger and heated emotions directed at you. I often cringe whenever I read that a writer used a rape "backstory" on a female character in comics, it's exploitative and tasteless. But it is something that can be done right, if you put enough thought and care into it.
I think at the next Rapetown Chamber Of Commerce meeting, a motion should be made to change the name of the town before the next tourist season starts.
keith:
Yeah I see what you're saying. Apparently we've been desensitized to death and murder (by the hands of villains). A bad guy can murder hordes of people and we wouldn't be bothered by it as long as he's taking down at the end. But with rape it's not the case. I was trying to use this little chase a way to introduce the world, the setting. like a prelude to the story but maybe it was not a good idea in the end. I myself don't like a rape 'backstory' in films. It's not a fun thing to watch and I hadn't planned any actually rapes to happen (visibly) but even a chase seems to be to much apparently. I appreciate your advice.
cbikle:
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