P.U.M.M.E.L. rogue fighters weigh in

[dfbovey]

Didn't make it in for the tournament cut off?

You can still participate in street fights in the mean time and then jump into the ranked monthly matches once the tournament is over!

Post a poll will be posted with your name, artwork and three options. Heavyweight, Middleweight and Lightweight. Whichever option gets the most votes, is your initial weight class. You'll have to start at the bottom of that division and work your way up the ranks!

Here are the weigh in results this far:

______Heavyweights__________________

Kris Diaz
Jujigatame
Manji
krikkit13

______Middleweights__________________

davechisholm
Ballpoint
Doomsmith
Jaguar Wong
VIM22
Shawny
slam
thordad
alfred183
Da-Dragonslayer
Turtle Boat

______Lightweights__________________

ArmstrongArts
Telekenetic Ketchup
Cabbage300
humblerthanyou
Sadman2000

[Telekinetic Ketchup]

I'm in but it's not right now right? so I'll wait with adding a piece till nearer to the deadline because I want to post the best representation I can.

[dfbovey]

I'm in but it's not right now right? so I'll wait with adding a piece till nearer to the deadline because I want to post the best representation I can.

Yeah, you have about 2 months. The tournaments have 4 rounds, each lasting 2 weeks.

You could always post something now and swap it out, or wait. Up to you.

You guys can also create fighter cards in the stat tracking thread. For weight class use "rogue" for now. And for ranking, use "unranked".

[KrisDiaz]

me!
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee46/KrisDiaz23/snakeeyez001.jpg

[Doomsmith]

I'll give it a go......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/Doomsmith/UnbreakableManFinal2.jpg



D2k9!

[jujigatame]

I'm in...I'll hold off on putting anything up until the deadline gets closer.

[cabbage300]

I'd like to be in, will the artwork posted on the weigh in poll be what we post here?

[killingyouguy]

I'm in. I will also post something later, when I get home for the summer.

[dfbovey]

I'd like to be in, will the artwork posted on the weigh in poll be what we post here?

that's correct

[cabbage300]

thx v much

[dfbovey]

Which of you guys would consider yourselves middleweights?

We have an opening in the first round of the tournament, 50%gray had to back out due to an upcoming move. If one of you wants to take his place on short notice, let me know. Otherwise, Johnny Blaque will get a 1st round bye.

[Doomsmith]

**** it I'll step up. This it probably exactly what I need to get my creative juices flowing again after such a long spell of uninspiration.....



D2k9!

[dfbovey]

Cool, thanks for stepping in!

Go ahead and send a PM to Johnny Blaque to get your topic for round 1.

[thepunisher]

Can be a join? I guess I would enter as a rogue seeing as I missed the initial seeding tourney deadline. That's cool. Just point to the correct thread to read up on what I need to do from here.

I saw this the other day and thought this was a great idea. I'm kind of pumped, cause there are a lot of really talented artists in this entire thing.

[KrisDiaz]

so outta curiosity when are you(dfbovey) gonna start polls for rogue weight classification....also,props to you on a great idea that is bringing lots of memebers together to challenge and improve themselves....my hats off to you

[Physicdesigns]

Hmm I think that maybe you could start the polling on wieght classification whenever some one announces themselves to want to be in pummel, that way, you wont have all the polls going at once, And if there is another drop out, you can pull a replacement from a similar weight class easily, just a thought. of course the ranking matches would have to wait, but least you got an idea whats goin on.

[dfbovey]

so outta curiosity when are you(dfbovey) gonna start polls for rogue weight classification....also,props to you on a great idea that is bringing lots of memebers together to challenge and improve themselves....my hats off to you

Yeah, I suppose it doesn't really matter when these things take place. If anyone is ready to go now, follow Kris's example.

When you set your poll, make sure you set it as a public poll and have it run for 3 days. That should be sufficient to determine your weight class.

[thepunisher]

Wait. Does being a rogue fighter mean that you are not in the normal ranking poll for the P.U.M.m.E.L. league?

Or is this a secondary poll for all those who missed the initial sign up and are trying to get involved and ranked so that they can then be integrated into the regular rankings (albeit, near the bottom since we got in on it late) or am I confused somehow?

[dfbovey]

Rogues are just people who didn't register in time for the tournament and want to participate when the tournament is over.

In order to do that, you need to be placed in a weight class. If you want to, follow Kris Diaz's lead, choose a piece of work that best represents what you do. Post it in a voting thread in the main arena section with 3 options. Lightweight, Middleweight and Heavyweight. Based on whatever has the most votes, you will be placed at the bottom of that class once the monthly matches start (after the tournament).

If you want to participate in street fights to pass the time, it's encouraged. Street fights count towards your win-loss record. Let's say both your and Kris Diaz get voted into the same class. Whoever has the best record would start off with a higher ranking.

[thepunisher]

gotcha. That makes sense.

Now to find a piece to post...

[shawny]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3507787950_d966302736_b.jpg
first image post - hopefully it works.

[Manji]

I'll join in. Sounds fun.

My weight class poll. (http://penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93535) Ends in 3 days. Thanks

[dfbovey]

Manji and Kris Diaz,

I welcome you both to the Heavyweight division!

[Manji]

Coolness. So what now we just start challenging people and trying to build up a win loss record until we are pulled into the tourney? Just want to make sure I have that right.

[dfbovey]

Coolness. So what now we just start challenging people and trying to build up a win loss record until we are pulled into the tourney? Just want to make sure I have that right.

Yeah, you can start taking part in street fights to build up your record. You'll start at the bottom of the division but your win loss record will be a tie breaker initially against any other newcomers to the division. Higher rank has the advantage of picking the subject in ranked matches.

[cabbage300]

OK, i kno this has been explained a gazillion of times but i just want to make sure i got it: if i didn't make the seeding thingy, i can post a piece of art that represents me with a poll for what division i would be in, then, at the end of the tournament i will be placed in the division that had the most votes. in the mean time i will be a "rogue" and can participate in street battles.

correct?

btw as a rogue do you need to set up one of brecks spreadsheet things?

cheers

[dfbovey]

OK, i kno this has been explained a gazillion of times but i just want to make sure i got it: if i didn't make the seeding thingy, i can post a piece of art that represents me with a poll for what division i would be in, then, at the end of the tournament i will be placed in the division that had the most votes. in the mean time i will be a "rogue" and can participate in street battles.

correct?

btw as a rogue do you need to set up one of brecks spreadsheet things?

cheers

Yes and Yes.

Whenever anyone in this thread is ready, you can start your "weigh in" poll. I know some people wanted to wait to put up a more recent piece. But there is no need to wait if you're ready.

[dfbovey]

Also, if the outcome of your poll starts to become obvious, then as "Commissioner" I'll go ahead and move it to the archives and announce your weightclass in this thread.

Just want to keep the voting area as clear as possible with so many matches going on right now.

[Manji]

Cool thanks Bovey. And I love the participation that is going on with this. I have already been challenged. :D People are hungry. lol

[KrisDiaz]

do i sense a rematch on the horizon to redeem ourselves for our slacking performance last time..........

[Manji]

do i sense a rematch on the horizon to redeem ourselves for our slacking performance last time..........

Sure man hit me up in a couple weeks. ;)

[KrisDiaz]

roger that....i got a few pics to finish first

[spidey976]

Cool thanks Bovey. And I love the participation that is going on with this. I have already been challenged. :D People are hungry. lol

I am totally amazed by the turn out ... and there are SO many high quality pics. Totally awesome.

[dfbovey]

TK and Cabbage300

Welcome to the Lightweight division!

Dave, you're poll is still up in the air.

[dfbovey]

jujigatame, welcome to the Heavyweight division!

[Breck]

For TK and cabbage, I'm guessing their ranks are first come first serve, so TK comes in one rank above cabbage? Also, do the ranks need to be adjusted to compensate for the people who are no longer in the league? So all of the lightweights need to move up a rank and everyone that was below Morgan needs to move up a rank?

[dfbovey]

For TK and cabbage, I'm guessing their ranks are first come first serve, so TK comes in one rank above cabbage? Also, do the ranks need to be adjusted to compensate for the people who are no longer in the league? So all of the lightweights need to move up a rank and everyone that was below Morgan needs to move up a rank?

For TK and cabbage, if their records are the same in street fights then it's first come first serve.

Anyone below Morgan in the heavyweight division will move up in rank, but nobody in the middleweight division will move up to heavyweight because of it. It just effects the ranks within that division.

[Steve F]

The thing I don't get about the rogue stuff is that they move in INTO a class. Let's say someone started out light or middle and worked their way up, the rogue gets popped in above them off of no work? I don't think that's fair.

[spidey976]

Steve ... honestly ... I think the intent is pretty simply to avoid some GREAT talent staying out of PUMMEL because they are getting in late and don't want to spend 5 years working their way up to the proper weight class. With out the rogues ... just counting the original 48 guys in this ... an artist like say Caanan would have to go through 38 separate DO to get from the bottom of the light weight division to the BOTTOM of the heavy weight division and another 16 to get to the top of the heavy weights. That is a total of 54 matches = 54 months ... so 4.5 YEARS!!!!

I know it doesn't seem fair really ... but if we want some of the best talent we have to come into this ... and WANT to be part of it .... we need to have some logical way for them to get in without frustration. Honestly ... most of the guys who have been voted into the heavyweight division would just march right up through the lightweights and it would get frustrating for us ... think about KNOWING you were most likely going to lose because the guy you are going up against is a professional or professional leve talent. I personally am glad I have time to hone my craft and get better before I have to go head to head against someone like Keith for a "ranking" match.

[dfbovey]

The thing I don't get about the rogue stuff is that they move in INTO a class. Let's say someone started out light or middle and worked their way up, the rogue gets popped in above them off of no work? I don't think that's fair.

They are basically getting the same treatment as anyone else who entered. There was a poll to start off the seedings before the tournament began and people were placed in weight classes accordingly. The "weigh ins" for rogue fighters serve the same purpose.

To me, it wouldn't make any sense, nor would it be fun to watch someone like Manji or Jugi start off as lightweights. It would be a massacre and I don't see any benefit in it.

[Steve F]

Quick responses. Both are definitely true. If I think about it, that's kind of the case in any tournament, someone could be innately better than you and just move right in. Spidey976 is right about moving up to hone your craft. Just feel bad for the upper middleweights who get people dropped in above them. How hard is it to switch weight classes?

[Telekinetic Ketchup]

To me, it wouldn't make any sense, nor would it be fun to watch someone like Manji or Jugi start off as lightweights. It would be a massacre and I don't see any benefit in it.

From Experience I can say the massacre was pretty fun got to push myself a little. But I do agree that obvious heavy weights should go into the heavy devision.

[dfbovey]

How hard is it to switch weight classes?

As the rules stand now, you've got to become champion of your current class and defend that title 3 times to move into the next class.

[makoi]

They are basically getting the same treatment as anyone else who entered. There was a poll to start off the seedings before the tournament began and people were placed in weight classes accordingly. The weigh ins serve the same purpose.

To me, it wouldn't make any sense, nor would it be fun to watch someone like Manji or Jugi start off as lightweights. It would be a massacre and I don't see any benefit in it.

Our initial voting system limited voters to only 10 votes in a field of 48. There were some that ended up in middleweight just because there wasn't enough votes to include them in people's "top ten." It didn't mean that people thought they weren't considered a "heavyweight." The voting for rogue fighters is completely different. Your judging just that person's artwork and not against 13 or so other peices that you think are on the same level. So I could see why someone who is ranked #1 Middleweight could think it is unfair that someone could enter the heavyweight division under different voting scrutiny.

[dfbovey]

It's not the exact same process, but I feel that this is the best possible way to move forward.

[spidey976]

You know though ... I will say this ... I do spend time looking at the top and bottom members of the weight classes to see the different skill levels so that I can make a fair judgement of the level ... at least if there is ANY doubt in my mind. Guys like Manji ... ummm to be honest ... I voted heavyweight before I even saw his pic ... lol ... oppss.

This system will work for now. Maybe if we find A LOT more guys buy in to this over short periods of time ... we could have another large "seeding" poll. Say every two months or so.

[makoi]

There are definitely guys who are no-brainers about where they belong.

[Breck]

To me, weight class changes should be determined by a poll. If someone feels they are ready to move up a class, they should just post a poll. Then they get placed into the bottom of that class and have to work their way up the ranks. Some people are going to increase the quality of their art way faster than they will be able to work up a weight class, become a champion, defend it 3 times, etc. You could end up with the same situation where it's a massacre and you just have to sit and watch every month for the obvious outcome.

Also, I don't see how anyone would move down a class. I've never seen someone become a worse artist. Maybe if they take a 5 year break from drawing or something, but that's a pretty unlikely situation.

[Steve F]

Breck, that makes sense. Then it becomes fair again because if a rogue can enter a class with just a poll, so can any other person who wants to try their luck with the boards and post a poll for their weight.

[spidey976]

But that gets rid of the competition aspect of the ENTIRE league. Honestly ... when I posted my seeding pic I posted a pic I thought was good enough to MAYBE be a middle weight ... but it was also a piece I thought I could match with a 10 day deadline in the tournament. Though I think I will be able to progress beyond it through the coming weeks.

I think the competition is an important part of the entire process ... and I do think it is fair enough so far ... if you want to up your rep ... challenge some middle weights ... and maybe down the road you will get a chance in a "fans choice" brawl to move up.

[Physicdesigns]

i can see why people may think rougues are getting in above, or have the potential too, but i also think it makes sense to move foward in this direction from this point.

that said moving up does seem like it may be slow, I dont know if this is official rules, but maybe you should have the incumbent in a position have to defend their titles a minimum of once a month, but also more if they are challenged, and want the fight, that way it isnt as long to defend your title 3 times. or at least you have the possiblity of going up a little faster. of course if the guy ahead of you doesnt feel like it, you ll just have to wait. Using the poll to detemine the rank after the fact, kind of defeats the purpose of battling on a month to month basis.

[Archerion]

I have to agree we all got polled against each other to get seeded. Now we having a tournament to get a champion in each bracket. I would see the main goal of it all its be the heavyweight champion. I dont think its right for the ppl that been in it watching everyone just put a pic up and have it voted on then poof there in that bracket. I thought after the tourney was done new ppl had to work there way up from the bottom.

[Physicdesigns]

well, while i thought youd have to work your way up from the bottom, i think it may be a bit crazy to have to go 1 month at a time to the top if your like obviously way higher, also i figure it may be annoying for say a light weight to get knocked down by two ranks on thier way to the top, because some one who is obviously in a higher class needed to get up. for example if you worked to get a no 2 to the champ position in middleweight, and then you had to fight jim lee and got knocked down to number 4 thats a pretty big price to pay for someone who really everyone knows is on another league,

the problem becomes a couple of people who it may seem are in the wrong class, but realistically, before we had the initial poll, we had no idea what a light, heavy, or middleweight meant. so we could really have voted light middle or heavy till we saw who was at the tops and the bottoms of classes.

Overall in time i think the rankings will sort themselves out, people will either win or lose. only thing is it may take awhile. honesly though i can only think of acouple people who might be in the wrong class imo, andthey are usually at the top or bottom of the class, so its open to interpetation.

[Archerion]

I dont think they should go to the light weight but there are some ppl in the middle weight that prob can go toe to to with some of the ppl in the heavyweight and dont forget about the upsets.

[Manji]

I see your points and I'm sorry if I have ruffled feathers. I literally missed the original entry 2 days after the fact and was pissed that I missed it. I then saw the rogue entry thing and decided to drop in. I'm not heading up the tourney so I'm just following rules like everyone else.

I also want it to be known that I don't mind starting from the bottom and hopefully moving up in any weight class. I'm fine with it either way.

But also we gotta remember organizing something like this isn't the easiest thing in the world and Bovey and Breck have both done kickass jobs organizing it. I ran the championship series in 2008 a couple months in because Bovey had to give up running it. And let me tell you that was a lot ot keep up with but compared to getting this together it was a cakewalk.

Anyway don't think I'm upset or anything just wanted to let everyone know I'm good with whatever and the tourney won't be perfect, especially the first time around. ;)

[jujigatame]

I see your points and I'm sorry if I have ruffled feathers. I literally missed the original entry 2 days after the fact and was pissed that I missed it. I then saw the rogue entry thing and decided to drop in. I'm not heading up the tourney so I'm just following rules like everyone else.

I also want it to be known that I don't mind starting from the bottom and hopefully moving up in any weight class. I'm fine with it either way.

Ditto for me on both points...I missed the initial & last minute PUMMEL signup and jumped in when the rogue league started.
And I don't really mind where I end up starting, as well...I wouldn't feel slighted or anything like that.

[KrisDiaz]

in the tournament part of this....do you get points for what place you land in? like 20pts for 1st,18 for 2nd and so on.........that way people would go up or down in their weight class, maybe the monthly tornament part of it would have the top 16 of each weight class

[Breck]

Getting placed into a weight class doesn't eliminate the competitive aspect. The competitive aspect is working up the class you are appropriate for. People should be placed into whatever class that will give them the best competition. If someone comes in as a lightweight, it would take them over a year to move up to the next weight class, even longer if the class ends up growing. What if their art evolved to middleweight or even heavyweight caliber within 6 months? We would just sit here watching them obliterate their opponents month after month. It's not fair to them or their opponents.

Ultimately, I don't think this linear progression is really going to be an accurate measure of skill relative to other artists and it'll probably make people feel like they are fighting an uphill battle. We'll come up with something I'm sure. It's not that big an issue just yet.

We could always do away with classes and ranks, and just have a rating system like chess. It's more accurate, but I think it detracts from the fighting spirit of the league.

[spidey976]

Well ... I know that the intial league filled up ... and a lot of people got caught off guard ... the polls were suppose to go up on the April 20th or the 25th ... and it went up on the 16th because of the quick fill up. Manji and several others would have been in ... and should have been in that first poll.

I think Dave has some stuff planned for guys to advance a little faster along the way ... but for right now I have to say this ....

Thanks Dave and Breck for running this ... it is a crazy undertaking ... and the MOST EXCITING thing I have seen here since I joined two years ago. The level of work that is coming out of this tournament and he street fights is amazing ... and I am ALWAYS checking to see what new threads are coming up. So thanks again.

Guys I think this is still a bit of a work in progress ... lets get the growing pains out of the way ... and trust Dave to help us through this ... this is awesome.

[dfbovey]

humblerthanyou has been placed in the lightweight division.

[dfbovey]

Sorry I missed some of this discussion.

As for how you move up, It's not going to be as slow as you think. And if the set up seems like it's going to be problematic I'll revisit it if that's the case.

The basic format is when you win, you move up a spot and when you lose, you move down two. There will be constant movement within each division just based on that alone.

But I've also had special events in mind from the outset.

There will be occasional wild card events that will also shuffle the rankings. These will take place quarterly. I'm debating a few things on this front. Including top five middleweights vs. bottom five heavyweights. Top five lightweights vs bottom five middleweights. If you're a middleweight and beat a heavyweight in your wildcard match, you can move into the heavyweight division, etc.

I was also thinking about random quarterly position swapping matches. Names drawn from a hat. Could be #3 vs. #11 could mean that #11 vaults up to #3 if they can pull off a win. But I'm not sold on that idea. I like the Mike Tyson's punchout way of working yourself up the ranks in each division.

As far as how you were placed in this thing. I really don't think there was a better way we could have done this. The tools we have at our disposal on this forum are limited. And if you don't like your placement you will have several opportunities to move up if you perform well.

[davechisholm]

all i know is that i like to draw stuff.
drawing is not sport, but competition is fun.
if you are drawing solely to climb the rankings in a competition, then i feel bad for you.
not that anybody is. just saying.

[dfbovey]

Well, it's a game.

If climbing the ranks is motivation for people to draw and improve their craft, then it's not a bad thing.

[davechisholm]

Well, it's a game.

If climbing the ranks is motivation for people to draw and improve their craft, then it's not a bad thing.

indeed....

[Telekinetic Ketchup]

Drawrin is FUN :D

[spidey976]

yes it is ... and PUMMEL is turning out some darn fine work.

[chungking2399]

Is it to late to sign up for this

[dfbovey]

Anyone can sign up at anytime.

[VicM]

Posted up my weigh in poll. Look forward to seeing where I end up.

[Breck]

I have done away with the Rogues spreadsheet. There's really no need for it. The first thing you should do when you enter the league is post a weigh-in poll. Once your class is determined, create your spreadsheet and make your post in the Stats and Records thread. To determine your rank, I guess you'll need to get with Dave.

In summary, your weight class must be posted in the stats and records thread AND your rank must be entered into your spreadsheet in order for your stats to show on the main spreadsheet.

If you have done both of those things and you still do not see your stats on the tracking site, then PM me and let me know you have set everything up.

[dfbovey]

Hey Breck, I'm not sure how the spread sheet is set up, but will I be able to manually rank people once the tournament is over?

For example, here's a break down of how the new heavyweight rankings will look once the tournament is over (for the bottom portion of the heavyweight division based on win loss records and how people finished in the tourney):

9 - Dr. Baltar
10- Plog
11- Teratophile
12- ScottEwen
13- Physicdesigns
14- G12affics
15- Dri
16- Manji
17- Jugigatame
18- Kris Diaz

The remaining top 8 are still yet to be determined by how people finish in the tournament. I'll have 5-8 once this round is over.

[Breck]

I was just about to ask you about that. Currently, each person is responsible for entering their rank into their personal spreadsheet and that's how the main spreadsheets track them. However, I can change it so you can manually enter each person's rank instead of leaving it up to the individual. Is that how you want to do it?

[dfbovey]

I'm not really sure how I want it or what's possible. heheh...

There are a lot of tie breakers involved so it might be best to at least be able to edit it.

[Breck]

Well it would have to be one or the other. Either each person's rank would be pulled from their personal spreadsheet or all ranks would need to be manually changed by an admin. Unfortunately, there's no way to do both.

[dfbovey]

Well, it seems like the best way to do it would be for me to assign the ranks. It's more work but I can see a lot of frustration coordinating everyone to have the correct ranks. So I might as well do it myself.

[Breck]

OK, I'll adjust it when I get some free time.

[dfbovey]

I might be looking for commissioners for each weight class to help me manage the load. 2 people who'd also have access to the master spreadsheets to help edit the rankings each month.

[Manji]

I might be looking for commissioners for each weight class to help me manage the load. 2 people who'd also have access to the master spreadsheets to help edit the rankings each month.

I know you didn't ask for nominations...but I nominate Spidey976 as a commissioner.

[KrisDiaz]

so should i put a rank-18 on my spreadsheet now or wait to do it at some point? also whats the rule on k.o.....i forgot where i had seen it

[spidey976]

I know you didn't ask for nominations...but I nominate Spidey976 as a commissioner.

Dude ... I was THINKING about it for sure ... you know I can help out if need be ... or at least try my best ... there may be a few times that I am a little wayward ... aka vacations and work (darn teaching... how I DO love it though) ... but I will let you know for sure LONG before that becomes an issues.

P.S. Manji ... what EVER made you think of me ... lol

[dfbovey]

so should i put a rank-18 on my spreadsheet now or wait to do it at some point? also whats the rule on k.o.....i forgot where i had seen it

If you keep your stats up to date, I'll take care of the rankings each month.

Knockouts are wins by 15 votes or more.

[dfbovey]

Dude ... I was THINKING about it for sure ... you know I can help out if need be ... or at least try my best ... there may be a few times that I am a little wayward ... aka vacations and work (darn teaching... how I DO love it though) ... but I will let you know for sure LONG before that becomes an issues.

P.S. Manji ... what EVER made you think of me ... lol

Cool, I'll probably try to get you access to the spreadsheets so you could manage the Lightweight division. I'll do the initial rankings after the tournament is over, and all you would really need to do is update the rankings once a month as the ranked matches occur.

[dfbovey]

Sometime today I'll update the first post of the thread with the all weigh in results. For now, here's the latest!

krikkit13 – heavy
Ballpoint – middle
Jaguar Wong – middle
VIM22 – middle
Shawny - middle
ArmstrongArts – Light

[dfbovey]

First post has been edited to show results for all the weigh ins I've tallied as final. I'll double check the archives just to make sure I didn't miss anything. If you see anything I missed, let me know.

All you guys need to start a spreadsheet if you haven't already.

[Jaguar Wong]

Awesome. I have my spreadsheet here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...iKkjgReQ&hl=en

But I don't know if I need to do anything special to grant access to you guys. Also, I put my entry into the Stats thread, but I don't know what my rank is yet. How do we know what that is?

[dfbovey]

I'll be manually assigning ranks after the tournament. All rogues start at the bottom of the division, with the better win/loss records getting the higher rank.

[dfbovey]

slam and thordad, welcome to the middleweights!

[thordad]

Many Thanks , Dfbovey and everyone who voted. This is the most fun Ive had in a long time ( Street fights , what a great concept :) )

[dfbovey]

alfred183 is now a middleweight!

[dfbovey]

I've updated the first post to show new results.

I'd also like to remind everyone to create a google stat sheet if you haven't already. The tournament is almost over and without a spreadsheet you won't be able to participate in the ranked matches which start July 1st.

[dfbovey]

Initial post updated to show Turtle Boat's results.

[Da-Dragonslayer]

Count me in on this one. I am already ranked do I have to post a new image to enter?

[cold-blooded-angel]

I'm sorry. can a mod edit the length of the weigh in poll I posted, I didn't read this thread till after and forgot to put a time limit on it.

also this thread has answered lots of the questions I had. thanks guys.

[dfbovey]

Latest batch of weigh in results:


Iwannabiscut = Lightweight
eric_blitz = Lightweight
Yomark = Lightweight
Random Hero 7 = Lightweight
Kob13 = Lightweight

Latino Machete = Middleweight
Alexcat321 = Middleweight
DemonX01 = Middleweight
ThreeEyesWorm = Middleweight
Solace = Middleweight

Dog Soldier = Heavyweight

[artist_x]

i had this posted in the general forum, then i found this area so i'm carrying over. mostly people were leaning towards me being a middle weight(80%) and i'm fine with that... for now.

most recent, (wip about 75% done)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/Jwichmann/concepts/Untitled-4.jpg

from august:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/Jwichmann/comics/Cheesecake-Sara-web.jpg

july:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/Jwichmann/comics/Gambit_Commission__WIP.jpg

[Breck]

OK, if I want to re-join pummel do I need to weigh-in again or do I join at the bottom of my previous weight class?

[willesee]

super fluffy light-wieght
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad211/willesee/th_raphink.jpg (http://s937.photobucket.com/albums/ad211/willesee/?action=view&current=raphink.jpg)

[dfbovey]

Here's a listing of new weigh ins that we have so far for the December ranked matches:

Heavy
Ra Havok
Beastie

Middle
endeserben
Lyzander
eyedrawthings
ArtistX
bholliday
Lost Spartan
Walkonwater77
Nachochip

Light
Wornouthoodie
Willesee
Nickguy
Nightfingers

[dfbovey]

I'll state it here too... The new light-heavyweight division will be in place for January. All new weigh in threads must now include this 4th option.

[What?]

Still getting used to the forum!

I love random street fights. <333

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/BadGod/NinaoftheMista.jpg

[JC Immortal]

This is funny to see how PUMMEL started out! and look where we are today!