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ScottEwen
05-18-2009, 11:11 AM
Since only placeholder posts are allowed in the Strip Jam and Webcomic Jam threads, this thread is going to be for discussion. The editors of the Webcomic Jam (myself, SeanRM, and Wild&Uncouth) will also be using this thread to discuss and approve thumbnails.
First, here's a list of all Strip Jams that have been done on Penciljack, with their current status.
Never-Ending Strip Jam (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88413): ended after 239 panels
Invisible Strip Jam 1: Batman and Robin (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89818): completed
Invisible Strip Jam 2: Ren and Stimpy (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91733): completed
Invisible Strip Jam 3: Marvel Superheroes (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92152): completed
Backwards Strip Jam: Superman and Lex Luthor (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92547): completed
Webcomic Jam (Anchorbird) (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93678): on hiatus
Strip Jam 2.0 (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?102105): open to everyone
Wild&Uncouth
05-19-2009, 04:16 AM
I am pretty jazzed for the webcomic jam!
As one of the editors, I wanted to take a minute to throw out my mission statement of sorts-
Namely, my editorial method won't be terribly involving. I'll approve everything as long as it is not so far out there that I can't think of a single justifiable way for it to make sense in context. Over on the StripJam this is basically all I do- try and make sense of it all with an over-abundance of word balloons.
Some of the best stuff that's goes down in the Stripjam comes from far out ideas. It is stuff that no one sees coming, it is extremely original in motivation, and it provides a wealth of material to riff of for panels to come (MF Doom's entire guest appearance is a good example, imo).
So yeah, I just wanted to put that out there. I'm pretty excited.
Scott is King Shit of **** Mountain for putting all these StripJams together.
-K
P.S. Also, what's the policy on swear words here? I can say shit but not ****? It get's asterixed out, right? Howabout 'bitch?' Can I say that?
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 06:25 AM
As far as I know the F-word is the only word that gets asterick'd out. I don't know why that's the only word we're not allowed to see. On one of the other boards I visit, they use the word-replacement software to make it so anytime someone mentions one of the members, Rich, it changes his name to Fart-with-a-beard. This is hilarious except when you end up saying something like "he's so fart-with-a-beard he can buy and sell our asses."
Spidey
05-19-2009, 07:03 AM
Oooh, editor and I didn't even have to sleep with anybody.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 04:29 PM
I think one thing we should do is discuss inviting a couple more people to the Webcomic Jam. Any nominations?
Wild&Uncouth
05-19-2009, 04:30 PM
Ok. I have to say that i have officially gotten flustered with how long the line has gotten on the stripjam.
Poor coleslaw just finished his panel, and finally signed up for another one. the only thing is he's going to have to wait for 40 more posts before he goes again? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous.
The argument of course is, "well he should have kept up on his placeholders." That is true. What is more important though is the level of accessibility this jam has for people that learn of it and want to get in on the fun. People are waiting MONTHS. That's ridiculous.
I hate to say it- but I think there should be a cap of something like, you can only have 2-3 placeholders max. It gives you wiggle room to switch up who you're following, and when you finish a panel, just like Coleslaw, you can put up a new placeholder now that you've completed your panel.
Just a thought.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Yeah, that's a good idea. The waiting list has been more or less 1 month since the jam started, but recently it's gotten a lot longer for some reason, and there are now multiple pages of placeholders. With my settings, the current panel is on page 7, and the last placeholder is on page 10.
I think maybe 2 placeholders at a time is a good idea. One thing I could do is go back through the thread and delete any posts that go over that limit, which I'm sure will prune weeks off the waiting list.
NickRocks
05-19-2009, 04:35 PM
i disagree, the DMC jam has had longer lines than the strip jam has before.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 04:42 PM
i disagree, the DMC jam has had longer lines than the strip jam has before.
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should. I just went through and counted all the placeholders and you have the most at 7 placeholders, followed by myself at 6 and Wild&Uncouth at 5. There's no reason any of us should have that many placeholders in this thing. I do it because I want to be able to do a panel once every week or two so I post a placeholder every 6-8 posts, but it's not fair to other people. Johnny Blaque and Ratcrack haven't had a turn yet, and BBALLER has 3 placeholders in the thread and hasn't even gone once yet. It's too much.
I mean, I'm thrilled there's such interest in the strip jam that there's three pages of placeholders, but I'm sure it turns off a lot of people from participating. I tried to get my classmate (and W&U's) Kyle in on this, but the month-long waiting list made him not want to participate.
I'm okay with either choice. It could be a bit of work getting rid of the extra place holders though, as that'll be a problem we continually face.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I'm okay with either choice. It could be a bit of work getting rid of the extra place holders though, as that'll be a problem we continually face.
It's not that big a deal to prune the extra placeholders, it just takes a little bit of extra effort to keep track of how many placeholders people have. I do think this is a good idea, though.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Okay it's done. I deleted 22 placeholders in the thread. It's going to suck for a little while for the regulars, since a lot of new people posted recently and people like me, W&U, Spidey, NickGuy, and Taro Mochi are going to have a long time without doing any panels.
An easy way to keep track of this is to only post a new placeholder after you've put up a panel.
Wild&Uncouth
05-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Holy scrap.
I didn't see this coming at all. Don't hate me, peoples!
I do have to say though that i am pretty stoked. I'm interested to see how these youngbloods handle the progression of the story! it's going to be interesting!
And I am also extremely relieved to see the page count decrease. It gives me hope. (what? It does.)
P.S. Hey Scott, it looks like after all that deleting Turtle Boat has two posts in a row (157 & 158). Is that an issue, or is it just up to Turtle Boat to decide whether or not he goes twice in a row?
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 05:54 PM
P.S. Hey Scott, it looks like after all that deleting Turtle Boat has two posts in a row (157 & 158). Is that an issue, or is it just up to Turtle Boat to decide whether or not he goes twice in a row?
Thanks, I didn't notice that. No, it's always been a rule that you can't go twice in a row.
I deleted the second post and restored one of Turtle Boat's placeholders later on in the queue.
NickRocks
05-19-2009, 06:39 PM
oh boo!
haha j/k. It will be nice to see more new faces in this, when you have the same people doing it over and over the story wont be as random, and that what i loved about the beginning of it.
Spidey
05-19-2009, 07:01 PM
That pruning could work against some people. Especially the ones that don't have time to be constantly checking the thread daily for available slots. At least with the old way the could guarantee a slot, now they could potentially never catch window to post a place holder.
ScottEwen
05-19-2009, 07:13 PM
That may be true. Do you have a better solution?
NickRocks
05-20-2009, 06:08 PM
so i think the stripjam needs more randomness.
ScottEwen
05-20-2009, 06:44 PM
so i think the stripjam needs more randomness.
I think the strip jam has just the right amount of randomness. We do want there to be an actual story, y'know, not just a million panels of random jokes.
I'm not a big fan of the Family Guy style of comedy, where randomness and pop culture references = funny. I'd much prefer a cohesive story to emerge, even if the randomness has to suffer. It's always great when something completely random and funny happens, and the story veers off into a new direction for a bit, but my favorite panels are ones like Wild&Uncouth's, where it furthers the story and makes the last few random jokes make sense.
NickRocks
05-20-2009, 07:03 PM
yeah i guess...i just liked the feel of the beginning, when the story could have gone ANYWHERE. it still can, but i think shedding "continuity" would help alot.
ScottEwen
05-20-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't know, man, I'm really interested in where the story is going. That's what's so great about doing a long-form strip jam like this. The shorter ones are great for random jokes, since the whole point is basically to make each other laugh, but this long one has an actual story in it that I'm interested in following. I wanna know what the Major's plan is. I wanna know how he's going to travel back in time and what he'll do when he gets there. Doing stuff like having one character kill another character for no reason may be random, but it's not very funny and hurts the story.
This is why I'm really looking forward to the Webcomic Jam. I for one will be emphasizing furthering the story rather than random jokes. If a joke is funny and throws a wrench into the story in a clever way, I'm all for it, but derailing the story just for randomness's sake is frustrating for the other people involved in the jam.
Wild&Uncouth
05-20-2009, 10:02 PM
NickGuy,
To add to what Scott has said, the randomness factor is not going away in the StripJam. I enjoy random things happening to the characters. A lot of times the only things that CAN HAPPEN are random things to get the next artist out of a pinch. Random characters show up and contribute to the story. Random people sign up to participate. This whole thing is really random.
Here's a list of what I consider to be the random things that have happened since the last time you posted a panel-
1. Vegeta shows up
2. The Major has some giant baby in his stomach
3. Bowser smoking a cigarette
4. Han Solo shows up
5. Samus shows up
6. Maurice from the Steve Miller song "The Joker" shows up
6 random things.
9 panels.
If we jump back 4 panels to your second to last post-
1. The Major knows Dragonball moves
2. Anakin and Obi Wan show up
3. A Wu-Tang samurai shows up out of nowhere and kills the Star King, ending a plotline with a lot of promise, but 'C'est la vie.'
3 more random things.
4 panels.
So for the past 13 panels 9 random things have happened.
70% RANDOM.
30% story structure.
That is more than an adequate amount of zaniness, imo.
Random things happen in stories all the time, while contributing to the overall story arc.
The StripJam's tapestry is being woven in multiple directions. The journey is the fun part. No one here is concerned with getting to the END of the story. It's a Never-Ending StripJam, luck dragons and all.
I don't feel like I ask for much-
SOME characters get to move forward with some semblance of purpose.
Some characters' lives and deaths get to have meaning.
Some characters do not get killed without a good reason.
This is coming from me, the guy who has killed off the most characters in one panel in the history of the StripJam. It just wasn't random when I did it. It was a long time coming, and it was pretty satisfying. People watched that bomb coming down over a number of panels. Someone could have stopped it. No one did. It's one of my favorite moments in the StripJam so far. It also opened up the floodgates for all sorts of new possibilities.
The sky's the limit!
Anyway.
This project thrives on randomness.
Introducing and killing pop culture icons over and over again isn't random.
It's predictable.
ScottEwen
05-20-2009, 10:11 PM
3. A Wu-Tang samurai shows up out of nowhere and kills the Star King, ending a plotline with a lot of promise, but 'C'est la vie.
Ah, but have you seen the latest panel? Taro Mochi just undid that one.
Wild&Uncouth
05-20-2009, 10:17 PM
Taro Mochi just undid that one.
That is so AWESOME!
For that list though I was counting the randomness as stand alone, before the next panel put it into context.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have counted the Major being pregnant, because I explained that with my next panel.
Way to go, Taro Mochi! That is awesome.
Taro Mochi
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
I brought him back!! but in tiny form!! Always liked godwin's design of the character when he introduced him way back when :)
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 10:29 AM
Okay, I've put up my panel. Hopefully this moves the story along because I really want to find out what's gonna happen.
Spidey, what's going on with your thumbnail for the webcomic jam? It's past deadline at this point, and I hate to skip you because I'd prefer you go first rather than me, but I'll do the first panel if necessary.
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 10:45 AM
Great panel, Scott!
I really like how you married the hallway established by VIM22 with the door to Docking Bay C from my panel.
I also really like how you made Spike the currently dead Space Cowboy, and how Samus feels like going to the Star Fortress Cafeteria for a tea.
Before I settled on my 'ZORP!' set-up panel, I was exploring story options and was doing all sorts of weird rationalizing, playing with the elements of colesla's panel. I had to google some things before I found out 'The Joker' reference, I had already thought up a cowboy bebop reference, and was playing around with the idea that Samus Aran was really Samus (L)Aran (alternate future spelling of Lauren), reuniting her with The Major (seeing as how her soul wasn't in the briefcase).
But I decided that was too complex, and realized my mission for my panel was to get The Major to the Star Fortress, seeing as the story was implying he was there, but he wasn't yet. So all that crap got put back into the Idea Machine.
Nice set up with Han Solo, The Major, and the fact that they have to go by the thrown room to get to where they need to be!
I can't wait to see what's in store for them.
Nice job putting that together Scott! Lots and lots 'o word balloons!
Wild and Uncouth - Good point on paying attention in the actual thread! The hatch isn't in the Star Fortress??? DUH!! Next time... Next time.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 10:56 AM
I had to google some things before I found out 'The Joker' reference
Oh man I didn't even get that! I could have had it be JokerSnake if I'd known. Ah well, what's done is done. Also, if I'm not mistaken, JokerSnake's soul is still in a test tube around the Major's waist.
Also, just wanted to point out that I worked in references to both the Special Edition of Star Wars, and the new Star Trek movie into my panel as well. I rule.
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 10:57 AM
@VIM22-
No worries, mate!
If you hadn't drawn what you drew, The Major might still be sitting in the Hatch doing whatever.
You're 'mistake' (and I say that VERY loosely, because like I said, it was not a big deal), was good motivation to cut through a lot of potential b.s. and get The Major to the Star Fortress in a hurry.
@SCOTT-
I just got your "I always shoot first" reference. Sometimes shit goes right over my head. Pretty funny.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 11:04 AM
If I hadn't made the rule about cracking down on having tons of placeholders and severely limit the number of panels I'll be doing in the future, I would just make my next panel Samus Aran sitting in the cafeteria sipping a cup of coffee and going "aaah, good stuff."
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 11:17 AM
BTW, I am also extremely excited by what's going on in the Star Fortress!
There's Han & The Major, there is the Star King and M.J., there are ZOMBIES running AMOK(lol), one of which is the cursed body of SAM (the only other character from 25 million years ago that has appeared), and there also happens to be a plethora of other characters like Samus, that mysterious Wu-Tang Samurai, and then there is Vegeta and Bowser stuck in a jail cell.
And correct me if I'm wrong in assuming this, but unless Vegeta and Bowser find an alternate means of escape, aren't they STILL unable to free themselves?
They spoke of both of "the bosses" being killed, right?
Whether the 'Bosses' are Yoda & the Star King, the Star King & M.J., or M.J. & Yoda, the only one that is actually dead is Yoda, so technically, those guys are still unable to escape if they're dependent on two or more bosses being dead.
Just my two cents.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 11:36 AM
I'm just glad the MOFL briefcase is no longer the MacGuffin of the story.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 01:00 PM
All right, now, about the Webcomic Jam. I'm sorry to have to skip Spidey but it's been two and a half days now and still no thumbnails, so I'm going ahead and post mine.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/ScottEwen/thumbnail1.jpg
This is actually based on a comic idea I came up with many years ago. I drew the first couple issues but I never did anything with them because I thought my artwork sucked and the plot got real complicated later on and I wasn't sure how to end it. I've been wanting to do something with it since then but every attempt I make to get it done, I try to plot out the entire series and it gets so convoluted near the end that it makes my brain hurt.
If you've seen this page (http://www.scottewenart.com/spacekoalas.jpg) I did before for a draw-off, it's me redrawing a page from the second issue. The whole story starts off with a dude waking up on a beach on a different planet than Earth, and he doesn't know how he got there. I'm not sticking to my old plan, so anything you guys wanna do with this premise is fine by me.
Spidey or W&U, if this is fine by you then I'll get started.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 01:05 PM
Oh by the way, if anyone's wondering, I did this thumbnail at 4 inches by 3 and 1/8 inches. That works out to the same size as half a comic page according to my proportion wheel.
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 02:08 PM
Looks good to me!
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 02:34 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/ScottEwen/character1.jpg
Great, I'll get started. Here's a character sheet just so we're all drawing the same guy. Because this is from a comic I attempted to do years ago, I know his name and age and backstory, but I'd prefer to leave all that out so that other people can decide that stuff if they want. The only thing I'll point out is that he has a United States Marine Corps logo (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=HZu&q=united%20states%20marine%20corps%20logo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) on his left shoulder and he is wearing pajamas when we first see him.
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Ok, cool.
Now stop mentioning that he's from something else! He's from the Webcomic Jam. End of story.
colesla
05-21-2009, 02:57 PM
Sweet, there's a discussion thread. I didn't know how to comment without posting a placeholder.
I can't believe you killed off Spike in his first appearance (although I did consider that possiblity when I used the words 'Space Cowboy'.)
Also, it might just be me but I always thought that the Star King was Ol' Dirty Bastard in a star costume.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 03:00 PM
Ok, cool.
Now stop mentioning that he's from something else! He's from the Webcomic Jam. End of story.
Fine! This is a brand new, never-before-seen character.
Also, it might just be me but I always thought that the Star King was Ol' Dirty Bastard in a star costume.
Plot twist!!!
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 05:15 PM
SeanRM asked a good question and I thought I'd copy and paste it here so that everyone's aware. I'm also giving him an extra day to do his thumbnails since he's up in the strip jam and the webcomic jam on the same day.
An extra day would greatly help.
I have to ask before I start planning this out, what sort of direction are we aiming for with this comic?
I just want to make sure I don't go "wacky random" when it was meant to be more subtle.
Thanks.
Thanks for asking. My plan in doing this is to make it more of an actual comic story... something with a plot and character development and such. You can throw wacky things in it if you like, but it doesn't need to be as silly and random as the strip jam.
Basically, I'm treating this like it were a real comic book. Since we plan on having it made into a comic at some point through a print-on-demand place, treat it like something you would be proud to show someone and say that you worked on it.
Spidey
05-21-2009, 06:11 PM
I like where this is going so far, Scott. The 2 suns in the sky is a nice touch. I'm envisioning a military experiment gone wrong.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 06:56 PM
Well, I got really excited about this and started drawing the comic. I'm done inking it and just started coloring, and here's the first panel done.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/ScottEwen/page1panel1.png
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 08:00 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/ScottEwen/page1panel4.png
Spidey
05-21-2009, 08:36 PM
I'm glad you got to start this. My idea was no where near as intriguing.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 08:37 PM
I always start these damn things.
SeanRM
05-21-2009, 09:44 PM
Just posted my thumbnail for the Webcomic Jam, and figured I'd talk about it here so the main thread doesn't get cluttered.
I figured the twin suns were a pass to have a bit of fun with the local flora and fauna. (And if theres one thing I like doing, it's making weird monsters/creatures.)
The critter our hero encounters is what I call a "Kryder" (Yeah, crab-spider with a K and a Y... Ain't I clever?), and it's about the size of a large housecat. Those are its eyes inside its claws.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 09:49 PM
I love it. Approved.
Also, a thought occurs to me. What happens if someone does a thumbnail, then they flake out on finishing their page and miss the deadline? We can't skip 'em, since there's already other people working on their own follow-up pages.
Do we just get someone else to draw the same page? I think that might be the only solution.
ScottEwen
05-21-2009, 10:11 PM
http://www.scottewenart.com/webcomic_jam/page1letters.png
Wild&Uncouth
05-21-2009, 10:21 PM
I actually have a similar question that I just thought of after seeing your panels colored-
How are people to know what color things are? If someone holds out on coloring right up until deadline, the next person will only have two days to color up there stuff. That's enough time to color half a page, sure. There's just not a lot of wiggle room.
Are colors are optional? (Once I start contributing I'll be coloring mean regardless, I'm just wondering).
OH YEAH.
Awesome first 1/2 page Scott! I also already love what Sean's doing as well. When I just logged in I noticed that it was already Godwin's turn, and I thought, "Oh no. Did Sean back out too?" No. He's just super f-ing fast.
SeanRM
05-21-2009, 10:35 PM
Also, a thought occurs to me. What happens if someone does a thumbnail, then they flake out on finishing their page and miss the deadline? We can't skip 'em, since there's already other people working on their own follow-up pages.
Do we just get someone else to draw the same page? I think that might be the only solution.
That's sounds like the only option to me, if the original guy can't finish, then I guess somebody would have to volunteer to take care of it.
Awesome first 1/2 page Scott! I also already love what Sean's doing as well. When I just logged in I noticed that it was already Godwin's turn, and I thought, "Oh no. Did Sean back out too?" No. He's just super f-ing fast.
I just had an idea and went with it. I was gonna do my update for the stripjam first, but this kept gnawing at my brain until I drew it out.
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 07:08 AM
That's sounds like the only option to me, if the original guy can't finish, then I guess somebody would have to volunteer to take care of it.
Maybe we could post it on the bulletin board and get another P'Jacker to help us out and finish it.
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 07:43 AM
How are people to know what color things are? If someone holds out on coloring right up until deadline, the next person will only have two days to color up there stuff. That's enough time to color half a page, sure. There's just not a lot of wiggle room.
Are colors are optional? (Once I start contributing I'll be coloring mean regardless, I'm just wondering).
Colors are optional, as are inks, really. I'm not gonna put any restrictions on how finished the artwork should be. It just needs to be lettered, obviously.
I think if there's a question on how to color a new character, we can discuss it here in the thread, or people can make a little note on their thumbnails when introducing someone new, like "note: his shirt is red and his hair is white." Or something.
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 08:21 AM
Once we have a few pages under our belts, we should invite some other people to do guest spots. Dave Chisholm would be great, as well as pretty much anyone in the "heavyweights" or "middleweights" division in P.U.M.M.E.L. I'm also thinking of people W&U and I went to school with... Rian Miller (larq2525) might be interested but he's so busy he might not have time. Joel Lolar would also be good.
I'd like the regulars to have at least one turn before we start inviting guests in, though.
Wild&Uncouth
05-22-2009, 09:28 AM
What's P.U.M.M.E.L.?
Rian and Joel would be good. Frontirre would be good. Kyle would be good. These last two are complete wild cards though. I have no idea if 1) they'd be willing to do it, and 2) they would actually do it after committing. They're both known to be caught up in their own things most of the time.
I already want to put a placeholder so bad! But unless I've drawn a half page of the actual thing I'm supposed to be working on, it wouldn't be right to commit to this just yet. So this frustration should be put to good use as motivation to draw my actual pages so I can draw a half page here.
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 09:33 AM
What's P.U.M.M.E.L.?
Heh, do you ever venture out beyond the "community projects" section? P.U.M.M.E.L. is the massive Penciljack tournament going on right now. There's three divisions: heavyweight, middleweight, and lightweight, and it's in the second round right now. Unfortunately I lost in the first round to Bathill8, but I'm in the heavyweight division.
Rian and Joel would be good. Frontirre would be good. Kyle would be good. These last two are complete wild cards though. I have no idea if 1) they'd be willing to do it, and 2) they would actually do it after committing. They're both known to be caught up in their own things most of the time.
Yeah, I know. Frontirre might do it if we asked him, but Kyle would bitch and moan about it and then say "maybe" but never post a placeholder. It's his way. Joel, though, I could definitely see him doing it if we asked.
Awesome half page Scott. Got me intrigued with the story.
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 10:15 AM
Awesome half page Scott. Got me intrigued with the story.
Cool. I find it intriguing as well. I can't wait to see what the other guys do with this premise.
Also wanted to say this thread is a great idea. We can actually comment on where all these jams are going. Good idea.
Wild&Uncouth
05-22-2009, 10:53 AM
Heh, do you ever venture out beyond the "community projects" section? P.U.M.M.E.L. is the massive Penciljack tournament going on right now. There's three divisions: heavyweight, middleweight, and lightweight, and it's in the second round right now.
Well, I ventured out from the security of Applied Science and paid a visit to the Proving Ground to check it all out.
Acronyms ABOUND!
What do they all mean?
PSF - Penciljack Street Fight?
PTR- Penciljack something something???
P.U.M.M.E.L.L. - ?.?.?.?.?.?.?.
Also, how often do these events happen, how do you get a rank (light-heavy), and are there PRIZES???
Sorry. this doesn't have anything to do with stripjams, does it?
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 10:56 AM
I think it stands for Penciljack Ultimate Muscle Man Elimination League, or something like that.
PSF is PUMMEL Street Fight
PTR is PUMMEL tournament round, like PTR1 is round 1
There are polls to determine whether you're a lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight.
The only prize is bragging rights.
ITDGage
05-22-2009, 12:16 PM
Maybe we could post it on the bulletin board and get another P'Jacker to help us out and finish it.
You could always put it out there as a 24 - 48 hour drawoff, so that someone who might be overlooked could possibly come in and make a name for himself.
(Obviously not talking about myself, just throwing an idea out there.)
Wild&Uncouth
05-22-2009, 09:09 PM
Jesus Christ!
Godwin, I think you just hit the limit of the max amount of shit you can cram into a panel. THere are SO MANY story points in here, it's going to be sad to watch some get rushed through and fall by the wayside. Spidey, tread lightly!
ScottEwen
05-22-2009, 09:13 PM
Yep. And also...
BTW Does Sammy's dad have a name?
Sammy's dad is named Sam.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa186/makothebeast/scan0002-4.jpg
godwin
05-23-2009, 07:03 AM
Sorry about that Myron was just intended for a poke at Amy Winehouse. The main focus was getting Sam back. As far as Lauren goes, the Major and her are a good team she needs to be brought back. A lot of the Lost references I don't get because I never watch the show. But maybe I should bulk up on it because I have heard that the Island is a time machine of sorts.
ScottEwen
05-23-2009, 08:35 AM
Yeah, that was my main reason for establishing that the Major was in the Swan Station (aka the Hatch), because the Island on Lost has the ability to travel through time.
Which sounds retarded but makes sense within the context of the show.
But I like where you took the story with the shadowy figure on the computer too.
ScottEwen
05-24-2009, 12:15 PM
Hey Spidey and W&U, if you guys happen to approve a thumbnail before I get to it, here's what I've been doing. First I edit the post underneath to say Status: approved by ScottEwen. If there's something wrong with the panel that needs to be addressed before we can move on, just put Status: not approved. W&U, you can just post your approval in this thread and I'll take care of it later.
Now, once I 've approved a thumbnail, I send a PM to the artist that says this:
Subject: Your thumbnail is approved
Now you have two weeks to finish your artwork. It is due exactly fourteen days from when this message is sent.
Once we get a few pages under our belts and have a working title, I'll set up a blogspot or livejournal page for us to post the finished artwork to. Until then you can put finished artwork in the discussion thread.
Then I send a PM to the next person in line that says this:
Subject: You're up in the Webcomic Jam (mm/dd)
Link to their post in the thread
Please respond to this PM or edit your post to let me know if you're ready or if i should pass you.
You'll have one day to respond and then one more day to draw and post your thumbnails, giving you a total of two days to finish. If you don't respond by the end of the first day I will pass you, and if you don't finish by the end of the second day I will pass you.
Here's [previous artist]'s thumbnail:
picture goes here
An easy way to get a link that goes directly to their post in the thread is this. In the upper right corner of each post is a number. For instance, the number of the post above this one is #66. Right-click on that and select "copy link location." That gives you a link to just that post, but if you want it to appear in the full thread, change "post" to "thread". So that
http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1031140&postcount=66
becomes
http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1031140
You can also erase the "&" and everything after it, but it works with or without it.
Spidey
05-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Okay, gotcha!
Wild&Uncouth
05-25-2009, 10:28 AM
@SPIDEY
ZOMG! What a crazy predicament The Major has found himself in!
Everyone has already accomplished in some way what the Major is desperately trying to accomplish himself, but everyone's trying to stop him from going back TO THE DAY that started it all! Ridiculous.
Quick question- You have Lauren going on about Han as 'Maurice,' but Maurice was Spike Spiegel, dead on the floor. Am I mistaken?
ScottEwen
05-25-2009, 10:33 AM
Well, crap. I'll post a placeholder as well, seeing as how this project is in danger of lulling after Spidey.
Yeah, I was waiting to go again until everyone's had at least one turn, but Taro Mochi hasn't posted a placeholder yet and Crimson Spider let his time run out. I sent a PM to Taro Mochi the other day reminding him that the thread is open for placeholders, but if he doesn't reply or post a placeholder soon I'll take a second turn.
This is why we need to invite more people.
Wild&Uncouth
05-25-2009, 10:35 AM
P.S. Spidey, I also have to give you a 'Major' thumbs up for keeping with the continuity of Lauren having such huge boobies.
There are not a lot of girls in this Strip Jam, so the least we can do is have a woman with unrealistically large breasts galavanting around with a lasersword! lol Ah, that's awesome.
Of course, we'll just have to wait and see what happens to her...
Taro Mochi
05-25-2009, 10:53 AM
oh this week is pretty busy for me, so it's okay if you guys skip my turn this time no worries. But if you really need me to post thumbnails I can, should be quick :)
ScottEwen
05-25-2009, 10:53 AM
oh this week is pretty busy for me, so it's okay if you guys skip my turn this time no worries. But if you really need me to post thumbnails I can, should be quick :)
Okay, that's fine. I'll go again then.
godwin
05-25-2009, 02:42 PM
A three dimensional study of The girl's steed. I will post other shots at different angles if anyone wants. Kinda of iffy about that with the way charachters get killed off in these things. Also for reference I was thinking Marty feldman for the man and Angelina Jolie for the girl. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/godwin_1965/100_1284.jpg Made this sucker small in photoshop, If you want Scott i could post the just the link to save space.
ScottEwen
05-25-2009, 02:48 PM
A three dimensional study of The girl's steed. I will post other shots at different angles if anyone wants. Kinda of iffy about that with the way charachters get killed off in these things. Also for reference I was thinking Marty feldman for the man and Angelina Jolie for the girl. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/godwin_1965/100_1284.jpg Made this sucker small in photoshop, If you want Scott i could post the just the link to save space.
Wow, that's going above and beyond, godwin. I like the idea that, when we introduce new characters, we should also post sketches and color guides for the characters. Not that you have to, but it helps people keep a uniformity in the character design, and also discourages people from introducing a million new characters.
As far as people killing off characters willy-nilly like the strip jam, that's one reason why you need to get a thumbnail approved in the webcomic jam. If someone kills off a character on a whim, the editors probably aren't going to approve it. At least, I'm not going to approve a character getting killed off unless it furthers the plot or seems necessary.
godwin
05-25-2009, 02:51 PM
Yeah, anytime i do a fantasy charachter i usually make a 3d sculpey model so i can get a sense of how its built. Bookshelf is full of these little suckers.
SeanRM
05-25-2009, 03:00 PM
Really cool sculpt Godwin, that will definitely come in handy for keeping the creature on model.
Scott, regarding the webcomic jam, since the intent is to have this thing printed eventually - we should save a high resolution copy of our finished half pages right?
Also, what font did you use for the first part? I thought I'd ask so I can keep some uniformity in this.
Spidey
05-25-2009, 06:49 PM
Quick question- You have Lauren going on about Han as 'Maurice,' but Maurice was Spike Spiegel, dead on the floor. Am I mistaken?
I went back and checked the panel and you're completely right. I somehow missed that the yellow speech bubble's tail is going off panel. Do'h!
I could edit Lauren's dialogue.
Spike being dead on the floor makes more sense now, haha. I see Scott was running with the "space cowboy" thing.
Also, I had to nix a few designs I had on Lauren, because of the resemblances to Asajj Ventress and Lady Tron.
ScottEwen
05-25-2009, 09:10 PM
Scott, regarding the webcomic jam, since the intent is to have this thing printed eventually - we should save a high resolution copy of our finished half pages right?
Also, what font did you use for the first part? I thought I'd ask so I can keep some uniformity in this.
Yeah, save a copy of the hi-res file for me. You can send it to ewen.scott@gmail.com if you like, or if emailing it doesn't work for some reason, you can use yousendit.com to send it to me.
The font I used was called Spectre Verde. I got it off Blambot.com.
ScottEwen
05-26-2009, 11:05 AM
I've added due dates to each post in the Webcomic Jam thread.
ScottEwen
05-26-2009, 01:34 PM
I like where this story is going already.
He's not a Marine!!!??!?!? Holy crap, what a revelation. Where did the tattoo come from? Guess we'll find out. I just posted my thumbnail if someone wants to approve it.
Wild&Uncouth
05-26-2009, 02:13 PM
SCOTT=APPROVED.
Hey, I also think we need some better-detailed character designs.
People are working off of roughs, and Marty's costume has already switched up twice, I don't have a clue as to what Elsa is wearing, and the mount doesn't have horns and now does.
People are going to introduce characters as the story progresses, obviously.
Some loose character designs would be much appreciated. Preferably, with a color guide (OR just color notes).
ScottEwen
05-26-2009, 02:20 PM
I added a bit to the "rules" earlier that said that if you introduce a new character, a character sheet and color guides would be appreciated but isn't mandatory. But yeah, at the very least, a quick sketch showing the costume with color notes would be pretty helpful. I have no idea how to draw Marty or Elsa so I'm sorta waiting until I see some progress on Godwin's page before I tackle mine.
Spidey
05-26-2009, 02:43 PM
Anchorbird, omg, lol. Oh, that got me.
Yeah, same here Scott. I tried to keep the designs vague. I didn't want to set anything in stone. Colored design guides for new characters and key items should be a must. At least rough ones.
ScottEwen
05-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Two things need to be addressed.
1) We need to invite a couple more people, because even with 7 people signed up, only 5 of us have contributed. I'm going to nominate three people, you guys can nominate people as well, and let's try to come up with about 3 or 4 people we can invite.
First is Turtle Boat. He's been a regular and reliable contributor to the strip jam, and his panels are usually pretty good. Here's his art blog which has more finished artwork than we're used to seeing in the strip jam: http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92158
Second is Dave Chisholm. His work always impresses me, and he's insanely fast which means he could probably easily fit a half page here and there into his busy schedule. http://davechisholm.deviantart.com/
Third is Joel Lolar. W&U and I went to art school with him, and he's not only fast but his work is solid and he knows how to craft an entertaining story. http://greenskyzero.deviantart.com/
2. The second issue we need to address is a name for the comic. So far we really don't know what the theme or even plot of this comic is so maybe this can wait until we have a few more panels, but once we have a couple more pages done I'd like to set up a blog so we can post the finished artwork to it, and we need to have a name for it so I can set it up.
Spidey
05-26-2009, 07:33 PM
W&U on panel 143, well played, Sir, haha.
Scott, I was going to say Dave Chisholm, but I see you have him listed there already. I'll invite krikkit13, hope we can get a few panels off of him if he isn't too busy.
ScottEwen
05-26-2009, 07:42 PM
Krikkit13 would be a welcome addition to the jam. What do you think about Lolar and Turtle Boat?
Wild&Uncouth
05-26-2009, 08:22 PM
I think Joelar and TurtleBoat would both do just fine.
There isn't as much to fear about a story being knocked off course when we have editorial control. SO I don't see a reason why not.
SeanRM
05-26-2009, 09:29 PM
I'm definitely down for throwing invites to these guys. As it stands right now, things will stall out a bit after my new thumbs go up.
As for a title... The best I can come up with "Maximum Burn - The New Adventures of Anchorbird!" but that isn't a particularly good one. I'll let you guys know if I think up one that might actually work.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/SeanJKS/WebcomicJam-Sample.jpg
Here's a preview of the finished art for my first half-page.
SeanRM
05-26-2009, 11:52 PM
Just posted my thumbnail in the Webcomic thread.
Playing off of what Scott had started, I figured I'd introduce a new player into the field. This guy could be either a villain, or a neutral party... Either way, I figured he could help push us towards a storyline.
I know his sillouette is kinda hard to discern any details from, but I will try to have a costume shot up tomorrow with details.
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 09:35 AM
Okay, let's invite krikkit13, Dave Chisholm, Joel Lolar, and Turtle Boat. I'll send them invites right now.
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 09:51 AM
Just posted my thumbnail in the Webcomic thread.
Playing off of what Scott had started, I figured I'd introduce a new player into the field. This guy could be either a villain, or a neutral party... Either way, I figured he could help push us towards a storyline.
I know his sillouette is kinda hard to discern any details from, but I will try to have a costume shot up tomorrow with details.
I like it, but when I first saw it I thought it was Marty being lifted up into the sky. I would make it a little clearer that it's a new character, maybe by losing the staff or altering his silhouette a bit so that he looks distinct. Other than that, approved.
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 10:05 AM
Dave Chisholm says he's in but might not have time to participate right away.
davechisholm
05-27-2009, 10:07 AM
i'd love to be part of it, even if it's in a small way.
:-)
how does the scripting work?
maybe i should just read through stuff.
it looks cool, though.
thanks for thinking of me!
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 10:16 AM
how does the scripting work?
When it's your turn I'll PM you, then you'll have two days to draw up a simple thumbnail showing what you plan to do. You've got 9"x7" to work with (half a comic page) and you can do 1-4 panels in that space.
Then it gets approved by one of us and you have two weeks to do the finished art.
davechisholm
05-27-2009, 10:23 AM
When it's your turn I'll PM you, then you'll have two days to draw up a simple thumbnail showing what you plan to do. You've got 9"x7" to work with (half a comic page) and you can do 1-4 panels in that space.
Then it gets approved by one of us and you have two weeks to do the finished art.
cool. so you are scripting it? i wouldn't have to script it, right?
:cool:
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 10:31 AM
cool. so you are scripting it? i wouldn't have to script it, right?
:cool:
No no, the story and dialogue is up to whomever is drawing it at the time. So when it's your turn, you can do whatever you want and take the story wherever you like. It's got to be approved by one of the editors before you take it to final art, but unless you start killing off major characters left and right and derail the story, it'll get approved.
davechisholm
05-27-2009, 10:37 AM
No no, the story and dialogue is up to whomever is drawing it at the time. So when it's your turn, you can do whatever you want and take the story wherever you like. It's got to be approved by one of the editors before you take it to final art, but unless you start killing off major characters left and right and derail the story, it'll get approved.
ok. i better get caught up on the story, then...
SeanRM
05-27-2009, 11:17 AM
I like it, but when I first saw it I thought it was Marty being lifted up into the sky. I would make it a little clearer that it's a new character, maybe by losing the staff or altering his silhouette a bit so that he looks distinct. Other than that, approved.
Well, here's the design I came up with - although, I now worry that the staff and robe look might be too similar to Marty.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/SeanJKS/MoonTyrant.jpg
My intent is for his voice to come out of the mask floating over his staff, while his perfectly round head is just sorta there.
I dunno, if everybody thinks this is too close to Marty's look, I could redesign it. I'd also be up for letting somebody else take a crack at the design if they have an idea.
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 01:20 PM
Joel Lolar is in.
Spidey
05-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Jerry Lawler? The wrestler / announcer? Cool!
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 02:58 PM
Turtle Boat is also in.
Taro Mochi
05-27-2009, 08:42 PM
went with seanRM's design for the Moon Tyrant. If you guys end up changing it, let me know :)
ScottEwen
05-27-2009, 08:47 PM
Taro Mochi, the only thing I see in your page that needs to be addressed is in the first panel, it looks like one of the suns is not covered by the moon. It's a double solar eclipse, so both suns should be behind the huge moon.
Just as a reminder to you and SeanRM as well, during a solar eclipse it's like night, so remember to shade it and color it (if you are coloring yours) like it were night time.
Other than that it's approved.
Taro Mochi
05-27-2009, 08:57 PM
AAAAH okay :)
I thought it was two suns being covered by two different moons from looking at your thumbs but I didn't see the big giant moon coming in from above! Thanks. I'll be sure to remember that. :)
godwin
05-28-2009, 05:27 AM
Taro Mochi that was brilliant. all the sweet touches like Marty's eyestalks bulging out. this is really working out fine. W and U last panel was hilarious.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 08:08 AM
Anubis2kx, in the critique thread for my first page, made a good suggestion. ComicPress (http://comicpress.org/) is a theme for Wordpress made specifically for webcomics. I would set up a site on Wordpress.com and we'd all be able to post pages to it, and readers could post comments and subscribe to the RSS feed. That seems like the best way to do it.
Wild&Uncouth
05-28-2009, 10:17 AM
That sounds good, Scott.
Some StripJam Commentary-
As I quietly, negatively predicted while drawing my last panel, I knew the Wu-Tang Samurai would immediately be brought into the story further and would be used as a tool to wound/kill The Major. *GASP*YAWN* I was hoping I was wrong, but of course I wasn't.
I hate to bring this up but I have to ask- What has the Major done already?
He's hurled the universe's largest banana into Donkey Kong's skull.
He's survived a massive nuclear explosion.
He's wandered the cosmos for 25 million years as the King of all Zombies (apparently).
A large portion of his brain and body is now comprised of Space Bees complete with a Hive Mind that allow him to travel through space without the need for a spacesuit or a ship.
At this point, The Major's role in this is merely to be a tortured witness to the universe's wicked machinations.
He is now desperatley trying to set things "right" (and I use that term loosely) in a completely f**ked up universe.
People are trying to stop him all around, FOR NO GOOD REASON.
He's desperately trying to time-travel.
People have already time-traveled. (Holy shit. Scott! SIDENOTE - I saw Star Trek on Monday, and JUST NOW got your "red matter/wormhole" reference. nice.)
People are trying to stop him from undoing things he's being accused of.
If he could stop the Star King from landing that bomb in Asgard, then Lauren would've never been abandoned twice, The Major wouldn't have become a zombie, and Han Solo would've never lost Leia.
YET HAN AND LAUREN both have time-traveled- they could both undo what has happened to them post-explosion, and instead they're using it to track down the Major on a revenge kick.
!!!
I can relate to the Major.
I'm sure he's probably very frustrated.
Which leads me to the question- What kind of damage is a samurai sword REALLY going to DO?
This panel could have gotten the story bumping in addressing some of these issues, but instead stalls it out even further.
There was no setup to the sight-gag of this panel.
I JUST DID this joke.
I have to ask, why bother?
At this point it would be unpredictable, different, and perhaps say more about this project than any words could if The Major just bled out and died from the Samurai attack. It would be an end to his character as tragic as his struggle, and mirrors the very struggle of the entire StripJam- The universe doesn't want to make sense. Don't fight it. Be terrible.
I know I have unrealistically high expectations for the StripJam. They are RARELY ever met. I know that some individuals just aren't as involved creatively. Some aren't capable of recognizing the potential that each panel has.
That doesn't mean I can't wish things were different.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 11:26 AM
Krikkit13 is in too. That's a yes from everyone we've asked so far, although Joel still needs to sign up on Penciljack.
Greenskyzero
05-28-2009, 11:32 AM
he already has Mr.Ewen. Thanks for the invite
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 11:33 AM
Good to have you on board, Mr. Lolar.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 11:37 AM
At this point, The Major's role in this is merely to be a tortured witness to the universe's wicked machinations.
He is now desperatley trying to set things "right" (and I use that term loosely) in a completely f**ked up universe.
People are trying to stop him all around, FOR NO GOOD REASON.
He's desperately trying to time-travel.
I find it funny that both the finale of Lost and the last few panels of the strip jam revolve around a character trying to go back in time and undo something, and both involve an atomic bomb.
You're right that it serves everyone's purpose for the Major to succeed in his mission and yet everyone is out to stop him for no good reason. Hilarious.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 12:19 PM
I might revise my page. Seems like there's a lot of confusion in the critique thread about what's going on and a lot of people aren't seeing the two suns in the final panel.
Spidey
05-28-2009, 12:38 PM
That sounds good, Scott.
Some StripJam Commentary-
As I quietly, negatively predicted while drawing my last panel, I knew the Wu-Tang Samurai would immediately be brought into the story further and would be used as a tool to wound/kill The Major. *GASP*YAWN* I was hoping I was wrong, but of course I wasn't.
Yeah, I seen that coming too, but at least he's not dead. Look at it this way. It's a great opportunity to give him a cybernetic arm or what ever, a plunger arm. That's the point of the strip jam, putting that special unique spice in a pot that's full of other cooks' ideas. Besides having the main character overcome his trials and tribulations is paramount in any great story.
Wild&Uncouth
05-28-2009, 12:43 PM
As a P.S. to my commentary post-
I know that a lot of this stuff isn't anyone's fault directly.
Rationalizing on your feet is part of what the StripJam's all about.
When I rant about time travel, Lauren, the Star King, etc, I know that a lot of this comes out of this-
Someone has a character show up with no real rhyme nor reason other than the character being recognizable and with a pre-established mythology. The character has a beef with someone (of course). Then the next person has to explain WHY this person exists and how they got there. That takes some creative thinking. That's the hard part and the part I feel doesn't get done enough, instead replaced with just bringing in more new, pre-established characters.
It gets boggy.
That's it.
I'll stop bitching now.
I'm still greatly looking forward to seeing where this storyline goes in the 19 panels I must wait before I get to draw my next one.
Spidey
05-28-2009, 12:44 PM
Scott, do you have to buy that ComicPress app?
-I agree that the strip should have somewhat of a regular cast and occasionally introduce new characters. You have to grow attached to the established characters at least some (I totally have the hots for Darth Lauren <3) or else it'll be a series of one-two panel jokes which would get boring. I find it more exciting when you try to tie up old events with current story points. It helps keep the story somewhat coherent.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 01:07 PM
Scott, do you have to buy that ComicPress app?
No, I believe it's free. The Wordpress stuff is free too.
I've written my panel but I might not be able to draw it and post it until tomorrow or Saturday. But it's another dialogue heavy panel and I'm trying to not only wrangle the story back together but also set it up so that it can go some interesting places. My next panel is in about 20 turns, so I'm kind of nervous of where the story's going to be when I come back, so I'm trying to use my panel to get the ball rolling in the right direction.
colesla
05-28-2009, 01:34 PM
I agree with you W&U. Too many random deaths and maimings. You pretty much summed up my decision making process for bringing in Samus too. Han was looking for Major in a place where Major clearly wasn't and I felt I needed to address it. I did so by adding yet another new character to add conflict. That and I secretely want to see the entire cast of Super Smash Bros. involved in this, but mostly because I had to deal with the confusing presence of Han Solo.
I had a good time doing the one panel I've done so far and look forward to doing more but its already become painfully obvious to me that I have no control on what direction is taken with the panel I draw.
All that being said, where was Han in this latest panel and why didn't he shoot first?
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 01:40 PM
I had a good time doing the one panel I've done so far and look forward to doing more but its already become painfully obvious to me that I have no control on what direction is taken with the panel I draw.
Yeah that's true. I used my last panel to set up the Major and Han going into the Star King's throne room, fighting the zombies and giving Sam's soul back to him, then fighting past the Star Guy and Michael Jackson and going down into the basement to get to the time machine.
At least, that's what I envisioned happening. No one else was interested in doing that.
colesla
05-28-2009, 02:22 PM
In Godwin's last panel, Major was holding up the vial with Sam's soul in it to Sam himself. Somehow it never quite made it in.
Also, it just occured to me, how did the Wu Tang Samurai get from the cell where he killed Vegeta in one panel to where the Major is to slice his arm off in the very next panel?
Wild&Uncouth
05-28-2009, 02:31 PM
You're right that it serves everyone's purpose for the Major to succeed in his mission and yet everyone is out to stop him for no good reason. Hilarious.
It is a funny predicament. It almost makes me wish I had a panel where I could have the Major flipping out on everyone- "What the Hell, PEOPLE?! I'm trying to HELP YOU ALL!"
It would be better if the people in conflict with the Major were people who have benefited from the destruction of Asgard- Namely, the Star King.
Han Solo seems to be on board with the Major. he's all about rewriting the past. Lauren's motivations are a bit iffy. Vegeta will hopefully stay dead. Bowser probably wants to get revenge on the Star King and also be selfish and greedy (as he's prone to do in all the Mario Party games). There are an undetermined amount, but at least THREE zombies we know of, running "AMUCK" (misspelled, hilariously so), one of which being Sam's carcass. Michael Jackson's head is incredibly resourceful, and we still don't know who that person was who TIPPED THE MAJOR OFF about the time machine.
If I had been thinking clearly, I probably should've addressed any one of these issues, instead of doing that stupid Wutang Samurai panel.
SHIT.
caseycp
05-28-2009, 02:37 PM
This webcomic is starting off beautifully. Kudos Scott, for all your community-project/comic-jam creations.
A bit of long shot...but perhaps I could be invited into the web comic? I haven't been here long, and only have done 2 panels in the neverending jam...but one of them was in color!
Just wondering...
Spidey
05-28-2009, 02:40 PM
It wasn't stupid it was hilarious.
Lauren's motivations are a bit iffy.
That's what I like about the situation. The girls you have to win over are the ones you appreciate more. The major is a charming, distinguished man, I'm sure he can handle what ever is thrown his way.
Casey, I'll invite you if you do 50 push ups without stopping. GO!
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 02:46 PM
This webcomic is starting off beautifully. Kudos Scott, for all your community-project/comic-jam creations.
A bit of long shot...but perhaps I could be invited into the web comic? I haven't been here long, and only have done 2 panels in the neverending jam...but one of them was in color!
Just wondering...
Well, when I initially made the list of who to invite from the strip jam, I limited it to people who'd done 3 panels or more, so I left your name off the list. But your additions to the jam were really good, and if you want to be in on this I see no reason to say no.
Spidey
05-28-2009, 02:53 PM
Shhhh, push ups.
caseycp
05-28-2009, 02:54 PM
Well, when I initially made the list of who to invite from the strip jam, I limited it to people who'd done 3 panels or more, so I left your name off the list. But your additions to the jam were really good, and if you want to be in on this I see no reason to say no.
Thanks for the props!
I was actually going to throw in for a third panel when the jam was going along at a good clip...and then the amount of placeholders seem to skyrocket all of a sudden, so I didn't bother (but now of course you've culled them down).
colesla
05-28-2009, 02:56 PM
Casey, I'll invite you if you do 50 push ups without stopping. GO!
Wait? Is that what it takes to get into the webcomics jam? See, I thought it would be dependent on art skill and the ability to make a panel relevant to the panel before it.
Shows what I know.
Spidey
05-28-2009, 03:11 PM
Well I'm sorry, but clearly you were mistaken. We want nothing but beefy he-men doing the web comic jam.
Wild&Uncouth
05-28-2009, 03:31 PM
W&U says, "CASEYCP approved. CASEYCP SMASH."
Caseycp drew a giant popcorn-munching Odin, AND quintessentially established what Asgard would look like for 26 panels (until it blew up, of course).
He colored his other panel.
thumbs up.
ScottEwen
05-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Oh yeah, Odin!!! Whatever happened to that dude?
caseycp
05-29-2009, 10:05 AM
Casey, I'll invite you if you do 50 push ups without stopping. GO!
Can i do girly ones?
caseycp
05-29-2009, 03:01 PM
<<Stripjam>> Last night around 3 am, half awake, I thought: "The space bees could assemble and reform the Major's severed arm!"
And then I thought: "What the hell is wrong with me?"
caseycp
05-29-2009, 03:06 PM
<<webcomic jam>>I'm a little unclear what happens in Godwin's third page; does Elsa's mount eat the kryder like a toad? Also, is AB flipping off the viewer in the first panel?
Wild&Uncouth
05-29-2009, 03:10 PM
<<Stripjam>> Last night around 3 am, half awake, I thought: "The space bees could assemble and reform the Major's severed arm!"
Yup, I thought of that too, as soon as I saw krazyricky's panel.
My exact thoughts went something like, "Dammit, that was pointless. The Major has Space Bees. They can connect his arm right back on with their hexagonal SpaceWax. SNORE." lol
godwin
05-29-2009, 05:28 PM
<<webcomic jam>>I'm a little unclear what happens in Godwin's third page; does Elsa's mount eat the kryder like a toad? Also, is AB flipping off the viewer in the first panel?
Yes he is eating the kryder.
caseycp
05-29-2009, 05:46 PM
yummy.....
ScottEwen
05-30-2009, 10:32 AM
Sorry, I ran out of time on my panel. I've been busy all day yesterday and didn't have any time to draw, so it's up to NickGuy now.
Turtle Boat
05-30-2009, 12:46 PM
Vegeta!!!
C'mon, as cool as Wutang clan is, they can't beat vegeta!
Wild&Uncouth
05-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Heaven help us all...
Wild&Uncouth
05-31-2009, 01:30 AM
GreenSkyZero's 1/2 page for the WebComic Jam is APPROVED BY ME.
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 10:26 AM
The deadlines for SeanRM and godwin's pages are this week. Any progress on those? I'd like to see how godwin draws Marty and Elsa before I get started drawing my page.
Greenskyzero
05-31-2009, 10:44 AM
hooray for approval
Wild&Uncouth
05-31-2009, 11:08 AM
I second that. I have not begun to draw my page for this exact reason.
I am getting ANTSY.
Not having definitive character designs really f**ks up the whole flow of this project.
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 11:27 AM
Not having definitive character designs really f**ks up the whole flow of this project.
True. It's one of those things I didn't anticipate when I started this, but now it's turning out to be a big problem.
Another thing is what to do if someone doesn't finish their page on time. If I finish my page and then SeanRM or godwin misses the deadline, what happens? Do we just say "okay, just finish it as soon as you can" even though there are other people in line that are waiting for them to finish?
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 11:31 AM
How about this: when you introduce new characters into the story, you have to post at least a sketch that shows what they look like, what they're wearing, and what colors the costume is. If you don't, the thumbnail doesn't get approved. Does that sound fair?
godwin
05-31-2009, 01:12 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/godwin_1965/maety.jpg Progress is coming along fine. About greenskyzeros page, are we abandoning the 4 panel limit? Fine with me just let the folks know.
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 01:18 PM
Progress is coming along fine. About greenskyzeros page, are we abandoning the 4 panel limit? Fine with me just let the folks know.
The four-panel thing isn't really a hard-and-fast rule. Someone else drew five panels, I think it might have been Spidey. If you need 5 or 6 panels to fit all your story in, go ahead and use them, I don't think anyone's going to complain.
Just remember that it's only a half a comic page, so when it's printed up, if you have a ton of panels, they're going to be tiny.
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 03:08 PM
Turtle Boat, I just discovered something. In Taro Mochi's panel Marty says that "the last time the Moon Tyrant visited, all of the children of this world... disappeared."
But then in your panel Marty says "Uh, this may not be the best time, but they say that the last time the Moon Tyrant came, he also destroyed half of humanity...Just something to think about."
One could make the argument that all the children of the world amounted to half the population, but the way he phrases it makes it seem like he's telling Anchorbird for the first time.
I would reword it so that it says something like "This may not be the best time, but not only did all the world's children disappear but half the adults were killed!"
Or something like that anyway.
Aceschock
05-31-2009, 03:39 PM
What's up fellas,
I was just talking to Savage, and told me of a new jam.
I'd like to hop on if that's cool.
Eric
godwin
05-31-2009, 06:14 PM
Rough draft SeanRM whats the color of the Kryder?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/godwin_1965/martylowres.jpg
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 08:02 PM
Great work godwin!
Bodé kinda looks like Badrock.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Badrock.jpg
SeanRM
05-31-2009, 08:30 PM
Don't worry folks, my half-page will be done before the deadline hits. It's already over 75% done, I just gotta finish it up. I'll try to have it in tomorrow (June 1st) if I can.
As for the Moon Tyrant's color scheme, I wrote it in with his design specs here (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1032641&postcount=99), but if that isn't enough, I can slap on some quick Photoshop colors.
Godwin, for the Kryder's colors - I was thinking a greenish blue. If I'm not done with my halfpage by tommorrow, I'll post up the colored Kryder at least so you can see what I'm shooting for.
Lastly for anyone that missed it, I did post a sample of the finished art back here (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1032443&postcount=89).
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 08:51 PM
I've been working on my page on and off all day. Here's my progress:
http://www.scottewenart.com/webcomic_jam/page6.jpg
Spidey
05-31-2009, 09:40 PM
Man these people have terrible fashion sense, haha.
-Godwin. In panel 3 Marty says " Sorry about that my eyestalks". It reads kinda funny. Shouldn't it be "Sorry about my eyestalks. Is this better?" Or "Sorry about that. Is this better?"
Wild&Uncouth
05-31-2009, 09:43 PM
In regards to Nickguy's panel on the StripJam- How is it ironic when The Major gets his arm cut off from the characters' perspective?
The Major didn't order that Vegeta be killed by samurai sword.
He's not working with the Wutangurai (or is it Samutang? I'm going with Samutang). He's not working with the Samutang.
Where's the irony?
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 09:47 PM
Spidey: Karl and I went to school with a guy named Eric Schock who wants in on the webcomic jam. I don't know what his website or deviantart is, but we can both vouch for him, he's really good and he's really fast. If it's cool with you, I'll invite him to join.
Wild&Uncouth
05-31-2009, 10:03 PM
http://Aceschock.deviantart.com/
There's Eric's dA page.
ScottEwen
05-31-2009, 10:09 PM
I'm moving his post from the strip jam into this thread. At first I thought it might have been a placeholder and a request to get in on the webcomic jam, but after talking to Karl I think he just didn't know where to go to ask and posted it there.
Spidey
05-31-2009, 11:17 PM
Spidey, Karl and I went to school with a guy named Eric Schock who wants in on the webcomic jam. I don't know what his website or deviantart is, but we can both vouch for him, he's really good and he's really fast. If it's cool with you, I'll invite him to join.
Sure, I like his art.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 12:56 AM
SPIDEY'S PANEL IS APPROVED.
I'm digging the duality of vision we've got set up now. Plus, super-sweet rocket-boats are in fact super-sweet, and it would be a crime not to champion that.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 12:11 PM
What would you guys think of just the name "Anchorbird" for it?
It's a unique word so it's Googleable (I Googled it and the closest it came up with is a Facebook page for a band from Ontario called Anchor Bird) and memorable, plus it's intriguing because we don't find out until page 5 what the word means, and it's named after the main character.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 12:22 PM
I secured anchorbird.wordpress.com (http://anchorbird.wordpress.com) just in case. If you guys come up with a better title I'll make a new blog and delete this one.
First thing that anyone involved in this comic needs to do is to go to www.wordpress.com and sign up. At the bottom where it says "give me a blog" or "just a username," select "just a username" (unless you wanna start your own blog, obviously), then post your username in this thread. I'll add you to anchorbird.wordpress.com (http://anchorbird.wordpress.com) so that you have the ability to post to it.
SeanRM
06-01-2009, 12:23 PM
I like it - "Anchorbird" - it's short and dynamic enough, with just a dash of silly.
I approve of it.
Just joined up, my username is - seanrm
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 12:34 PM
Oh I guess I need your email addresses instead of your username. For some reason it won't let me add people by searching usernames, so let me know the email address you used to sign up. If you don't want it public, PM it to me.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 12:46 PM
I'm all for Anchorbird.
It can be difficult to find original, searchable words, and if Anchorbird isn't anything other than some band in Canada, i say YEA. Plus I'm the one who came up with the name, so of course I'm all for it!
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 12:53 PM
Also, there's a section for "links," which I'm going to use to link to our respective websites and deviantarts. If you have a website or dA page you'd like me to link, lemme know.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 01:01 PM
Just signed up for wordpress.
My username is wildanduncouth and I just subscribed to Anchorbird.
EDIT- I just took down my email because you've already added me, Scott.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 01:03 PM
Okay, you're both added.
I'm trying to set up ComicPress and this is reeeeeally confusing. I have no idea what I'm doing.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Okay, I think I've found the problem. ComicPress is a plugin, and plugins are only available on Wordpress.org instead of Wordpress.com. The problem is that on Wordpress.org you need to host all the files on your own server. This makes things a little more difficult.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Okay, it took me a few minutes to log into the hosting account for my website because I forgot my password, but I checked to see how much space I'm taking up so far and I have 154.7 MB out of 10,000 MB allowed (1.55%).
This means I have plenty of room to host Anchorbird on my own website. I just need to set it up, but it should still work the same, that we'll all be able to post to it using our Wordpress usernames.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 01:38 PM
My head is spinning. I have to set up MySQL databases and I don't have any idea what that means. I have a class tonight but maybe afterwards I'll sit down and really try to figure all this out. Hopefully by the end of the week we'll have a working blog we can post to.
Another thing is, we need a logo. Anyone wanna do some sketches?
SeanRM
06-01-2009, 02:54 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/SeanJKS/AB-Page2-web.jpg
Here's the finished page 2 (or second half of page one...)
As far as the links, if you could put one for my da page it'd be much appreciated. (http://kinniku-g.deviantart.com/)
This ended up coming out a little smaller than your first one Scott... Odd, because I did the page size you had stated, then shrunk it down to 72 dpi for the web version.
I'll send both the web and print versions to you later tonight.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 03:01 PM
Nice, Sean! The kryder is pretty awesome, I'm kinda sad now that he dies in the next page.
We should probably set up a standard width for the comics. I made mine 1000 pixels wide but that's including the white space around it.
Why don't we say 800 pixels wide is the standard size? I'll resize mine.
SeanRM
06-01-2009, 03:13 PM
800 pixels sounds like a good standard. I resized the web version of the strip that I emailed to you.
As for the Kryder, I was surprised to see this one die so fast, but who's to say that there aren't more lurking around in this world?
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Hey, here are 3 quick logos I made up while at work. I like each one for a variety of reasons, but I do have a favorite.
THOUGHTS, ANYONE? Critiques?
If you think any of these are usable, but maybe you want to change some things, please speak up, as everything is completely editable.
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SeanRM
06-01-2009, 03:49 PM
I really dig the bottom two, and if the font for "Bird" on the last one was different it'd be perfect. As for in what way "different", I have no idea...
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 03:52 PM
I am partial to the first one because I like the brush-drawn anchor, because not only does it look like it's a person (possibly our protagonist), but the circle can be interpreted as a floating head, much like the moon god guy.
krikkit13
06-01-2009, 03:56 PM
Of those, I like the first one the most.
Maybe something with a tattoo style font? I'll mess around a bit tonight. Maybe I can come up with a few more options.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 05:07 PM
Howabout that?
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ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 06:05 PM
I like it a lot. My only gripe is that it kinda reads like "Anghor Bird" because of the line in the middle of the C.
Maybe move the crossbar of the anchor up above the word "Anchor," and make the circle floating to incorporate that from the other design?
Spidey
06-01-2009, 06:26 PM
I was liking the first one, but now that I see the last one, I kinda like that one.
godwin
06-01-2009, 06:29 PM
Torn between the first one and the last with Scott's suggestion.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 08:04 PM
I really wanna know how Wordpress got this reputation for a "5 minute installation" and having such an easy install. I've been at this for hours and I'm frustrated and have no idea what I'm doing.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm thinking at this point we might just have to go with a regular old Wordpress page and forget the ComicPress stuff. It's way too complicated for me to be able to figure out, and I'm ready to throw my computer out the window. I've done no work today because of this and it's not worth getting this frustrated over.
godwin
06-01-2009, 08:30 PM
Just signed up to wordpress username godwin65 working on colors.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 08:42 PM
Cool, godwin. I just need you to PM me the email address you signed up to Wordpress with, because Wordpress won't let me search for people by username, only email addresses.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 08:59 PM
I left the logo files on my desktop at work, so I'll try out your suggestion tomorrow, Scott.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 09:05 PM
I'm very close to scrapping this and going with Blogspot instead.
I can't do custom edits to the themes (so we can change the colors and add logos) and I can't put up images at their normal size, only small thumbnails that you can't click on to make them bigger. With Blogspot I don't have that problem.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 09:08 PM
Okay, I've had all I can take with Wordpress. It's unusable for what we need it for, so I'm deleting this page and making a Blogspot page. All you need to post to it is a Gmail or Google account, and it's 100 times easier to use and post pages to.
Wild&Uncouth
06-01-2009, 09:12 PM
So I can erase my wordpress account, right?
Spidey
06-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Can I have a go at the comicpress page before you scrap it entirely?
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Can I have a go at the comicpress page before you scrap it entirely?
Sure thing, but in what way?
Spidey
06-01-2009, 09:36 PM
What is it you were having trouble with?
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 09:42 PM
Well, you have to download a zip file with all the Wordpress stuff in it. In it is a config.php file, that you go into and change all your settings. Then you upload everything to your website and run install.php. I did it and it gave me error messages.
I found some detailed step-by-step instructions that I couldn't even follow. It was telling me to click on buttons that didn't exist.
There's all kinds of stuff you have to do configuring MySQL databases and PHPs and everything on your server, and it's way over my head. You have to really know what you're doing in order to set it up and I have no idea.
ScottEwen
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
So I've discovered the reason I can't install it is because it is incompatible with my hosting plan on GoDaddy. In order to install Wordpress I need to upgrade to a more expensive plan.
What this means is that either someone else is going to have to host it, or we make do with tiny thumbnails on Blogspot.
colesla
06-02-2009, 06:33 AM
The hell? When I was only reading the strip jam and not participating it was easier to roll with the punches. Why are Major and Han Solo going to duel all of the sudden? How did Darth Lauren and Major become friendly again so quickly? Why is Darth Lauren attaching Samus's arm canon to Major's body? How is she attaching it to his body, for that matter, considering that it isn't a cybernetic arm but a piece of an power-armored suit that requires an arm to wear, much less operate? And why oh why is she attaching it to the wrong arm?
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 08:41 AM
And most perplexingly, why does Han have a giant tree-trunk-sized BONER?!
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 09:01 AM
Wow, that makes no sense at all. I think Lauren took Samus's rocket arm and affixed it to the Major's arm, but he and Han were working together two seconds ago. Why are they dueling?
davechisholm
06-02-2009, 10:11 AM
watching the jam is like watching 35 michael scotts do improv theater.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 10:39 AM
watching the jam is like watching 35 michael scotts do improv theater.
Holy SHIT, that is so funny and SO TRUE.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 10:40 AM
watching the jam is like watching 35 michael scotts do improv theater.
Wow, reading it like that makes it ten times more entertaining.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 10:50 AM
I checked to see how much space I'm taking up so far and I have 154.7 MB out of 10,000 MB allowed (1.55%).
Heh, I have an 8 GB iPod nano, and I was just putting my podcasts on it to listen to for the day and saw that I have 625 MB free. That means my whole website would fit on the sliver of free space I have on my iPod, several times over.
I know random, but this is what I saw happening.
Lauren is helping Major by putting on Samus' canon arm. You say the arms part of a suit that needs an arm in it, well it's the future dude, so that covers that.
Lauren says she wants him all to herself. Foreshadowing? Possibly.
Han was never working with the Major, he was going there to kill the Major. All that happened so far is Han killed someone in the hallway and Major came out then Some DBz guy came out got chopped in half by Wutangsamurai and that same samurai chopped Major's arm off.
So Han stills wants to kill Major, hence the duel, and Lauren is maybe just maybe still mad at Major.
Roll with the punches.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 11:17 AM
All that happened so far is Han killed someone in the hallway and Major came out then Some DBz guy came out got chopped in half by Wutangsamurai and that same samurai chopped Major's arm off.
You're skipping over the part where they came to a mutual understanding and decided to work together to accomplish a goal that would serve both their purposes: finding the time machine and going back to stop the bomb dropping.
That happened in my panel.
..... lol I see. Just went back and read your panel. Well let's see where Baller takes this.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 11:37 AM
VIM22- Yeah, I whole-heartedly agree with Scott. More often than not, your panels always glaze over all previous logic established.
First was the Batman/Thor panel that i had to 'Roll with the punches' on. Han Solo hunting down The Major in a completely different facility was next, and now this one is skirting the lines of logic.
krikkit13
06-02-2009, 11:38 AM
Mebbe something like this?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/Anchorbird.jpg
I'm not completely there on the anchor tangents, but this is sorta what I was thinking.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 11:46 AM
Ooooh, I like that logo a lot. I like the old-timey feel of it. It looks like something you'd see on the side of a World War II fighter plane.
Just as an update of what's going on with the Wordpress stuff, I have somebody helping me out who's familiar with Wordpress, and he says if he and I can't get it worked out on my site, he'll host the comic on his own site.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 12:09 PM
I really dig the font that krikkit13 used on his. If I had a complaint it would be that it's a little too ship-wrecky/nautical, considering we don't know just how much of a pirate story the webcomic is. it's just the main character's name/nickname.
And here's my revision-
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colesla
06-02-2009, 12:49 PM
I was probably a bit harsh with my reaction. That was my immediate kneejerk. Maybe I'm just being stupid for trying to think this far ahead of what I'm going to do with my next panel when plan has to be changed with each new panel.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 01:05 PM
I was probably a bit harsh with my reaction. That was my immediate kneejerk. Maybe I'm just being stupid for trying to think this far ahead of what I'm going to do with my next panel when plan has to be changed with each new panel.
Eh, I wouldn't sweat it.
Frustration with the StripJam can come out of the mistaken assumption that people have a clue as to what they are doing to the bigger picture. The truth is they don't.
The bad comes in waves, and it will never stop bashing good ideas against the rocks. To persevere you must attempt to cram a rational, thought-out, and well-suited responsive storyline into each panel you draw, hoping the next person won't shit all over it, which they will.
The non-sequiturs are easy to write around.
It's the panels that throw storyline to the wind that suck.
Spidey
06-02-2009, 01:25 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/3586275513_6c6d42b649.jpg
I still like the first one here even though I get a Baywatch/Thunder in Paradise vibe.
and Krikkit's I really like too. It's simple and easy to read. I think it has more of a traditional tattoo design which calls back to how AB got his name.
Spidey
06-02-2009, 01:29 PM
Also, this is what developing individual plots in the StripJam has turned into:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/66/197462527_5156912337.jpg
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 01:32 PM
Yeah, man, it's getting real frustrating in the Strip Jam trying to set things up for cool stuff to happen, because then people come in and completely ignore or undo what you've set up. I think I might start focusing my energy on Anchorbird at this point and start sitting the Strip Jam out.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 02:06 PM
Everyone has an opportunity to make the StripJam better, with 'better' being entirely subjective.
People may like what's happening currently. Personally, I do not.
No one should worry about pleasing everyone.
Instead, they should FOCUS on making WORTHWHILE CONTRIBUTIONS to a
COMMUNITY PROJECT.
If people tried a little harder and stopped half-assing it, we could have something special here; something that breaks new ground.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 02:09 PM
It's like I've said before... there are two kinds of strip jam contributors. One is the kind that's trying to craft a great story with plot twists and interesting characters. This kind is easy to spot, they're the ones that use their panels to tie together plot threads and try to set up stuff to happen in the next panel.
The other kind is the kind that goes for the cheap laugh by cutting off a character's arm randomly or killing off a character with a kamehameha for no reason other than to piss the rest of us off. The second kind is why I'm going to start sitting the strip jam out, and they're also the kind that's not going to be invited into Anchorbird.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 02:20 PM
Btw, some reliable contributors are coming up soon in the StripJam.
Spidey, Taro Mochi, and SeanRM all have opportunities to save some plot threads coming up soon.
BBaller could be a surprise breath of fresh air.
The next 10 panels could pull this doomed vessel right back up into the clear.
Crazier things have happened.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 02:51 PM
Does anyone have a website with a few megabytes of space they wouldn't mind dedicating to Anchorbird? It's just not going to work on mine.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 03:08 PM
Sorry Scott. Not me.
Also, I just noticed that VIM22 also forgot the Major's SPACE BEES, which is unfortunate.
DON'T forget the Space Bees people! They still exist, even though they're small!
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 03:26 PM
Why the **** can't I post in this thread?
I'm trying to post details about how to do the Blogspot but it won't let me.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 03:28 PM
This is weird. I can post anything I want but when I try to describe how we're going to post to Blogspot it doesn't work.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 03:34 PM
Okay, let's try this again.
The blog is going to be anchorbird.blogspot.com. SeanRM and Wild&Uncouth are already allowed to post to it. To be able to post to it you need a Google account. If you have a Gmail address, that'll do it, but just send me the email address you have signed up with Google and I'll add you to the blog.
Now, when you finish a page you'll be responsible for hosting it on Photobucket or your own site. Do not upload your file to Blogspot, as it will make the picture into a tiny thumbnail. We want it full size. Take this code and edit it to include the URL to your image:
<img src="http://URL_GOES_HERE.jpg" width="800" />
That's it! Hit publish and we're good to go.
The blog looks awful right now but I'm going to be editing it to make it look more like we want.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 03:44 PM
I just checked it out, Scott.
Your page is cut vertically, with the sidebar overlapping the right side of the page.
Is this just my browser. I checked it out on Safari, then opened Firefox and no matter how wide I make my window, the sidebar doesn't budge and overlaps your art.
NickRocks
06-02-2009, 03:46 PM
I think this potential duel between the major (?) zombie old dude and Han solo is going to be awesome!
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 03:46 PM
I just checked it out, Scott.
Your page is cut vertically, with the sidebar overlapping the right side of the page.
Is this just my browser. I checked it out on Safari, then opened Firefox and no matter how wide I make my window, the sidebar doesn't budge and overlaps your art.
I know, I had to edit that to make the main body of the post wider. It should accommodate the entire page now. Check it out again, make sure it works.
Again, this blog is a work in progress. I'm still editing the HTML to make it look how we want.
Wild&Uncouth
06-02-2009, 03:50 PM
Nice! It's fixed!
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 04:38 PM
Added krikkit's logo so we can see what it looks like with a logo in there.
ScottEwen
06-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Spidey, we've got another person who wants in on this. Considering half the people who've signed up haven't gone yet, my fears about there being too many people are probably not warranted.
Anyway, this is another guy W&U and I went to the Kubert school with: Jesse Munoz. Here's his dA page, and if you have no objections, I'll set him up. http://jessemunoz.deviantart.com
Spidey
06-02-2009, 08:53 PM
Yeah, totally. I'm familiar with his work. I'm a big fan.
Spidey
06-02-2009, 10:32 PM
What gutter option looks best? Not just for this page, but in general?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Spyderizzle/panel-set-up.jpg
A. Traditional
B. Empty
C. Solid
Or should I approach differently depending on the page?
jessemunoz
06-03-2009, 12:01 AM
wow.
i just did a lot of reading to try and catch up here.
i remember a while back checking out the never-ending strip jam to see if i wanted to participate but i was so lost on what was going on that i decided i wouldn't t be able to really add anything.
i'm excited about this anchorbird web comic though. the pages i have read through look really good.
as far as web site stuff, i do that for a living so if there is anything i can help with let me know.
i have a TON of space on my website so if you guys want i can set up a little private sub-domain that the anchorbirders can access through an ftp to upload all the images or whatever. just a thought.
thanks! and i hope i can really contribute to the story!
Spidey
06-03-2009, 12:18 AM
Nice to have you Jesse. I'll be looking forward to your pages.
Spidey
06-03-2009, 01:10 AM
Anchorbird is in his socks right, Scott?
godwin
06-03-2009, 02:09 AM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/godwin_1965/martfinalcopy.jpg
godwin
06-03-2009, 02:23 AM
Spidey i think b works best because the gutters give the eyes a pause and the one panel works as an inset.
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 06:20 AM
Oh, the Comic Sans!!
godwin, I have sort of an irrational hatred of Comic Sans. It's a font that screams "amateur" when used in a comic book way. Can you change it to a different font? I used Spectre Verde, which is a free font off Blambot.com. The dialogue sort of butts up against the inside of the dialogue balloons too. If you could reduce the size of the font so that it has room inside the balloons that would be great. Once you do that you're okay to post it on the blog.
I just need your Gmail or Google account address, so I can add you to the blog.
Spidey
06-03-2009, 08:47 AM
I just need colors and lettering.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Spyderizzle/Webcomic-p4-inks.jpg
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 10:21 AM
I went through everyone's PJ profiles and added real names to the list of Contributors where I could find them. If I couldn't find a deviantart link or website, I linked to your profile on PJ.
So everyone please visit http://anchorbird.blogspot.com and find your name in the right-hand column. If it's your PJ handle instead of your real name, lemme know what your real name is so I can credit you. Also, if you have a website or dA page you'd like me to link, please let me know.
The following people still haven't given me their email addresses so I can give them permission to post on the blog:
Crimson Spider
Godwin
Taro Mochi
Turtle Boat
Edit: got Greenskyzero's.
SeanRM
06-03-2009, 10:31 AM
Scott, am I right to assume it's safe to start pimping out the site? Or should I hold off for a little bit more?
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 10:48 AM
Yeah, pimp away. I've posted links on my deviantART and a couple more sites I visit. I was sort of waiting until we got the logo and color scheme worked out, but if no one has any objections to the way it looks now, it's ready to go.
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 10:59 AM
Here's something kind of funny. I mentioned before that I based the first page off of a comic I drew a long time ago that I never finished. I scanned in the first page, click the link below if you wanna see it. Keep in mind I was a teenager at this point, circa 2001.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/ScottEwen/retro.jpg
I like the "Lost" style opening of a close-up on a eye opening, and the synchronicity of Sean and I both having a crab be the first thing our hero sees.
Wild&Uncouth
06-03-2009, 11:14 AM
Well, *sob* I certainly don't have any *sob* objections to the logo, if that's what you're *sob* asking.
*runs away crying*
Spidey
06-03-2009, 12:30 PM
Hey look at that. You originally did have two panels for the close-up.
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 12:47 PM
Hey, if anyone else here is on StumbleUpon, why not give Anchorbird a thumbs up?
Wild&Uncouth
06-03-2009, 03:45 PM
"That's what you get for leaving me! 2 times"
I'm sorry, as much as I don't like that panel, I love that quote.
I read it as "That's what you get for leaving me!"
Then, in a Shaggy-ish, R&B voice- "2 times"
You know, like when they say "1 time, 2 times, wasn't me" or some such nonsense in their songs.
It's almost like Shaggy buts in and adds 'two times' to the end of Lauren's statement, like all she ever really intended to say was "That's what you get for leaving me!" And then Shaggy is the chorus.
GooGod, I am bored, aren't I?
Dammit.
krikkit13
06-03-2009, 04:06 PM
Well, *sob* I certainly don't have any *sob* objections to the logo, if that's what you're *sob* asking.
*runs away crying*
Haha - sorry about that man. I'd give you some positive rep, but I already gave you some for having a member of the Wu-Tang cut Vegeta in half. That put a smile on my face like you wouldn't believe.
Taro Mochi
06-03-2009, 06:14 PM
finished my strip jam panel... hope it's not too jarring
I had the idea a loooong time ago before the major even
mentioned anything about a time machine... I was going
to have these two travel BACK TO THE FUTURE to set
things right but with the major & co. going back to the
past, it didn't seem right... though the image of the two
groups passing each other as they travel through time
I think would of been sweet :)
It was either this or a simple panel with zombies attacking
Han Solo and the Major saying "Oh ya! I forgot about the
zombies! CRAP! SAM! EAT THIS(throwing the vial with sam's soul)
BEFORE I HAVE TO SHOOT YOUR HEAD OFF!!!" And then
maybe a tiny Star King and MJ in the shadows, waiting for
an opening.... But I'll leave that stuff to someone else :P
Oh ya, Lauren is the girl from the first page right? the one that calls
Sammy on his giant phone?....I just assumed it was...
godwin
06-03-2009, 07:35 PM
Grat last panel Taro. Posted on Anchorbird, thought I folloed all steps but image came up as real small.
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 07:48 PM
The problem is you uploaded it to Blogspot rather than hosting it on Photobucket. Here are the instructions from the first page of the Anchorbird thread. Please go back and edit your post, or I can put it on my website and edit the post for you if you want.
To post your page, make sure the people in front of you have already posted their pages (so they're all in order), and then copy and paste this into the New Post textbox:
<img src="http://URL_GOES_HERE.jpg" width="800" />
You'll need to host the image on your own site, or a free hosting site like Photobucket or Imageshack. Then edit the code to include the URL of your image and hit "publish." Important: Do not upload your image to Blogspot, as it will create a tiny thumbnail. We want the full size image!
ScottEwen
06-03-2009, 07:57 PM
Also, the image needs to be 800 pixels wide, and right now yours is 648 pixels wide.
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