FUSION JAM: Multiverse

[Ugga Bugga]

Okay. Spidey vs. Joker vs. Arcade, all art assignments have been done, and we are in the procedure of finishing off the artwork. I expect we should be in a position to publish shortly

In the Wolverine vs. Alien jam, I have given the go ahead to begin production on that, and given it an April 30 drop dead date.

That means that we are in a position to move forward to develop a concept for the following jam, which will begin production on April 30, or earlier, if Wolvie vs Alien comes in earlier.

I would like to do things in this order.

1. Sign up a writer to write the jam
2. Sign up an editor to edit them
3. Discuss and Debate the topic of the jam
4. Set a deadline for the completion of a first draft of the script
5. Provide script feedback
6. Greenlight Script
7. Prepare character turnarounds
8. Prepare location designs
9. Wait until all art positions have been assigned for all pages on the Wolvie vs. Alien Jam
10. Begin production, and set a 3 month production deadline.

I will be doing things on a first come first served basis for the writer and editor, so the sign up is now open.

Is anyone interested in writing or editing the next jam?

Please hold off on the topic discussions until this has been assigned.

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updates: most up to date script (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showpost.php?p=993918&postcount=93)

[malachimanson]

Well my plate is gonna be full with doing a full page of the wolverine project. No matter what page I end up with I want to pencil, ink and color it.

With that said I'll be more then happy to be the editor. When I'm not hardcore drilling my ass on getting the page perfect on the wva i can throw in my hat to help out.

Now onto ideas for the Project.

We have Joker, Arcade, Spiderman (Like every incarnation of him), Johnny Storm, Wolverine and a freaking Alien in two projects. So personally I'd like to leave all those characters alone and crossed off.

Anther crossover vs Idea I had today is Darkseid vs Apocalypse. Darkseid invades Marvel maybe tossing superman's body or whoevers to the ground. Declares this world his but Apocalypse comes in and throws down.

[Ugga Bugga]

hang on for a minute malachimanson.

I am prepared to sign you up as editor.

I will turn it over to you to run.

The guidelines are going to be

1. 8 pages maximum for the script
2. No production starts until the go-ahead is given from me, that the previous jams have no creative needs.
3. Once we start production, there will be a 3 month drop dead date given.
4. If I feel that the jam is not moving forward without any explanation, I will pull the plug on it.

Sorry to be tough about it, but previous experience needs to be avoided.

[malachimanson]

Dude thats not tough thats called work =/. Rules are fine and I actually like it. If the project is dead it should be laid to rest. I'm all for this.

[Ugga Bugga]

Okay, good luck.

The object of the exercise is to produce a finished product. How you get there is really of no concern to me.

Some unsolicited advice
a) pick a topic that has lots of people excited about it. if you pick a pet project, it won't get done. You should get a sense from the feedback, if you will be able to
b) set firm deadlines with consequences for failing to meet them
c) make sure the content meets with the guidelines for the PJ site.

It's your show, now get a writer, and pick a topic.

[killingyouguy]

I will write it once we come up with a solid concept.

[Ugga Bugga]

okay great, we have our editor, and our writer.

I am going to turn things over to malachimanson now.

Any input from here on in from me is in my capacity as a community member.

[Ugga Bugga]

Something Lost related might be fun

[Telekinetic Ketchup]

James Bond Vs Jack sparrow Vs the boss in CSI Miami


....GO!

[airbrushartist]

Something Lost related might be fun

Never watched LOST. What characters would you put in that scenario?

[airbrushartist]

How about a Watchmen timeline story? Take a look through the books and see if there is a pocket of empty time we can inject a story into. Seems they did that in the movie. Maybe dealing with Rorschach after some run in with a few idiots while he was out of costume.I'm sure some creative type can come up with something.

[Ugga Bugga]

James Bond Vs Jack sparrow Vs the boss in CSI Miami


....GO!

we already did a james bond jam. I will dig up the link.

[malachimanson]

I like the Idea of doing something with Rorschach.

[J. Alexopoulos]

How about Batman in the Savage Land?

[malachimanson]

Batman vs Sauron (The mutant) In the savage land.

[Bathill8]

Rorshach gets teleported to Lost Island! I call dibs on a page that has Jorge Garcia in it!!!! :D

[airbrushartist]

Compared to comics and their wild stories, tv melodrama, is like the morning Disney lineup. Not worth combining.
Batman is tired, Watchmen has never been explored outside of the original series.
How about a Werewolf by Night short? Or even a Hulk story? Let's redo a little of World War Hulk. I confess I've not read any of the books as I stopped buying comics many many years ago. I only know what i read online.

[blamito]

Video games and Hellboy always seem to get good turnouts for draw-offs. I'm sure there are others, just can't think of anything at the moment. sci-fi, starwars maybe, I don't know. Just throwing out some idea that people might be interested in. I think we can do more than X Vs. X though.

[J. Alexopoulos]

I think we can do more than X Vs. X though.
For example?

[malachimanson]

we could do as Justice said a werewolf story. But I don't want a bitch who whines about killing. I want a blood thrusty killer. Who murders everyone in his wake.

[Ugga Bugga]

in my experience non high profile character jams fizzle.

that is why so many are x vs x they work as jams.

not saying its the only way. just saying it has worked best in the past

[Morganza]

I like the cross-over jams, those interest me, I think the artists should have input into the story writing or the plot.

I think I may take a crack at a page, partly because I need the practice and I also want it to be fun for me to draw.

[killingyouguy]

I think the cross over jams work best because it gets people interested and limits the amount of stuff the artists need to draw to a handful of characters.

I like the idea of doing something Watchmen related. Obviously because of the movie and just because I'm a giddy fanboy. Rorschach in the Savage Land might be fun. Just because he'd be so out of his element. Especially if the Savage Land (and maybe Magneto???) were just written as old school Marvel as possible.

[malachimanson]

so Rorschach vs Magneto? or would you guys like him vs just the elements.

[gadgetwk]

i would be down for a werewolf story. just a few pages of savage murderous brutality.

rorschach is cool too, i'm not totally into the crossover thing though. especially not rorschach in the savage land.

how about werewolf vs rorscach?

[Ugga Bugga]

one thing is certain. We will never please them all.

Things need not be vs.

We did a James Bond Jam, and a Tick Jam. Both went very well.

[blamito]

For example?

Well, I know the shorter stories will probably work best as X vs.X, as there can be conflict that can be made quickly and that makes sense.

I guess I was thinking of something more than X character meets X character they fight, or fight some one else. Maybe like an adventure(a short, 8 page one of course) or like a puzzle/riddle type of story. Like, Hellboy involved in something like the end of Indiana Jones and the last crusade where he's got to figure out riddles and booby traps. Batman would work with this too probably.

Anyways though, it's not really my deal. Just tossing out some ideas. I do hope to get involve in some of the art work for some of the new ones though. :)

[Ugga Bugga]

malachimanson, at some point, you will need to make an executive decision on the topic. My suggestion is to do it in conjunction with killingyouguy.

[malachimanson]

I was planning on that on Friday let a few days of discussion go and then pm Kill and discuss it.

[killingyouguy]

I'm a huge Werewolf by Night fan, and I actually had an idea for a WbN/Ghostrider story, if that peaks anyone's interest. Though the idea could surely work with a different secondary character.

[Ugga Bugga]

I was planning on that on Friday let a few days of discussion go and then pm Kill and discuss it.

good plan..........

[Ugga Bugga]

I'm a huge Werewolf by Night fan, and I actually had an idea for a WbN/Ghostrider story, if that peaks anyone's interest. Though the idea could surely work with a different secondary character.

Years ago, there was a Samurai Ghost Rider story. I don't think it ever finished.

[malachimanson]

Also remember you don't need to have a straight finish. It could always be a cliff hanger. In order for it to work though. It would have to be a damn good story that makes you want more but your just not getting the finish.

[killingyouguy]

This is what I have written for the ghost rider/werewolf thing:

PAGE ONE

Int. An old smoky bar. We’re in the middle of back country here. The patrons are a combination of red necks, teenagers, and bikers. A real friendly bunch. At the bar is a man with shaggy hair, wearing a leather jacket. We push in on a close up as he takes a swig of a beer and looks glaringly at a man taking shots by himself in a corner. Jacob gets up from his seat and walks over to him standing behind him.

CAPTION:
My name is Jacob Russell.
And I have a problem.
No. Not a drinking problem.
There’s a man in the corner of this bar. He’s killed seven people in the past two weeks. One of them a teenage girl I used to know. I’ve finally caught up to him.

RUSSELL: Lucas Donnegan?

PAGE TWO

Jake stands behind the man. He begins to recite a list of names.

DONNEGAN: Who wants to know?

RUSSELL: Rhonda Pynchon.

Donnegan takes a shot, glaring.

DONNEGAN: Who’s that?

RUSSELL: Rhonda Pynchon. Mike Wein. Bill Moench. Lindsay Walker. Kyle—

DONNEGAN: What’s with the ****ing roll call?

RUSSELL: You killed them.

Donnegan pulls a switchblade and swings it at Russell, who blocks his wrist. Donnegan punches Russell who sprawls back, crashing into several barstools. Donnegan attempts to escape through the front door, which is set up with a large window to one side, as many diners or restaurants are. Russell leaps after him, hitting him and crashing through the window.


CAPTIONS:
This man is vile.
This man is despicable.
This man will soon be dead.
But he is not my problem. My problem is something far worse.

PAGE THREE

Donnegan’s body lies twisted on the floor, sprinkled with broken glass. He moans. Above him stands the beastly, hairy figure of the Werewolf by Night, slobber dripping from snarling jaws.

CAPTIONS:
My problem is what is inside me. What claws its way out when I let it. My problem is now his problem.

Donnegan screams.

DONNEGAN: Another freak?

CAPTION: Yeah, there you go. Insult the werewolf. Good plan.

Donnegan sticks the knife into Russell’s leg and the beast howls in pain.

CAPTION: ****! Silver. Should have seen that one coming.

The wolf rips out the knife as Donnegan goes tearing off into the woods.

PAGE FOUR:

The wolf starts bounding after him, its tongue sickly dangling from its mouth.

CAPTION: Supp-supp-suppertime, very best time of—URK!

Chains wrap around Russell and slam him to the dirt. He snarls attempting to free himself, but they are snug.

GHOSTRIDER: (OP) Nice doggy.

We see Ghostrider standing above him, chains exuding forth like spider-webs.

The wolf snarls. But this demon is familiar. We see the Rider’s reflection in his eye – which slowly morphs into a human’s.

Jake looks up a Ghost Rider.

RUSSELL: Danny?

On Ghost Rider.

RUSSELL: J-Johnny? I thought you died.

Ghost Rider sucks his chains back, they loop around his body like coiled serpents.

GHOST RIDER: Was.

RUSSELL: Why’d you stop me? That guy’s killed nine people. All--

GHOST RIDER: All Werewolves. I know.

RUSSELL: Then—

GHOST RIDER: I need something from him.

RUSSELL: Take it from his corpse!

GHOST RIDER: Doesn’t work that way, Jake.

RUSSELL: Like hell!

Russell wolfs out (to borrow a horrible phrase) and leaps at Ghost Rider. They tussle briefly until Johnny throws him at a tree which he crashes into.

Johnny shoots chains which wrap around Jake. He is strapped to the tree howling.

JOHNNY: He’s getting away, you prick.

Johnny flings chains which wrap around a motorcycle outside of the bar and it transforms into Johnny’s hellfire bike. He leaps on it and goes screaming through the trees until he catches up with fleeing man. Johnny whips his chains at him, which wrap around him and drag him to the ground.

Meanwhile, the werewolf struggles against and breaks free of the slowly weakening chains. He bounds after Ghostrider.

The wolf grinds to a halt when it finds ghost rider staring down the man, his eyes alost burning. It’s the penance stare, forcing him to relive all of his worst atrocities. Everything flashed through his mind, from the deaths he caused to the theft of a small jewel several weeks ago which bonded to him. His mouth gleams with white energy and the small crystal escapes from the man. Johnny grabs it with a gloved hand. The man drops to the grund, smoking, his eyes roll into the back of his head and his mouth is slack open.

[gadgetwk]

GR/WBN sounds great, I'd love to do some pencils on that if you guys get that rolling.

[killingyouguy]

GR/WBN sounds great, I'd love to do some pencils on that if you guys get that rolling.

Long way to go, but stick around. We'll get there. The other jam (Wolverine v Alien) however,is about to go into production soon.

[gadgetwk]

yeah i know, just saying. looks good so far.

[malachimanson]

yeah we are in pre production phase. We like to have one active project and then one pre production project going. So once we either finish the one or get the go ahead from Ugga we just try to hammer out a lot of things first so it can be as smooth as it can be.

[Ugga Bugga]

yeah we are in pre production phase. We like to have one active project and then one pre production project going. So once we either finish the one or get the go ahead from Ugga we just try to hammer out a lot of things first so it can be as smooth as it can be.

I agree.

wolverine vs alien has absolute 100% priority. We may not recruit any talent to work on pages for this one, until all assignments for w vs a are made.

[airbrushartist]

The story bogs down a bit with the long conversation. Tighten that a bit so the action can get started again. How about instead of The wolf getting lassoed we see the rider on his steed coming after the wolf. Makes for a more dramatic splash-like intro of GR. Also the opening bar scene, is it a first page splash with maybe a small inset of the bar from outside for location purposes? I can really picture Jack Russell(snicker) (gotta be a Stan Lee Joke, Jack Russell;))standing over the badguy.

[Ugga Bugga]

Once you have a title for the jam, let me know, and I will ask a mod to change the name of this thread.

[mana-boozy]

hmm, maybe we could develop a character and have the story tell like from a first person point of view? or even third person! maybe he can invade a universe rather than marvel or dc.

maybe a film universe character vs a tv series vs other indpendant publisher. that would be great!

he can go through a time rift ala' kingdom hearts. it'll get the artist into it as well, since the script will allow for the penciller to interact with the characters abit more.

man imagine your character vs heroes characters vs the killer from zodiac or seven vs a character from dynamo 5 or maybe invincible or one of the umbrella academy!

that would be refreshing just thinking of putting your own spin on those characters!

[killingyouguy]

hmm, maybe we could develop a character and have the story tell like from a first person point of view? or even third person! maybe he can invade a universe rather than marvel or dc.

maybe a film universe character vs a tv series vs other indpendant publisher. that would be great!

he can go through a time rift ala' kingdom hearts. it'll get the artist into it as well, since the script will allow for the penciller to interact with the characters abit more.

man imagine your character vs heroes characters vs the killer from zodiac or seven vs a character from dynamo 5 or maybe invincible or one of the umbrella academy!

that would be refreshing just thinking of putting your own spin on those characters!

I think it might be interesting to have a character jumping from world to world, maybe a specific comic book "mutiverse" world - like the Watchmen universe, the Dick Sprang era Batman universe, etc. - so that each page would be a different world, so that the individual artists could do with them what they will. This wouldn't be limited to comics to, we could have like Star Wars or Harry Potter or Dr. Who or any other pop culture world.

[malachimanson]

we could do as Justice said a werewolf story. But I don't want a bitch who whines about killing. I want a blood thrusty killer. Who murders everyone in his wake.


I think it might be interesting to have a character jumping from world to world, maybe a specific comic book "mutiverse" world - like the Watchmen universe, the Dick Sprang era Batman universe, etc. - so that each page would be a different world, so that the individual artists could do with them what they will. This wouldn't be limited to comics to, we could have like Star Wars or Harry Potter or Dr. Who or any other pop culture world.

But how do you tell a flowing story if each page is in a different universe?

[Dri]

But how do you tell a flowing story if each page is in a different universe?

I think it will work when different artists work on different pages in this instance.

I happen to think because each artist was different (stylistically) on Spidey/Joker/Arcade jam, it wasn't flowing.
Not a criticism to anyone at all. I feel the same way reading backup stories in comics and even
different pencilers and inkers working on the same story. But it manages to work when the story is told in
different POVs, dream sequences and different time frames.

[killingyouguy]

I think it will work when different artists work on different pages in this instance.

I happen to think because each artist was different (stylistically) on Spidey/Joker/Arcade jam, it wasn't flowing.
Not a criticism to anyone at all. I feel the same way reading backup stories in comics and even
different pencilers and inkers working on the same story. But it manages to work when the story is told in
different POVs, dream sequences and different time frames.

Exactly my reasoning. I think our main character(s) should be chasing a villain who has stolen some sort of device that allows them to cross worlds.

[Bathill8]

This convo reminds me of my all time fav spiderman story (can't remember which book and issue off hand, its at my studio) involving 3 different POV from Mary Jane, Peter Parker and JJ Jameson sitting at a cafe drinking coke floats and discussing how they were all three caught in the middle of a bank during a robbery ealier that day and how each of them saw Spiderman over take the would be criminal....well in JJ's version of course, spiderman was an accomplice and he foiled both their plans. I remember it had several artist in the issue too.... some soon to be heavy hitters........I'm thinking both Mark Texeira and Todd McFarlane penciled some pages. It was very funny with the different takes and well written. Either way, count me in on more colabs!!

[killingyouguy]

Here's my current pitch:

The Doctor and Billie Piper's character from Dr. Who are chasing Carmen Sandiego, who has stolen a device which allows her to jumps across universes. They chase her through various Pop Culture worlds until the stop her, destroyer her machine and ending with them reverting back to the "real" world.

Current thoughts on worlds they could jump into:

World of Warcraft
Adam West Batman show
Star Wars or Star Trek
the 60's (Stan and Jack) Marvel U
Mario (specifically, I like the idea of using Mario Kart)
early 90s Image comics
Watchmen
Ultimate Marvel
Halo
GTA (could be any, though I'm partial to Vice City)

I'm going to a hockey game now and will flesh out this idea while I'm there. The worlds are obviously subject to what specific people would want to do, so if this flies we can certainly work with what worlds specific people would want to draw. The main characters can also change, but I really like the idea of using Carmen Sandiego. (And I'm the writer, dammit! :) ) I'm not a huge Dr. Who fan but I thought that would work as the TARDIS can move through time and space, so it'd sort of be all in a day's work for the Doctor.

I also think this idea works very well because with the exception of the main characters and any recurring props (like the TARDIS)

[malachimanson]

Ok next question Is how do you tell a story in one page even in a different world. You'd want to show case said world. With such a solid chase story your gonna need the chase to happen. You'd need to tell them arriving to said world seeing "Carmen" or whoever leaving them going after her.

First panel would be entrance of hero. Last two panels would be exit of Villain and Exit of hero. May I suggest two pages per world. You can also explain that maybe something else is effecting the multiverse in such a way that they shift in the world right before they leave.

May I suggest that we not use Rose from Dr. Who if we use him. Keeping it just him and him using a device on the Tardis to jump through the multiverse. I'd might also suggest maybe Carmen steals the Tardis and boots both of them off. Dr Who has said device with him but it only works for one person.
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I do agree that having different artist work on a project can mess up the flow of the book. But this is for fun its not a published book. Trying to keep it simple as possible at the moment. Maybe later we could try to have one penciler for all 8 pages but that would be such a huge undertaking for one person to do it just for fun. I'd might suggest 4 pages and even that would be pushing it in my eyes.

I do like the Ideas of both stories. GR vs WBN, and this multiverse story. I'm gonna say these two are on the top of my list to get picked. Lets try to hammer out the Multiverse pitch main characters, side characters and over all plot and why the villain is going to each world.

Anther suggestion on the multiverse story is that it can be told through third person. It would help keep down a lot of dialogue and who ever is talking will be narrating the story. Just a suggestion.

[Ugga Bugga]

not too complicated people. Keep it simple and fun. Something that will appeal to lots of artists.

[killingyouguy]

I know it seems like a complicated idea, but really the complication only comes in the scripting stage. It allows a lot of freedom for the individual artists to create a world.

Basically the premise is that Carmen attempts to steal a machine that, when Carmen accidentally activates it, causes them to jump through various worlds at random, rather that them following her through that world. They would not use the Tardis to chase her. So they would drop into the middle of a Halo battle with Carmen, etc. And then jump to the next as Carmen does because they are somehow linked to her.

I certainly agree that two pages per world would be best, but it would be next to impossible to find that many artists willing to draw a full 2 pages. And even harder for inkers and colorists.

[malachimanson]

Kill I would like you to write a synopsis of both GR vs WBN and this Multiverse. What I want in this is your story clearly depicting what you want to take place in both stories.

Also A list of characters who would be involved as well as for the case of the Multiverse which universes your gonna use.

Both don't have to be long since this is only a 8 page comic strip. A short paragraph or two explain the events you would cover in your those two stories.

I do agree that the multiverse will give more freedom to each artist. It would also be a lot of fun to see all those universe crammed into one book. So Kill what you say some quick synopsis of both stories.

[killingyouguy]

I'm heading back to school tomorrow, so either Saturday night or Sunday I will have them up.

[Ugga Bugga]

I know it seems like a complicated idea, but really the complication only comes in the scripting stage. It allows a lot of freedom for the individual artists to create a world.

snip snip

I certainly agree that two pages per world would be best, but it would be next to impossible to find that many artists willing to draw a full 2 pages. And even harder for inkers and colorists.


no worries. I wasn't really suggesting the ideas were too complicated. I just wanted to warn everyone that I think they should keep it simple.

One of the rules I laid down for Malachimanson was 8 pages maximum.

The way to do this, imo, Is to make a script that has expandability potential. Write it as an 8 pager. However, if all of the spots get filled and finished well ahead of schedule, allow for more to be inserted.

Do your complete 8 page story, but allow it to be expanded.

[killingyouguy]

A few things:

Werewolf by Night v Ghost Rider Summary


Jack Russel sits drinking whiskey in an old bar in the middle of nowhere. In the corner, a man with a shaved head named Lucas attempts to hide in the crowd. Jack gets up and confronts the man, who has killed twelve people on a cross country spree. But the victims have all been werewolves. The man tries to slash Jack, who blocks it and tackles the man through a window. Outside, a three quarter moon glares down at them. Jack begins to transform, he sprouts hair, claws, and fangs becoming Warewolf by Night. The man stabs him with the knife, its silver and Jack howls in pain. Lucas runs off and Jack gives chase. Before he can reach the man he is stopped by Ghostrider, who tells Jack he needs the man – alive. Jack, wolfed out, refuses to accept this and he and Ghostrided tussle. GR knocks him down and chains him to a tree. GR then chases the man on his motorcycle. Jack thrashes wild, expending all of his energy and turning back into a normal man. The chains slip off decreases in size and he runs in shattered clothes back to Ghostrider. GR is clutching the man around the throat, delivering a penance stare. His eyes and mouth burn and start to glare with blue-white light. A small blue crystal comes out of the man’s mouth and he collapses dead to the floor. GR explains that the man had stolen a small crystal which housed an energy called The Saphire of Khonshu. It somehow possessed the man and made him seek out and slay werewolves to consume the lunar energies which they possessed in order to give Khonshu the strength to manifest himself on our plane. Had Jack killed him before GR could give him the penance stare and sap his energy, something bad would have happened.

I definitely think that could work as a simple, fun Jam.

Now, something more ambitious, but I still think easy to maintain. My Multiverse idea. In order to streamline it, and only have one item capable of interdimensional travel, I'm going to drop Dr. Who and Rose from the cast and instead have Rorschach and Nite-Owl of Watchmen fly over there to investigate. Turns out she has stolen a device which allows her to travel between any fictional reality. So she steals things from other worlds and brings them into hers. So Rorschach tries to stop her, breaking the machine and they disappear without the device into thin air. They then start appearing in other dimensions.

[killingyouguy]

Multiverse Synopsis:

Rorschach and Nite Owl V Carmen Sandiego.

Visited Worlds:

60s Marvel

Mario Kart

Halo

Image Comics

EC comics

Dark Knight Returns

Watchmen universe


Rorschach and Nite Owl travel in the Owlship to the Statue of Liberty having seen strange frequencies coming from it. There, they find Carmen Sandiego attempting to steal the Statue of Liberty’s torch. She has stolen a device that allows her to travel to any other fictional reality. So she’s been stealing things in other dimensions and returning with them to her dimension. They attempt to stop her and Rorschach attempts to destroy the machine (a small backpack looking device) and the two of them disappear into an alternate reality.

First: They land in the 60’s. It’s the 60’s Marvel U, and the gritty Rorschach is out of his element. He sees Carmen and pursues her – maybe she has the answers. They pass a superhero rumble, or some such event before jumping again, seemingly at random.

They then land on carts going around a wacky race track: they’ve landed on a level of Mario Kart and are part of the race. They almost get into a large crash before they disappear, narrowly avoiding the snapping jaws of a Piranha Plant.

They then land on an alien world. Or should I say ring, as this is Halo. They are amid an epic battle where they encounter Master Chief leading a squad of marines against Covenant forces.

Jumping out of there, they land in a similar environment, but with a lot more pecks. The are in world of early Image Comics, where Spawn, Savage Dragon and the Original WildCATS fight together against a large, generic looking demon/villain.

As most of the page is a splash, they jump out of there very quickly. Landing then in an early EC horror comic. A crazed man with a butcher’s cleaver chops off his own arm then passes out due to blood loss. Rorschach and Carmen stand alone in silence for a moment until Rorschach tackles her. They jump, thinking they’ve landed in the Watchmen ‘verse they had left.

They are in a dirty gritty alley. Everything seems right. Then bright lights shine above them. They think it is Nite Owl until DKR Batman and Robin jump down. They find themselves amid a mutant gang war. They jump out of there as Batman slams his fist into a nearby mutant’s face, breaking it.

They land back in the Watchmen verse as the machine explodes and Carmen crashes to the ground. Nite Owl asks what happened. Rorschach says he believes they were unstuck in the multiverse, and only upon reconnecting could they revert back to their stable state. Carmen then hits a device—a backup single use dimensional portal—and disappears into time and space. Rorachach and Nite Owl stand alone on the Statue, looking out over New York.

[killingyouguy]

The only one I'm not sure of is EC comics. I don't really like that one but I'm trying to figure out one that works because that world needs to be a quiet one, to then jump into the DKR world. I just like that set up. It could be something like Family Guy or the Simpsons. Or something like that but it shouldn't be an action page.

[J. Alexopoulos]

I like both of your story ideas.

[malachimanson]

As much as I don't like TDKSA TDKR is one of my few like miller books. I really like the Idea of the multiverse thing. I'm gonna give a few days for people to talk about. i'll see which one everyone is intrested in.

So its between these two that will be greenlite. I'll give the greenlite to one of these saturday and when I do Kill give me a est of how long it take for you to come up with the 8 pages.

[killingyouguy]

Comments anyone? Queries? Suggestions? Preferences?

[Ugga Bugga]

I have no preference. (Aren't I helpful?)

[gadgetwk]

i prefer the ghost rider/werewolf by night story.

[malachimanson]

Anyone else? you have 24 hours to discuss or i'll make the pick.

[Dri]

Multiverse sounds more fun.

[jdmakescomics]

I'm with the multiverse one too, more opportunities and variety for the artists.

[Ugga Bugga]

my vote is for Ms. Pacman vs. Jessica Rabbit. But what do I know?

[mana-boozy]

multiverse = more artistic interpretation

[killingyouguy]

I'm with the multiverse one too, more opportunities and variety for the artists.


multiverse = more artistic interpretation

Yeah, that was pretty much my thinking.

[malachimanson]

Multiverse it is. Kill give me a est of when you can have the first draft of the script done.

[killingyouguy]

Give me a week. I have school work and other stuff to balance, but I can get it up by the end of next weekend.

[malachimanson]

Alright. I'll even extend to two weeks. Since the wolverine jam still not started yet.

[Ugga Bugga]

Multiverse it is. Kill give me a est of when you can have the first draft of the script done.


Great. I will ask a mod to change the name of this thread to FUSION JAM: Multiverse

[killingyouguy]

Alright. I'll even extend to two weeks. Since the wolverine jam still not started yet.

Sounds good. That will definitely give me time to get a good solid draft together.

[malachimanson]

Just doing a quick Update hows things coming Kill?

[delaneyclark]

hello, i am new to this site. can i participate in this? how do i join for pencils, or inks? sounds fun

[NickRocks]

youll have to wait till uggs or whoever is in charge starts handing out page assignments.

[Ugga Bugga]

hello, i am new to this site. can i participate in this? how do i join for pencils, or inks? sounds fun

Howdy.

Right now, the Wolverine vs. Alien jam is in full swing. Currently, this jam is in the pre-production stage, specifically the writing stage.

This jam will not go into production until ALL art assignments on the Wolverine vs. Alien jam have been assigned.

Once there is someone assigned, then I can give the greenlight for this one to proceed to production stage.

Typically, these are done on a first come, first served basis, but only once the assignments are put on the open market. Really, you need to follow what is going on.

I would suggest that you check in to the W vs. A jam, and see what is going on there. Perhaps there is an available assignment or two.

[killingyouguy]

Just doing a quick Update hows things coming Kill?

Been working on it. Notes and stuff. I'm just trying to get some other (read: school) work done before I start the actual script.

[malachimanson]

Been working on it. Notes and stuff. I'm just trying to get some other (read: school) work done before I start the actual script.

No problem School first man. Just checking up you know.

[mana-boozy]

once again put me down for a page!

wohoooo!!!!

[malachimanson]

all in due time my friend. Right now its in scripting and page assignments will be handed out once the Wolverine one is done. Once we lock in a final draft of Kill's script we will be handing out design assignments.

[Ugga Bugga]

I am thrilled by all of the excitement by people to participate in these.

[malachimanson]

Ok sorry been under the weather this past week which has sucked and since I don't own a drawing board and i draw on a piece of wood jammed into my stomach I well couldn't draw. Let alone keep up with other stuff.

So Since my illness pushed me back a week and wasn't able to keep tabs on the scripting process here. Kill is away at the moment and I'm aware of this he isn't coming back till Monday.

I'm pushing the script due date till Wednesday to give him two days to cram if he has to. Were just looking at first draft anyway due Wednesday any edits needed will come after the fact.

[Ugga Bugga]

I have asked killingyouguy to let me know once all of the art assignments are done on the Wolvie Jam.

I don't know where they are, but when they get to that stage, I would really like to be able to move this into production, and start pre-production on a new, as yet undetermined jam.

That means, I would like to have

(a) a completed script
(b) character and location designs

ready to go, when they have all their art assignments.

NOW, as I said, I have no idea where they are in that jam, though I do see alot of art coming through. If it isn't workable, its not the end of the world. However, that would be the optimum situation as far as I am concerned.

[killingyouguy]

malachi: sorry about the delays, I was in New York City all weekend. I'll have the script by Wednesday, thanks for the extra time.

[malachimanson]

malachi: sorry about the delays, I was in New York City all weekend. I'll have the script by Wednesday, thanks for the extra time.

No problem man i knew you were away and knew you were at a con.

[Ugga Bugga]

Any progress updates?

I want to make sure that we are in a position to move this forward, when we are ready.

It looks as though we will be ready sooner than I expected.

[malachimanson]

Didn't even realize what day it was. I flipped my sleeping around so I'm totally lost on days. Sorry =/, Kill hows the script coming?

[Ugga Bugga]

Can we set a firm, and enforceable due date for the script, so we know when we can have things.

I would like to see things in the pre-production stage, so that we can move right into production when the time is right.

[malachimanson]

Yeah sorry like I said I totally lost on days here. I honestly thought it was still around Tuesday I'm totally lost track of time. Kill can you get a script up by the end of the night because it was Due two days ago?

[Ugga Bugga]

no problem malachimanson. whatever dates you set are fine. It's my job to make sure things move.

[killingyouguy]

Hey guys, sorry for the extreme delays. Other than personal stuff that got me distracted, this was a very tough script to write. I know there are a lot of panels per page, but it's really difficult (as ugga forewarned) to set up a gag or an action per page. So when we, down the line, get to pencil assignments, if anyone wants to do 2 pages I can rewrite the seen to have more breathing room. Again sorry for the delays.

[killingyouguy]

RORSCHACH v. CARMEN SANDIEGO: CRISIS ON INFINITE FICTIONS

Length: 8 pages

PAGE ONE – WATCHMEN UNIVERSE: Eight panels

Page one is a 9 panel grid, like the Watchmen comic is, but panel 4 takes up the space of 2 of the panels.

1/ Inside the Nite Owl’s Owlship. One the left side of the panel, we see Nite Owl’s costumed right arm and hand fiddle with electronics. On the right, Rorschach’s left arm holds a pencil, writing in his journal with a stubby pencil. Between them, the control panel of the ship gleams, dotted with buttons and switches. Above the we can see out through the two “eyes” of the owl ship. He see that we are high above the buildings of New York, heading out into the harbor.

JOURNAL: (the the yellow torn caption that appear in Watchmen depicting Rorschach’s journal entries) Rorschach’s Journal: Flower pot out window this morning. Fell on guy’s head. Hilarious. Omen?

NITE OWL: Should be there soon. The electromagnetic disturbance is only getting stronger.

RORSCHACH: Jon.

2/ Close on Rorschach. He looks up from his journal.

NITE OWL: I think Jon’s on Mars, Rorschach. Last I checked.

RORSHACH: Talking about Dr. Manhattan. That means Nothing.

NITE OWL: Point.

3/ Through the circular “eye” window of the Owlship, we see a silhouette of the Statue of Liberty in the distance, rising out of the waters.

JOURNAL: Jon on Mars. Never good sign. What is this? Feel… flat?

NITE OWL: There she is.

4/ This is the first panel of the second tier. It takes up the space of two panels. Leaving panel 5 also on this tier. The Owlship flies toward the Statue of Liberty, which is in full view.

NITE OWL: Lady Liberty.

5/ The Owlship hovers above the head of the Statue of Liberty. A rope ladder dangles from an opened trap door in the bottom of the ship.

6/ This is the first panel of the third tier. Rorschach stands on the crest of Liberty’s head. Nite Owl is stepping off of the ladder onto the head as well. Nite Owl has a small electronic device in his hand with a long antenna, like one of those old hand held TVs.

RORSCHACH: Where to?

7/ Nite Owl points up the arm of the Statue to her torch.

8/ The silhouette of a woman – CARMEN SANDIEGO – stands on the edge of the Statue’s torch.

PAGE TWO – (WATCHMEN CONT’D): (9 panels)

Also a nine panel Grid.

1/ Over the shoulder of Rorschach, the woman takes off from the edge of the torch on a jet pack-like device, a plume of flame and smoke behind her.

2/ First panel of second tier. Full shot of Carmen Sandiego, a jetpack strapped to her back. She is hovering in the air. This is the first time we see her so make it count.

CARMEN SANDIEGO: Gumshoes…

3/ Over the shoulder or Carmen. Rorschach and Nite-Owl stand below her.

CARMEN: Interesting outfits. Never thought you’d find me here. Score one for the ACME detective agency.

4/ On Carmen. A small device is held in her hands – she clicks a button on it.

CARMEN: Too late, though.

SFX: Clik

5/ The torch of the statue illuminates in is a bright light…

6/ Then disappears. Leaving the arm cut off at the wrist.

7/ Wide. Carmen hovers just slightly above Rorschach and Nite-Owl. Too close. Rorashach looks over to Nite-Owl. Nite-Owl is transfixed on the woman.

CARMEN: I’m not greedy gumshoes. It’s not like I’m stealing all of them. Just the one from this reality. This little gizmo let’s me go wherever, whenever, and however I want.



8/ Rorschach leaps off the head of the Statue, tackling Carmen in mid air. The device flies from her hand.

NITE OWL: Rorschach!

9/ A swirl of colorful energy.

CARMEN (radiates from the center of the swirl): It wasn’t locked on to a clear signal! We could end up anywhere!!!--

PAGE THREE – MARIO KART: (8 panels)

1/ They land on a hard-packed dirt track, the colorful portal rotating above them. Several hologram ‘?’ Cubes rotate a distance behind them.

SFX: CRASH

2/ They stand up, Carmen dusting herself off. Rorschach is holding his face over his eyes.

CARMEN: Well that’s wonderful. Congratulations, imbecile.

RORSCHACH: So… bright. Garish.

CARMEN: It’s not like I was using a blender, you know. That was very sophisticated technology. We have no idea where we are. We could run into any—

SFX: RRRMMBBBLLLLLL

3/ Two karts, carrying whichever Mario Kart characters (as long as they are not Mario) you’d like to draw, slam into Rorschach and Carmen, who fall into the drivers’ seats.

4/ The drivers of the two karts tumble out of the cars as other racers whiz past, including Mario, leaving Rorschach and Carmen in the drivers seats of their carts.

5/ The wrestle for the control of their vehicles.

6/ Mario pulls up alongside of them.

MARIO: Who is’a you?

RORSCHACH: Could ask the same, guido.

MARIO: It’s a me, Mari—oh, no!
7/ A flying green shell topples into Mario, Carmen and Rorschach sending their karts and the drivers flying.

8/ Mario and Carmen swirl through a portal as they fly through the air.

CARMEN: Now what?

PAGE FOUR – MARVEL 1960s: (5 panels)

1/ They land on a rooftop, during the day of a squeaky clean New York City. The is Marvel Comics – circa the 1960’s.

CARMEN: Least we’re back in a city.

RORSCHACH: Clean. Almost… groovy.

2/ A flaming man, the Human Torch, streaks by above them. They look up to it.

3/ Major panel of the page. Galactus marches through New York city, the Silver Surfer flying around his head. The Fantastic Four speed toward Galactus, three in the Fantasticar and one Johnny flying. The Hulk speeds toward them, bounding rooftops. (We see motion lines probably to indicate this.) And Spider-Man web swings toward Galactus. Any other 60s Marvel heroes (Avengers, pre-Giant Size X-Men) can be features as well if the artists would like.

REED RICHARDS: We must defend the city!

SPIDEY: Let’s get ‘em, cats!

4/ Rorschach and Carmen look up, a shadow half covering them.

BALLOON (OFF PANEL): He can’t be stopped!

BALLOON (OP): My powers are useless!

SFX: BOOOOOM!! ZAP! SKKKZZZTT!!!

5/ Carmen and Rorschach disappear in the swirl of color, we can see their silhouettes.

PAGE FIVE - HALO: (7 panels)

1/ An explosion kicks up a massive cloud of black dirt and shredded grass.

SFX: Boom!

2/ The explosion clears and Carmen and Rorschach are running across a grassy battlefield. This is the level ZANZIBAR from Halo 2. Several other explosions blow up large chunks of dirt and rock. Several Alien Grunts run past around her. Blasts of plasma fire across the panel.

3/ Wide. Master Chief, on the back of a Warthog piloted by a Marine soldier, tears past firing wildly. Rorschach, Carmen, and several grunts dive out of the way of the careening vehicle. We see the large complex of Zanzibar with the rotating wheel in the background.

4/ Carmen gets up, readjusting her hat. A BRUTE speaks from off panel.

BRUTE: <halo gibberish> (see Bendis’ Halo: Uprising for examples of the text.)

5/ A Brute stands towering over Carmen, holding a Gravity Hammer. He yells in Brute language, snarling. Rorschach can be seen a short distance behind them.

BRUTE: <more halo gibberish!!!>

6/ Close on the Brute as a PLASMA GRENADE flies from off panel and sticks to the side of his head. His face has a comedic “huh?” expression.

BRUTE: <?> (The speech balloon is just a large Question mark offset in < > brackets.)

7/ Rorscach dives and tackles Carmen as the Brute explodes in a large plasma detonation. As they fly, they start to disappear.

PAGE SIX –EC COMICS: (7 panels)

1/ Carmen and Rorschach appear in a small, unassuming kitchen.

2/ Wide of the kitchen. It’s dark and dirty, with little color, and a man stands at the counter chopping vegetables next to a soup pot on the stove which steams.

MAN: Oh, hello. I didn’t see you there. Are you a friend of my wife? You’re here early. Dinner’s not until seven.

RORSCHACH: Um….

3/ The man turns to face them.

MAN: Have you met Ted? Did you know him? I just me him today actually. This morning.

4/ He turns back to the soup, picking up a ladle with one hand and sprinkling salt in the pot with the other.

MAN: I got home early. I figured I’d give my wife a hand with the cooking. But she was already being given a hand. And another male appendage, I have to assume.

5/ He swirls the soup with the ladle, smelling it.

MAN: But by golly, we were having a dinner party. So here I am, slaving over a hot stove. But it’s okay, really. And I lucked out when I realized we hadn’t gotten the meat for the soup.

6/ He pulls out a ladle full of soup. Broth drips from it, we see an eyeball, several fingers and bits of organ meat floating amid the broth and vegetables. His face contorts into a mad gin.

MAN: Lily and her friend gave me a hand. And some other body parts!

7/ Over the shoulder of the man. Rorschach and Carmen have disappeared in a colored portal.

MAN: Wait! The Cryptkeeper and the Old Witch and Mr. Gaines would love to meet you! Oh, darn.

PAGE SEVEN – DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: (7 Panels)

(First 4 panels are small 16-panel grid type panels as featured often in DKR. 5th panel is a big, epic shot. 6 and 7 are smaller panels as well, not necessarily gird-style though.)

1/ Carmen and Rorschach appear in a dirty alley in Gotham city. There are scattered trashcans and a dumpster which a black cat is crawling out of.

2/ Rorschach looks around.

RORSCHACH: Alley. Clogged veins of urban decay. Years of filth and whorish grime.

3/ Rorschach turns back to Carmen, shrugging his shoulders.

RORSCHACH: Seems right.

4/ A white spotlight shines down on the two of them, they look up – shielding their eyes from the glare.

RORSCHACH: Or not.

5/ Big, giant Frank Millery panel of DKR Batman hanging from a rope ladder which dangles from a helicopter.

6/ On Rorschach and Carmen.

CARMEN: Uh…

7/ They disappear in swirling color.

PAGE 8 – back to WATCHMEN ‘VERSE (9 panel grid.)

1/ They land standing on the head of the Statue of Liberty. Nite Owl yells with an arm outstretched in the other direction, where in his mind Rorschach had only seconds before tackled Carmen in mid air.

NITE OWL: --SCHAAACH!!!!!

2/ Nite-Owl turns and looks back to Rorschach and Carmen.

NITE OWL: Oh. Uh…. Where’d you go?

3/ Rorschach and Carmen are standing almost in shock.

CARMEN: Oh, you know. A little sight seeing.

NITE OWL: Excuse me?

4/ Rorschach punches Carmen across the face.

NITE OWL: Rorschach!

5/ Carmen is sprawled out on the ground. Nite Owl and Rorschach stand over her. Rorschach is rubbing his fist.

NITE OWL: What the hell, man?

RORSCHACH: Bad guy.

NITE OWL: Oh yeah… right.

6/ Carmen on the ground. She is groggy.

CARMEN: Uhhhh…

NITE OWL: She’s awake.

RORSCHACH: Damn.

NITE OWL: What’s she saying?

7/ Carmen leans up slightly and clicks a button on a small device on her wrist.

CARMEN: Always have an escape plan, gumshoes.

SFX: CLIK

8/ Rorschach and Nite Owl lean back as Carmen disappears in yet another swirl of color.

9/ Rorschach and Nite Owl stand awkwardly.

NITE OWL: So, did we win?

RORSCHACH: Torch. Took it.

NITE OWL: Oh damn, I forgot all about that.

[Ugga Bugga]

Above the we can see out through the two “eyes” of the owl ship. He see that we are high above the buildings of New York, heading out into the harbor.



a couple of typos (the kind that spellcheck misses)


Above them

we see not he see

also, two sentences could be combined, to say the same thing, and cut down on unnecessary words.


Through the eyes of the own ship, above them, we see that the ship is high above the buildings of New York, heading out into the harbor.

[Ugga Bugga]

It's a nice script. The punchline was a little lost on me.

I don't think that the objective is clear. It should be stated early, and repeated so we know what they are trying to accomplish, and we can keep track if they were successful.

[killingyouguy]

It's a nice script. The punchline was a little lost on me.

I don't think that the objective is clear. It should be stated early, and repeated so we know what they are trying to accomplish, and we can keep track if they were successful.

I agree with you entirely. There were a couple of visual cues and other things I'd planned on putting in but it just ended up so dense because of jumping from world to world. I'll see if I can come up with something, though. And suggestions are certainly welcome.

[blamito]

I don't think that the objective is clear. It should be stated early, and repeated so we know what they are trying to accomplish, and we can keep track if they were successful.

Maybe some more of the Rorschach monologue on the first page about some "robberies" or monuments/whatever she's stealing, that they're investigating. It would give more info about what they're doing.



This little gizmo let’s me go wherever, whenever, and however I want.
I would maybe say "This little gizmo let’s me go to any time in any dimension I want. It just makes it a little more clearer what's happening to them in the story, and I'm guessing there's only the swirling portals to get there.

Another concern is they just jump at anytime. Maybe when Rorschach jumps at Carmen in the second page, he breaks the gizmo. And she says something like "You fool. Who knows where we'll end up". There doesn't HAVE to be anything else but maybe she smacks the gizmo before they port out of the dimension.

As far it being so dense, I think it's cool to design the pages like the comics they come from, but some pages don't need so much. In the third page, if they were standing on a track and Mario pulls up in a kart, talks to them and gets hit with a shell, people are going to know where they are. I guess I'm just suggesting it could be simplified because they're not really doing much in each world other than waiting to get suckied in to the portal. I probably wouldn't know they were in the Halo world unless master chef was in it.


Mario and Carmen swirl through a portal as they fly through the air. Not that this would get confused, but I believe it should be Rorschach and Carmen.

I know there's an 8 page limit, but I don't see why there couldn't be a couple more(I believe there was enough interest from pencilers) and some worlds stretched out to two pages. Or the last page of worlds could be just Rorschach and Carmen in a different world on each panel. It wouldn't be too hard to show them running from a dinosaur in one panel then in outer space the next.

Anyways, this ended up a lot longer than I expected, but they're just some thoughts. Use them or ignore them. :)

[Ugga Bugga]

Getting pencillers is never a problem for these jams. It is getting inkers and colorists that is always a problem.

I was hoping to have three succesful jams under our belts before we advanced the page count.

I would rather have completed jams, then have ones in limbo forever because we could not recruit people to finish the work.

I realize that it creates storytelling difficulties, but it also forces us to exercise some brevity.

[blamito]

Yeah, I didn't know when/if the format was going to change. I agree though it's good to get a story done in 8 pages. I always say start off with 6. If you can't complete 6 pages of story, written and fully illustrated, how are you going to do it with 22 pages?

[Ugga Bugga]

I've considered adding on a page per completed jam.

I am just worried that we will end up with uncompleted jams as we have in the past, and that is something that I am not really prepared to have happen under my watch.

[malachimanson]

Also if push comes to shove ugga May I suggest black and white you could always skip color. Its a suggestion but sometimes you gotta cut corners to get something done. About to read the script been tring to get that damn cover rendered properly.

[malachimanson]

Not a bad start. A few suggestions since this is all gonna be really fast with not a lot of dialouge. Can the we get internal thought of pastense from Rorschach. He can narrate the story as it is happening.

Also I was expecting some Flower pot interaction at some point. Unless I missed it. I thought a joke for later in the comic was gonna happen.

[mana-boozy]

yeah, that would be a good idea skipping the colours. but presentation wise it could be a problem, but hey it worked for sin city. i always wish there was more than 24 hours to the day, so i could get stuff done on time like b4.

almost done with the wolvie pages. getting there!

ugga, your pages are completely pencilled, now to inking. geez!

looking forward to this. hopefully my reputation on the wolvie jam won't affect my credentials getting a page for this jam! :(

[Ugga Bugga]

Also if push comes to shove ugga May I suggest black and white you could always skip color. Its a suggestion but sometimes you gotta cut corners to get something done. About to read the script been tring to get that damn cover rendered properly.

I've never much been a fan of greyscaled work. To me, if we are doing something, let's do it right. Also, one of the reasons for doing these jams, is to get people collaborating, and get people experience. Taking away the coloring, takes away that element.

seeing as we have had some success, I am willing to extend this to a 10 pager, as long as I have your commitment to see the recruiting through to the end.

[Ugga Bugga]

ugga, your pages are completely pencilled, now to inking. geez!

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me?????????????????????????????? confused!

[mana-boozy]

whoops! srry uggs.

at uggabugga.net

[Ugga Bugga]

ahhhhh, got it, Thanks.

[delaneyclark]

Can I do a page? I will ink and color it if needed.

[Breck]

I'll put my name in for a page or two. I can pencil and ink, and if you're in a tight spot I could color it too.

[Ugga Bugga]

Currently, we are running the Wolverine vs. Alien Jam.

All art positions must be filled in that jam, before we open up art assignments for this jam.

Basically, it is a right place, right time thing. You must stay posted to this thread, and when there is a call for artists, you can claim a page.

We have to keep things like this, because there have been a number of jams in the past, that lost steam, and never continued, only to waste the work of contributors. Right now, this is only in pre-production.

Please check into the W vs. A jam, as I am sure that there are art positions available in that one.

[killingyouguy]

Hey guys, great input so far. I'll take a second crack at the script this weekend, since I've got papers and other crap all week for school.

[malachimanson]

Rorschach, Carmen Sandiego and Nite Owl are gonna need Designs drawn up cause these Three are in the most panels/pages then the other pop in characters.

So I definitly see Rorschach and Carmen not being cut from the book so those two I'm gonna open design to.

This will be for their costumes for a base on what they look like. Due to the nature of this project each page will have a different Style of these designs. So it would be nice to have a over all design that artist can draw in a different style.

[Ugga Bugga]

glad to see this moving forward. I want to be ready to start page production when all of the assignments for the wolverine vs. alien jam have been assigned.

That means all the preproduction needs to be ready, or else we will fall behind on things.

[malachimanson]

Any interested in doing the Designs?

[malachimanson]

Any updates or any takers for the Designs of the character?

[malachimanson]

Ok this is really going No where fast. Ugga i'm stating if this doesn't pick up by the end of the month we should cut it and move on.

[Ugga Bugga]

Yes, I agree. Where do we stand on this?

[Breck]

Personally, I thought the whole concept was kinda lame.

[jdmakescomics]

It wasn't great literature, but it seemed like fun for the artists. Which I thought was the whole point. However, I don't think it'd hurt anyone to move on if it doesn't pick up.

[malachimanson]

Like I said Ugga if it doesn't pick up by the end of the month cut it.

[Ugga Bugga]

I don't really want to give up on this though, because people have already put work into it.

If I know where this stands, we can figure out a strategy to get it done.

[malachimanson]

Well the script was in rewrite process. If we could get an update to the Script then we might get the ball rolling.

I've open up takers for designs of Nite-Owl, Carmen and Ro. So if we have some takes on designs that could help this a long way.

[Ugga Bugga]

what I am going to recommend here, is a firm deadline on the script rewrite. Say 7-10 days. If its a no go, then we will move on to the next creative team, and work up a new idea.

[malachimanson]

K then March 21 is the deadline for the rewrite.

[caseycp]

my 2 cents re: the script. I think the EC page slows the flow somewhat, being somewhat dialogue heavy. Also, besides the line about the Crypt Keeper, et al. there's no real indication of what "world" they're in.

What about a Ninja Turtles page instead?

Just an idea...

[Morganza]

I just submitted these ideas to John, I was hoping to write the next Jam, Do any of these Ideas hold your interest?

1. DC vs Marvel Tea Party - The crazy and insane from both universes have an "Alice in Wonderland" type of tea party which quickly goes out of control.

2. Captain James T. Kirk vs The Hulk [Or something other impossible foe] - Nuff said

3. Goku vs Superman

4. Have a "Create your own SuperHero/ Villain" drawoff where the top three artists characters and backstories are used to create the next Jam. Where they all collaborate on the story.

[NickRocks]

I am THERE if its number 3. **** ill draw the whole damn thing lol.

[Breck]

If we do number 3 the traffic to this site will increase at least tenfold. Number 3 gets my vote.

[Ugga Bugga]

Hang on, hang on.

Great ideas.

But this multiverse is still a going concern, until the plug is pulled.

Behind the scenes, I have lined up J. Alexopoulos as editor of the next jam, and Morgan as the writer of the next jam.

If this one dies, we move on to the new team.

Malichi gave March 21 as the deadline for the rewrite.

If we are not ready with the rewrite at that time, then I will pull the plug on this jam, and start a new thread for the subsequent jam.

Plus Wolverine vs. Alien still needs inkers and colorists. Lets get that one done.

[killingyouguy]

Hey guys,

I am so sorry I haven't been able to rewrite the script. I am just constantly swamped with stuff at school and work, so I'm going to have to pull myself out of the ring as writer. Again, I'm really sorry.

Also, ugga you were right to call shenanigans on the multiverse concept from the get go. If we'd done the GR v WBN concept I could have kicked it out but this, for being only 8 pages, was a nightmare to plot and attempt to write. My suggestion would be to kill this since we never moved forward much on it anyways and go on to another. See if that gets moving better. With a... simpler concept.

Again... I suck for this.

[Beastie]

1. DC vs Marvel Tea Party - The crazy and insane from both universes have an "Alice in Wonderland" type of tea party which quickly goes out of control.

I'd HAVE TO get involved with this one :D

[Ugga Bugga]

no worries. This is all a learning process.

I am going to pull the plug on this. No worries.

Can a mod please lock down this thread.