Pistoleer Page 5!
done with finals on a two week break, and hope to get a couple more pages done before the Xmas art swap looms upon me. so behold!
as before I seek the collective blob of wisdom, and any of your thoughts on the latest page, any tips, or crits you'd be kind enough to throw my way would be much very appreciated
for the previous pages, click here for your viewing and continuity maintaining pleasure, as well as an opoerunity to throw any crit their way.
Page 1 thread discussing it
Page 2 and the thread discussing this one,
Page 3 and so on,
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and without further ado,
right alfter scanning I realze I screwed up the Bay's legs in the first panel, ah well, will fix.
May I give a REALLY strong crit here, P.R.?
Thats kind of ominous, lol..
Be my guest man, thats why i posted them,
This crit is going to just be a few questions.
What or whom are your artistic influences?
What steps do you take to improve your SEQUENTIAL art?
Tom Grummett and Scott McDaniel were big influences when I first got into comics, once I got into Manga Yukito Kishiro and Masamune Shirow. I really try to emulate their high level of detail when I can, and I really love the cyberpunk style stuff they do. of course since I'm doing a western im not really doing that.
the whole Ennis/Dillon Preacher run had an enormous influence on me, and I really like Steve Dillon. Will James is also a big influence.
one of the reasons I wanted to do a western was my disgust with how western comics are drawn without any intrest in proper horse anatomy, technical accuracy ect. I grew up into a ranching family, and have been around horses and cowboys all my life, traveled with rodeo companies and wild west shows, but even friends of mine who have only been around ranching a short while become experts in a short while. the old west has been heavily documented and there are many people immersed in the lifestyle who are eager to share their knowledge. it irritates me to no end to see a horse with a deformed neck, and some clown drawing a guy with his spurs on upside down and a saddle that never existed and has no logical way of staying on a horse's back. dispite a good story all the little details being screwed up bugs me to no end
sorry, got on a bit of a tear there.
Will James and Fredrick Remington were the premere western artists of their time, and still remain the standard of quality. I tend to prefer James though becouse he was an actual working cowboy, and has a better understanding of Bucking physics, he can make a horse look like he's exploding off the page.
as for improving my sequental work,
I really haven't done that many, maybe twenty or thirty pages, and fifteen of those were over 10 years ago. I'm really trying to keep my panels varied, and keep proper eyeflow. I had several correct comments that I was using too many large panels in the previous pages, so this page is an effort to improve that.
this script has also been an excercise in just using expressions, and conveying the story without using any dialogue whatsoever, when it's done I'll really need to remember to leave room for lettering in future stories.
really I'm just trying to get as many as I can drawn and posted, and hope those more skilled than I can tell me what I'm doing right or wrong. I've improved some in the year I've been posting here, but every time I see guys like Loston or Alex post their pages I see how far I've got to go.
had a lot more to say there than I thought I did I guess, lol
Hey! what happened to Charles Russell!....un like Remington who hung around the Calvary ( and has done some Butt-Kicking Work )...Russell lived the Cowboy Indian Days....even trading his work at Saloons for Drink
Just thought I'd throw that in..
My Uncle was a rancher,so I'm quite familiar with horse's and Cattle and Branding season
Russell's cool too, forgot about him 'couse I've been reading so many will james books the last couple of years.
my Dad's a huge Cavalry reenactor and history buff, so I got a lot of Remington to look at as a kid.
we'll have to compare branding stories sometime, heh you use a squeeze chute or did you just rope them?
We would cut them off from there mothers ( the calf's... so they alone were in the corral about 30 of them ) then rope them...Drag'em as close to the fire as dared ( their kicking and being had to get ) grab them over and under an Throw-em on there side's while a roper pulled on the legs also...( Some time the Calf came right down on top of ya..) Hold them down with all ya had while my Uncle Cut gave shots de-horned,notched ears and then Branded....by the end of the day you were more tired than any football player dreamed lol
Originally Posted by The P.R. Man
If you look at some of what you wrote regarding your sequential art, you'll find that you have already identified some of the things that could have been done better with this piece. I would like to see a bit more action (passive action as opposed to in your face superguy action if you know what I mean) in the panels. Some variation in angles and such can easily accomplish this; try doing angles that are difficult for you. Also, don't confine yourself with the panel boxes. It will literally change your art, normally in the way you don't want.
Originally Posted by The P.R. Man
Not a bad Crit Noel...
so are young Jedi knows the path....