Comic Book Idol 3

[bushiboy]

Wouldn't it be nice if people voted for best art and storytelling, rather than voing because it's your friend or you think if you don't vote they may be eliminated too soon? Just vote for what you like best in that particular round, period. Don't add to the corruption of the process.

Democracy sucks. I say we should have a comic dictator.

[dfbovey]

Good. How many hours left? Closes today at 5 eastern or western time?

Voting is closed as of now. Looks like both Aztek and Joh made it to the next round.

Congrats to both of you!

[Popninja]

I don't think it's fair that the two people whose last names started with an "L" got eliminated. Something fishy about that.

Time to bring the A game next round, guys.

[Justice41]

I believe by sticking to the script Az kept himself in the mix. Jose hurt his chance to be the lead by going off script. Glad to see all three forum Members getting through. To me Jose's stuff was afar and away the most professional and inventive stuff but I wasn't crazy about deviating from the script, which to me will hurt you even if you have skillz. Next time around guys do as you are asked and worry later about making changes when Marc Silvestri has you in the studio looking over your shoulder. Jose, you know what I mean.

[Dri]

Congrats to Andrew and Jose. Can't wait to see what you guys deliver next.

Kinda worrying for Jose Holder in the next round if the trend of votes is anything to go by. But Marc Silvestri mentioned that he would like to see him in the studio so that's an indication he'll land a gig in any case.

[dfbovey]

Az... man, you got my vote with the understanding that you won't wait till the last minute and turn in a rush job in the next round. Don't just cruise in this thing, dude! Show them what you've got!

[Keith]

Az... man, you got my vote with the understanding that you won't wait till the last minute and turn in a rush job in the next round. Don't just cruise in this thing, dude! Show them what you've got!

ditto
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[Huerta]

Yeah, I'm going to start drawing as soooon as I get the script lol. Thanks again and the next pages should look more like my other work or better.

But this may be an advantage for me considering people will expect the same kind of art.

[e_t_i]

I don't think it's fair that the two people whose last names started with an "L" got eliminated. Something fishy about that.

And they're both Canadian! :eek:

[Justice41]

Yeah so is Joh James.

[e_t_i]

Yeah, I'm going to start drawing as soooon as I get the script lol.

Here it is http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/scripts/wanderlost_script.doc
Now get cracking! ;)

more here: http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/cbi3/round-two/

[bushiboy]

Wow. THAt was self-indulgent drivel.

[dfbovey]

ewww.......

[DanielSchenstrom]

Glad my two faves got through, but they were both too close to being knocked out for my taste.
Joh and Az, your stuff rocked.

[dfbovey]

Some sample pages from that comic if you scroll down here...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9478

and here...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=92301

[Physicdesigns]

its a test of sequential art skills, now you got to set a scene and show a story that has no super heroes. While its not most peoples cup of tea, its a legit story, they say best to write from experience.

[dfbovey]

its a test of sequential art skills, now you got to set a scene and show a story that has no super heroes. While its not most peoples cup of tea, its a legit story, they say best to write from experience.

I just think as far as the contest is concerned... it's pretty boring material. I understand it from an assignment perspective though.

[Karim]

VIIIICTORYYYY!
http://suburbarazzi.lohudblogs.com/files/2007/06/tjndc5-5ex0jm4go4y14aemjmv8_layout.jpg

Now on to those pages Aztec!
Congrats to you Jose, well deserved.

[Huerta]

I will draw the meanest most badass looking kids from the 80s ever!


Not really. :( lol

[Keith]

Youngblood meets the Breakfast Club, the possibilities are endless.

brb writing a script

[Huerta]

Im going to hit up C.B. but I need ref. help on some deadhead chicks.

[Ra Havok]

Congrats on advancing, guys.


Man, what a corny script. Good luck with that. :p

[dfbovey]

Im going to hit up C.B. but I need ref. help on some deadhead chicks.

Hippie looking chicks with tie dyed shirts and bellbottom jeans would probably work.

[DanielSchenstrom]

I actually like the script. It's not exciting or action filled but a nice story. And googling for 80's fashion is bound to bring smiles or cringes :)

[joh james]

I'll try to do you guys proud. We both will. Ain't that right, AZ?!:D Don't worry. I've got some sweetness planned for these pages. The last set I finished Friday night with touch-ups on the weekend. This time around I'll be cranking them out over the weekend. Scanning and mailing on Monday. I hope.:p

[G-man_2000]

Missed this one completely. How many PJ’ers entered this contest?

[Karim]

I dunno about entering but remaining there is two I believe. Aztec and Joh james.

Looking forward to seeing your pages Joh James.

[joh james]

I dunno about entering but remaining there is two I believe. Aztec and Joh james.

Looking forward to seeing your pages Joh James.

Thanks, Karim. I'm pushing the envelope,...again.

[Spidey]

Good luck fellers, I enjoyed both entries. Too bad this story doesn't cater to your strengths, but if you guys pull it off I'm sure you'll impress the judges.

[Popninja]

I dunno about entering but remaining there is two I believe. Aztec and Joh james.

Looking forward to seeing your pages Joh James.

Nick Pitarra is a PJ member also.

[DanielSchenstrom]

The last set I finished Friday night with touch-ups on the weekend. This time around I'll be cranking them out over the weekend.

How can you be so fast? What's the secret, and where can I buy it?

[joh james]

Years of training myself in the ancient art of "One Line - One Draw". Ha! I used to teach it in my course. It's like some forms of calligraphy or cartooning. You commit to each line and rarely go back over them, or even use erasers. Takes a lot of confidence to lay your mistakes out to the world - on your first attempt! I haven't perfected it but when you're a storyboard artist and you've got 200 plus drawing to do for the day, there's very little room for uncertainty. Now pen erasers I eat for breakfast!

[e_t_i]

"One Line - One Draw"

Thanks for the advice! I'll try it.

Though I have no idea what you meant about pen erasers.

[Justice41]

Sounds like Jose is of the Marko the Great school of Drawing which I'd really like to learn myself.

[Karim]

"Jose is of the Marko the Great school of drawing"?
I don't get it.

[Keith]

"Jose is of the Marko the Great school of drawing"?
I don't get it.

marko djurdjevic goes right into the drawing using a single line technique of of finishing things, instead of using construction lines or building up figures. Jose does the same thing apparently.

Or you were poking fun at his grammar :o

[Huerta]

Jose is saying he drops one line and moves on. Marko renders and doesnt drop one line. theyre not the same.

Damn, I feel its like the rookie against the veteran. lol

[bfowler]

Marko is much more of a contour artist but on his DVD he hardly ever, ever erases so there probably is a lot over overlap. And he does use some very, very loose blobs of construction lines.

I think you have to draw ALOT to be able to pull this off. By the way, James, I'm a huge fan of your style and I see you way out in front of the other contestant as far as ability goes.

How long does your average page take to do?

[Keith]

seen a few of his covers where he just used looser thin lines w/o rendering, but I dunno his full process.

Anyone watch the DVDs and see if he erases at all, or does he not show himself drawing?

edit- nvm thanks bfowler

[bfowler]

The DVD shows him drawing a ton. Highly recommended.

[Huerta]

I dont erase either and im just starting to do that one line thing.. but Its tough. Especially with the style I use but Im all about improving really and not so much winning this thing.

[Karim]

I get it now, thanks. Yeah you must have quite some experience to do that succesfully.

[dfbovey]

I feel comfortable doing that when I'm drawing what's in front of me. Figure drawing classes, or using any kind of reference. But I get thrown off when I'm drawing from my head.

[e_t_i]

I feel comfortable doing that when I'm drawing what's in front of me. Figure drawing classes, or using any kind of reference. But I get thrown off when I'm drawing from my head.

Me too. I'm thinking I'll just switch to drawing in pen, then scan, print blueline, and do final inks.

[joh james]

I'm with you Az! Just want to enjoy the process and have fun creating and interpreting material. Honestly I probably spend too much time researching jobs and setting up reference versus actually drawing, but I prefer it that way. What about you guys?

[Physicdesigns]

hmm i dont think the one line method would work for me, some of my best work i have no idea what im doin till the rough sketches. i like draw a massive amount of lines then i sort of pick the right ones.

im not that fast though

to each his own

[W.Blankenship]

I actually tried something like that recently. Drawing in ink with no construction lines and no forethought to what was in the drawing. Just start with the first thing that pops in your head, and go from there. It's really liberating artistically, especially since I'm way to anal on a finished page.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/thecancerman37/SCUM.jpg

That was one of the results. I think I'll warm up with this today and try another.

3!LL

[Justice41]

It's kind of F'ed that Silvestri didn't comment on the last three contestants, including Az.

[Huerta]

If theres anyones crit I would like it would be Erik Larsen. He's the most honest man in the industry, IMO.

[W.Blankenship]

If theres anyones crit I would like it would be Erik Larsen. He's the most honest man in the industry, IMO.

I was lucky enough to get a crit from him online a few years back. He is honest, and lays it out straight.

[Inkthinker]

I actually tried something like that recently. Drawing in ink with no construction lines and no forethought to what was in the drawing. Just start with the first thing that pops in your head, and go from there. It's really liberating artistically, especially since I'm way to anal on a finished page.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/thecancerman37/SCUM.jpg

That was one of the results. I think I'll warm up with this today and try another.

3!LL

I do the same thing... it's something I picked up in animation, where you do a lot of cleanup for the final so you're encouraged to be loose at the draft stage, and red pencil strips cleanly. When I switched up to digital, I began doing even more rough and thumbnail sketching, because I can just put it on a Layer and turn it off, or duplicate it, warp it and blow it up if I put down a doodle that just sings. There's no medium quite so forgiving as the virtual.

But I know that recently, just for nostalgia, I went and inked some sketches in my thumbnail book with a Micron, and man... I'd forgotten what it felt like to work without a net. Digital makes it so easy to take back mistakes. It was actually pretty thrilling to get back into that groove, making every line work the first time.

And that was just inking in sketches. I didn't even think about just drawing with a brush or a pen, straight out with no forgiveness. Sounds like fun, think I might have some.

:D

[W.Blankenship]

Go for it, I'd love to see the results. I have to post one in sketches that I did the other night. The first thing that popped in my head was "action" so it was an interesting one.

3!LL

[Spidey]

The contestants are off to a slow start this round.

[DanielSchenstrom]

I think that's a good sign. They're probably taking more time and being more careful now that the game's heating up.

Wilfredo Torres' pages are up now.

[joekey]

Charles Paul Wilson III is my favorite so far, has a very indy feel about it, and rly enjoy his use of camera angles keeping the panels fresh

[Ra Havok]

Yet again, I'm pretty impressed with the entries (thus far). All these guys are very good with a pencil.

So far, CP Wilson has this one in the bag, IMHO.

Aztek, your entry is pretty sweet as well, but you did get a bit minimalistic on page 2.

[Justice41]

Wilson's and McDaid's are nice as well as Caio, but it's Wilson this round.

[e_t_i]

Whoa, Ciao's thread just got deleted.

Despite his odd style, I'm digging Pittara's the most so far.

[Karim]

Very good work from Aztec.
My favorite for now. His holding hands shot is the most powerful so far. Looking forward to see what Joh James came up with.

[Physicdesigns]

pitarras work looks better in this script but honestly imo, he probably has the least basic skills. a lot of his figure work comes off poor to me, his womens faces dont work well, and i think to master his style he needs a more uniform draftmanship and line control, of course numbers say the people dont agree with me so maybe its all in my head.

[dfbovey]

Nice job this round Az.

But damn if Jose' didn't knock this round out of the park. Really impressed.

[Karim]

Jose did some excellent work indeed.
Page 2 is perfect. I really like the panel where he holds hand with the girl in the hockey suit.
On page 3 I don't get that they crashed into the tree though.

Caio did some excellent work also. Very expressive.

[Physicdesigns]

jose really brought his style through to this script well, caio i think had excellent expressiveness, and the dif types of girls and all of thier styles of clothes were very 80s. Cp had another solid entry all around good story telling. Definately a tough round.

Personally i feel wilfredo using the big brush style killed some panels. Still strong work from everyone

[Huerta]

Ciao or CP should should get the most votes this round. CP just went all the way

[joh james]

Everyone really stepped up this round! I think CB Cebulski is going to be pleasantly surprised.:)

[Ugga Bugga]

nice work guys.

This script really played against Az's strengths.

[Keith]

Ok, THIS round shows mostly all these guys deserve to be in, not a truly bad entry in the bunch this round, everyone has hit their groove this time.

Jose kind of broke script a bit again, but his paneling is so outrageously good, and it actually works a little better the way he did it in the end. I have a feeling he'll be fighting for his place this round, get all your friends voting dude, you deserve to be in another round at the very least.

Az you stepped it up well, and it was a good decision to go pencils instead of inks, they carry a kind of intensity/energy in a lot of your pencil-work. I think a little more background work though would have upped the ante for all involved.

CP did a solid job and went above and beyond, the lettering is something I'm mixed about. he did it well for the most part, but I like to see the art carry it's own story, especially for an art competition. He kind of goofed up on the last panel for me (people switching positions.)

[Ra Havok]

My vote'll go to Caio Oliveira. I was not impressed by his 'Aspen' stuff, but this... wow! He made every panel sing.

Jose Holder's pages are -as to be expected- very nice as well. Can't help but feel his style is more suited for something with more action/extraordinary designs.

[Chris Piers]

I think the overall quality is a step up from last week. My favorites are Jose and Caio, easily. Reed and McDaid impressed me though. I'd definitely read something they worked on.

Torres' art looks VERY different to me from last week, though. Did he just approach it differently, or what?

[weirdozhead]

the "calluses that scraped his palm the first time he held someone's hand"? what kind of girls was he going out with?!

i like dan mcdaid's style, i'd like to see it on some vintage type horror stories.. jose's work looks ready for marvel

[joh james]

Wow! Thanks Weirdoz! Now if only if the phone would ring....

[Huerta]

nice work guys.

This script really played against Az's strengths.

Yeah lol. These last 2 have sucked for me, plus I'm just not feeling them. No excuses, just these arent what I'm used to... but thats ok, it is what it is.

[DanielSchenstrom]

the "calluses that scraped his palm the first time he held someone's hand"? what kind of girls was he going out with?!


The field hockey kind?

[Popninja]

the "calluses that scraped his palm the first time he held someone's hand"? what kind of girls was he going out with?!

Maybe he wasn't going out with girls.

[joekey]

i voted last week for Az to show some support :) but i gotta go with Ciao this time, he rly bounced back this round and best represents the script imo. Jose is a close second of course, and CP wilson did great as well, even if the lettering seems unneeded.

[dfbovey]

Looks like there is a new winner of round one due to some voting deviousness.

Wilson is now the winner and Ciao almost got eliminated.

[Physicdesigns]

caio loses no. 1 round win due to votes issues.

[Phil Clark]

While not 100% official, it looks as if Aztek and Wilfredo didn't make it. Sorry Aztek, I would have liked to have seen what you did in coming rounds.

[Ra Havok]

Sorry to see you go, Az. :(


And man, how's it possible that Jose Holder keeps on being underappreciated in those polls?

[Huerta]

While not 100% official, it looks as if Aztek and Wilfredo didn't make it. Sorry Aztek, I would have liked to have seen what you did in coming rounds.

Its cool. As you can see by the amount of votes I got I didnt remind any of my family or friends to vote again. I just dont like the whole vote thingy, plus, I got over it. I'm just laughing now cause the next script is Invincible and thats one of my fav. comics right now.

[dfbovey]

I know, I just read the next assignment and thought that it would have been much more up your alley. A shame that you couldn't have started off on that note to gain momentum.

Also just read that Wya is gonna be a guest judge. Fun stuff to see people from here not only participating, but judging the thing too.

[e_t_i]

Az, do the play-at-home thing and show 'em all! :)

[dfbovey]

Sorry to see you go, Az. :(


And man, how's it possible that Jose Holder keeps on being underappreciated in those polls?

He doesn't have half of Brazil voting for him.

[Huerta]

I know, I just read the next assignment and thought that it would have been much more up your alley. A shame that you couldn't have started off on that note to gain momentum.

Also just read that Wya is gonna be a guest judge. Fun stuff to see people from here not only participating, but judging the thing too.

Even some of my style comes from Ottley. I wouldve made Octoboss nasty looking.. but ah well. I just need to focus on my book now.:)

[dfbovey]

I might do this script just for fun, down the road. Octoboss would be fun to draw.

[Chris Piers]

I really wouldn't feel bad about not winning, Az. The exposure of just being in the contest is pretty great.

[E.J.Su]

And man, how's it possible that Jose Holder keeps on being underappreciated in those polls?You should know by now, this "Idol" stuff is not always about letting the best man wins.

[Huerta]

I really wouldn't feel bad about not winning, Az. The exposure of just being in the contest is pretty great.

Dont feel bad at all. It was all a good experience and the first 2 assignments made me step out of my comfort zones and work under pressure, some what. Now lets all vote for the guy who really desrves it and not the one with the most cousins.

[dfbovey]

My two favorites still in the contest are Jose and Wilson.

But to be honest, Jose really is the only person left in this thing that I'd actually buy a book based on the artwork alone. Everyone else I consider "solid" and Wilson is the best at being "solid".

[Ra Havok]

Wow, is that a great script for Jose or what? I'm very curious to see the results. Lots of freedom in this one.

[joh james]

Wow, is that a great script for Jose or what? I'm very curious to see the results. Lots of freedom in this one.

These guys are never gonna know what hittem'! I almost feel sorry....:rolleyes: Could they have made it any easier for guys like me? This one's for you, Az.:mad:

[Bruce Lee]

You should know by now, this "Idol" stuff is not always about letting the best man wins.

E.J.'s absolutely right. Voting results don't always account for much where taste is concerned.

Sorry to see you didn't make it, Az. I hope the experience benefitted you in other ways though. The scripts didn't play to your artistic strengths--this is very true--but that's the nature of the comic business. You don't always get to draw things you're comfortable drawing, or even want to draw. It pays to be prepared for anything. Hopefully, this experience has helped you figure out some things that will prove helpful to you on future pages.

You should take great pride in being selected for CBI though. I know I'm proud of you. It confirms what most PJers already know about you and your work. You've got a real future in the business if you continue working hard and working on your storytelling skills. We can all sense it's going to happen for you, dude.

Stay humble and keep your nose to the grindstone, amigo. You're "bringin' sexy back." :D

Loston

[bindlestitch]

You should take great pride in being selected for CBI though. I know I'm proud of you. It confirms what most PJers already know about you and your work. You've got a real future in the business if you continue working hard and working on your storytelling skills. We can all sense it's going to happen for you, dude.



Loston

Well said as usual, Loston. And I agree.
Az, you got in the top ten and then some, so you got my respect.
And actually on a side note, any of you guys that had the guts to even submit something have my respect. Here's to ya.
P.S. Go get 'em Jose!

[joh james]

Well said as usual, Loston. And I agree.
Az, you got in the top ten and then some, so you got my respect.
And actually on a side note, any of you guys that had the guts to even submit something have my respect. Here's to ya.
P.S. Go get 'em Jose!

Thanks, Bindle! Az received and will continue to receive the appreciation he deserves. He was picked out as a contender with more than sufficient enough skill to work in the industry. And this can be said of all the top ten in one form or another.

I think it's incumbent upon you(AZ) to continue in the Play-At-Home thread because although the main stage may be about popularity, the PAH isn't. Just about the art, baby! As far as I'm concerned my involvement in this contest is about exposure, and CBI excels at doing just that!

[DanielSchenstrom]

What? If you're gonna expose yourself I'm not voting for you again ;)

[joh james]

What? If you're gonna expose yourself I'm not voting for you again ;)

Ha! Tres cute!:D

[W.Blankenship]

I'm doing the assignment for the Play at home thread for this one. I posted the first page:

Invincible page (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=193773&page=18)

Also posted it in the Sequential Art forum.

3!LL

[Ra Havok]

I'm pleasantly surprised with Dan McDaid's entry.

[dfbovey]

Nick's pages made me chuckle. And I'm really digging Jose's work in this round again.

[joh james]

Let's hope the masses feel the same. It's a slightly different style than my norm. Otherwise, it'll be my swan song...

[Ra Havok]

Pitarra definitely gets extra points for the bird-subplot!

Caio Oliveira's page 2 is very unique, and the special lay-out works well.

CP Wilson's page 1 is bland, but the other two pages make up for that. Very clear storytelling.

Jose, if it's up to me, this isn't your swan song. I'll be voting for you. There are a couple of things that interrupt the flow of the story. Some panels that lead the viewer the wrong way etc., but overall, the awesome-ness prevails. (You drew the best page 2, if you were to ask me.)


By the way, on page 2, the "Rookie" made me LOL. Great touch.

[Huerta]

I feel these guys work better on things that arent Superhero stories. Dan can do some pulp/ol' school stuff but the rest I wouldnt want on any superhero stuff.

[lost-spartan]

Nice work Jose! I dig the Invincible pages almost as much as your first round stuff, which fookin' rocked by the by. The only thing that didn't work for me this round was Invincible's off-model design which Wya already articulated much better than I could, but other than that really nice pages. Fingers crossed for ya bud:D

[joh james]

Thanks, gang. The off design look was calculated. Trust me. I really wanted to have fun and go in what I'll freely admit was a completely different direction. The chances I do take are for the purposes of getting people talking. Be it good or bad. They would never be done in a working environment without approval. I've worked too long as a professional illustrator to be that lax. It's all entertainment and meant in the spirit of good, clean, fun.

[dfbovey]

I can appreciate that approach, but I think that's where you walk the fine line of people possibly not giving you their vote because they aren't looking at it the same way. Even though this contest is nothing like a real working environment, the majority of the voters seem to either think it is or vote as if they were wearing an editor's hat in that environment.

Either that, or they just vote for their friends. :)

I don't think you have anything to worry about either way. I think if you want a career in comics you can have one, regardless of the outcome of CBI.

[joekey]

Voted for Jose of course, but he is currently last place atm so i hope more of u guys can log on and help him catch up :)

[Justice41]

I didn't like anyone's entries. In fact there are a couple of guys in the Play at home who kicked some ass on the last two assignments. I guess what Wya said is true for some, that drawing a guy in tights is a tough thing for some.

[dfbovey]

I voted for Jose, because I think it's nuts that he's in last place and in any danger of being eliminated.

[E.J.Su]

Didn't like any of them, but voted for Jose only because he is a Penciljacker and probably his overall skill is more mature than the others; however, for the record, not that it means anything, I think Jose REALLY shouldn't have intentionally stay off model.

[Justice41]

Yeah it may be a bold thing to do but you irked Wya and that may have played against you Jose. Still voted for you. Oh and in the Future, Hellboy does not have shoulders, in other words, stay on model. It really does piss off creators when you willy nilly just decide to do whatever.
This kid over at the play at home is kicking it out.

Had to rush this out.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/invinc0001.jpg


http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/invinc0002.jpg


http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Vignarajesan/invinc0003.jpg

I'm familiar with the comic but not a reader. If the characters are off, i apologize in advance.

[dfbovey]

Yeah...

Vig and Kam both did a really nice job in the play at home threads.

[dfbovey]

Looks like Jose will be eliminated along with Reed in this round. Unless there is a surge of voting in their favor over the next few hours.

[Ra Havok]

Darnit. There goes my favorite.

[Huerta]

SHouldve stayed on model. The changes really bugged me aswell.

[Saturn Lad]

Interesting tip from Silvestri in his critique for Wilson.


One thing I teach the new guys at Top Cow is NOT to grid buildings in the layout stage but to look at them as more organic shapes and groupings. More like gesture drawing a forest of trees. Once you get nicely flowing groups and shapes THEN add the grid and make the lines add up. What this does is it frees up the mind to not think in boring straight lines that create a kind of Lego city. You can do this with interiors as well.

[Justice41]

One thing I teach the new guys at Top Cow is NOT to grid buildings in the layout stage but to look at them as more organic shapes and groupings. More like gesture drawing a forest of trees. Once you get nicely flowing groups and shapes THEN add the grid and make the lines add up. What this does is it frees up the mind to not think in boring straight lines that create a kind of Lego city. You can do this with interiors as well.
Yeah, already do this. This helps to avoid those extreme angles most newbs always draw.

[e_t_i]

Too late to save Jose, trying to save Nick.

[Huerta]

Too late to save Jose, trying to save Nick.

Vote for the better illustrators.

[Justice41]

Jose and Nick are gone. Jose for sure but nick may be saved if there's any shenanigans to be found.

[Karim]

Caio is the best of this round imo. And also the best of the ones left if he keeps up with the quality his been providing.
I don't get how come Dan McCaid made it so far?
Too bad for Jose, was my fav with Caio.

[e_t_i]

Vote for the better illustrators.

I like Nick's work. I like Jose's too.

[Justice41]

Caio is the best of this round imo. And also the best of the ones left if he keeps up with the quality his been providing.
I don't get how come Dan McCaid made it so far?
Too bad for Jose, was my fav with Caio.

Never liked Caio's stuff from the beginning. It's amateur hour with his stuff. But too each his own.

[Karim]

Ok with the each his own part, but amateur?
That's a bit of a stretch.

His stuff is easy to read and dynamic. I'm curious to what you dislike in his work?
And wich would be your fav?

[bfowler]

Jose is the one you'll find doing this consistently for a living if he chooses. I'm would not be surprised it he already had some offers. In one of the rounds Marc Silvestri said he wouldn't mind having him on staff.

In my opinion the guy is easily the best illustrator by far with the most marketable style. Him not getting the most votes every single round reminds me of how everyone went crazy bitching about Marko when he did those X-men redesigns. Now, Marko has done like 70 or 80 covers for Marvel in the last year alone as well as other work. I see Jose in the same fashion. He might not be the one getting the votes but he'll be the one getting paid.

[dfbovey]

Ok with the each his own part, but amateur?
That's a bit of a stretch.

His stuff is easy to read and dynamic. I'm curious to what you dislike in his work?
And wich would be your fav?

I wouldn't say it was amateur, but it's certainly not art I'd buy a book for. His art would have to be on some material that I'd be reading for the story or attached to a really good writer to where I didn't really care about visuals.

[FIG]

Joses work is strong because its dynamic, style-wise it looks different than any of the others with his strong use of shading and the fact he uses Invincibles hair to make it look dynamic. Plus his layouts are the best out of the 6 artists hands down because of the fact he is playing with size, shape and good foreshortening of the main character.

McDaid is drawing Invincible like a kid so that to me is not something I dig because hes a college student like Spiderman and his style is a bit too loose for my taste. On the positive his work reminds me a bit of Erik Larsens linework.

Olivieras work is just plain clean and easy to follow so to me thats always better.

Pitarras work echoes Jorge Lucas and Geof Darrows work with no use of blacks and a large level of detail. Not sure of thats a good thing though.

Reed, I really like the way he draws but his storytelling needs work.

Wilson also has a nice style but that first panel kills it for me. Its way to posed and rehearsed and looks cheesy. The rest of the work is great though.

In my opinion for round 3, I'd say Jose is easily the winner if he gets an inker who can clean his style up without killing the penciling job. Olivieras would get second place and Wilson would get #3.

[bindlestitch]

I see Jose in the same fashion. He might not be the one getting the votes but he'll be the one getting paid.

Yeah, I agree. Wya basically said the same thing in his crit to Jose. I'd say he'll have no trouble getting work.

Congrats on making so far Jose and here's hoping you have a new career in comics.

[joh james]

Thanks gang! The fat lady's singing and it was a hell of a run! Thanks to each of you for your support, regardless of whatever form it came in. The future's unwritten right now, but I have hope that good things are on the horizon for all of us. And I'll make sure everyone knows "when" and "if" I hit the big time.

[Justice41]

Ok with the each his own part, but amateur?
That's a bit of a stretch.

His stuff is easy to read and dynamic. I'm curious to what you dislike in his work?
And wich would be your fav?

None of them really jumped out at me. Maybe Jose and Wilson. Caio's stuff just looked like amateur indy crap to me. Never liked it or Jon Reed(sp) I'm just not into cartoony looking comic art. Not my cup o java.

[dfbovey]

Thanks gang! The fat lady's singing and it was a hell of a run! Thanks to each of you for your support, regardless of whatever form it came in. The future's unwritten right now, but I have hope that good things are on the horizon for all of us. And I'll make sure everyone knows "when" and "if" I hit the big time.

Cool man. Keep us informed!

[Phil Clark]

And I'll make sure everyone knows "when" and "if" I hit the big time.

Oh, it will be WHEN not IF. And WHEN you get your first job, I need to find it and buy it. Your good dude.

[dfbovey]

The final 4 have posted their art up for this round.

[Ra Havok]

It's either Oliveira or Wilson for me.

[Huerta]

CPW draws well but his work on superheroes is pretty boring. They just look like reg. folk in costumes.

I like Olievera and Dan.

[Chris Piers]

Wow, all 4 stepped up a lot for this round.

[dfbovey]

I was looking forward to Dan's, but imo what he did on the last page was kinda stale and boring. I was expecting more.

I thought Wilson and Olivera did a better job with page 4. I liked the world Olivera created as a whole but there are parts of Wilson's work that I appreciate more. I think Wilson needed to establish the space relationship to the robot and the bridge to show that the young alien was in more immediate danger. A cool up shot at the alien looking up at the robot before the bridge is destroyed would have been better.

Reed drew a cool robot. And it was definitely his best work of the contest.

I think I'd rate them:

1- Olivera
2- Wilson
3- Reed
4- McDaid

Although Olivera and Wilson are close, and I don't know which I'll actually vote for.

[Karim]

1. Oliveira By far the best storytelling.
2. Reed
3. Wilson
4. Mc Daid

[Justice41]

They all kinda suck again this turn, Wilson's still the better illustrator.

[Karim]

well he's obviously very good since he made it this far, but I find his style to be very generic and cold.
Just my taste, not discarding his talent or anything.

[50%grey]

Mc Daid put the weekest of the 4 entries, he needs to be voted off the island :D

[dfbovey]

I've seen some of Wilson's other work over at ten ton that seems to have more flavor to it.

[Karim]

Mc Daid put the weekest of the 4 entries, he needs to be voted off the island :D

He should have been voted off sooner. It doesn't make sense that he is still competing when Jose is out.:rolleyes:


I've seen some of Wilson's other work over at ten ton that seems to have more flavor to it.

Mind posting a link?
I'm curious.

[FIG]

Its undoubtedly Charles Paul Wilson III for the win. His work is dynamic, the layout and storytelling are much better than everyone else and the last shot is great.

[Justice41]

I bet Vig and Kamgates blows them all out of the water in the play at home section.

[dfbovey]

Mind posting a link?
I'm curious.

http://www.tentonstudios.com/forum/index.php?topic=3684.0

I think he's got alot of talent that hasn't really been on display in this contest. Or maybe I just like his work because it's similar to what I do with tones and watercolors, so I can relate to it.

[Karim]

it does have more flavor but still nothing interesting to me. Thx for the link

[dfbovey]

I bet Vig and Kamgates blows them all out of the water in the play at home section.

Both of those guys did some very awesome Invincible pages. I don't think either one has posted anything for this round though.

Kam's invincible would have easily been the best in the last round.

[dfbovey]

it does have more flavor but still nothing interesting to me. Thx for the link

Not even this?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/cpw3art/theblackcoat72dpi.jpg

Cause that's pretty damn awesome, if you ask me.

[Karim]

It is a nice piece. But I'm still not excited at all by the style.
It just doesn't have a distinct look to it.
btw what I meant by "nothing interesting to me" was about his style not a particular piece.

[dfbovey]

Probably the same thing people say about my work. But then again it's probably personal preference... cause I'd buy a book with artwork like that in it.

[E.J.Su]

No doubt CPW's has the best illustration skill, but I don't like his storytelling and camera choices that much.

[Justice41]

the last page could have been better. I would have liked to have seen an Alex Ross like looking from below as the Legion flew overhead as the little alien smiled like a monkey, shot.

[dfbovey]

Yeah, to me... all of the artists this round dropped the ball on page 4. The characters should all be postured as if they are ready to attack the robot. None of them really caught the tension that I think should have been in that shot. The way they're all just standing around, you'd never know that there was a giant robot attacking the city in the previous 3 pages or that chaos is about to ensue on the next page after it.

[lost-spartan]

I like Oliviera's stuff the best of this four, but his page 4 looks like a class photos being taken of the characters. Does anyone else dislike artists having to put boxes/highlights around certain things to draw the eye to something important like in his first panel on pg. 2? I can't stand artists doing that. To me, if you need to do that, you need to redo your panel to have the eye naturally/easily find the important information of the panel.

[dfbovey]

I like Oliviera's stuff the best of this four, but his page 4 looks like a class photos being taken of the characters. Does anyone else dislike artists having to put boxes/highlights around certain things to draw the eye to something important like in his first panel on pg. 2? I can't stand artists doing that. To me, if you need to do that, you need to redo your panel to have the eye naturally/easily find the important information of the panel.

Yeah, I agree. I thought the border around the alien the way he had it was pretty annoying.

[Justice41]

I don't like Oliviera's stuff, so it all didn't work for me.

[Ra Havok]

http://cbi.comicbookresources.com/cbi3/round-4-final-results/

Oliveira and McDaid out,

Wilson and Reed finalists.

[Spidey]

I don't like Reed's stuff at all. He has good story-telling, but I can't make myself like his art. His alien "boy"looked more like a geezer alien. I'm rooting for CPW3.

[Karim]

sucks
Can't believe Oliveira lost because of 3 miserable votes. Damn.
If you look at the voting you see clearly that there was a top 3 and McDaid wasn't part of it. Still think he should have been kicked out earlier. First Jose now Oliveira...Hope Reed wins.:(



Charles Paul Wilson III 245
Jon Reed 232
Caio Oliveira 229
Dan McDaid 114

[lost-spartan]

Yeah that 3 vote difference is rough, but dems da breaks I suppose!

What do they win besides the trip to NYC??

[dfbovey]

It's a shame some stupid people decided to try to stuff the ballot box when they knew the judges were watching for that kind of thing. Olivera could have made it into the final round on his own merit.

[FIG]

Yeah, what a shame. The contest should be judged by pros alone, not by lots of people because it turns into a popularity contest.

[Justice41]

Thank god Oliviera's gone. The contest would have been invalid in my mind if he won. His art was just amateur hour. Man couldn't draw a car or building that looked like a building or car to save his life.

[Karim]

Oliveira rules you.

[Justice41]

Oliviera will be a fading ember in a few days....in fact who?;)

[Karim]

:D

Btw you have a rich vocabulary you know that?
I very rarely go to the dictionary for english anymore, but most of the time I do go is because of one of your posts. You got me with "ember" this time.

Anyway I hope he won't be a fading ember and will get some work.
Looking forward to the final round although it lost some appeal because my favs are gone.

[Justice41]

Yeah, I don't wish the guy ill. He had the cajones to step up and compete in a million viewer internet art contest. I just wanted to bust chops on his fanbase. I believe Marc Silvestri's last critique really did him in. I think Wilson got by on skill alone because his storytelling needs some polish.
Oliviera will have some success if he so chooses to accept it.

[joh james]

Here's a little tribute piece for you guys. Slash pin-up/Thank You/Submission.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/johjames/cbrthanksweb.jpg

[FIG]

Nice work, lots of heroes there.

[Dri]

Not to discredit the people left on Comic Book Idol but I couldn't see it as anything but a popularity contest.

Jose Holder/ Joh James - Kind of a shame that you went off model for the Invincible work because I felt you offered more than the rest. But you just didn't know enough people to get votes and it reflected in the polls throughout the competition. Nowhere near the right gauge to see who did the better pages.

Please post more of your work here though. It's been a while.

[joh james]

Sure thing, Green. The off-model thing was a stab at being playful. Some people saw it as insubordination! Ha! Too bad, really. I grew up on artists who did takes on your favorite character from month to month. It was so exciting to see different artists renditions on the traditional look. Let's hope those days aren't gone forever! Wolverine and Batman underwent so many masterful looks that they became a haven for the voices of a new generation. Ahh well....



Not to discredit the people left on Comic Book Idol but I couldn't see it as anything but a popularity contest.

Jose Holder/ Joh James - Kind of a shame that you went off model for the Invincible work because I felt you offered more than the rest. But you just didn't know enough people to get votes and it reflected in the polls throughout the competition. Nowhere near the right gauge to see who did the better pages.

Please post more of your work here though. It's been a while.

[Justice41]

Here's a little tribute piece for you guys. Slash pin-up/Thank You/Submission.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/johjames/cbrthanksweb.jpg

Yeah that's as dull as the other guys did Jose. Nice drawing but boring storytelling.

[joh james]

Didn't know "Thank You Notes" needed to tell stories, Justice. Guess a little "tact" is too much to ask from the enlightened.

[Justice41]

I have no tact and it is the splash from the Legion story and it's as dull as the others. Nicely drawn, but still dull. Being nice is for others.

[FIG]

I wouldn't even worry nor care what Justice says sometimes. Don't take his comments seriously, hes only here to push your buttons for a laugh.

[Karim]

Very cool piece joh james.
It really sucks that you didn't win this, if you ask me you should have made it first and Caio second. But heh you both got kicked out too early in the competition.
Anyway let us know when you score a gig in comics, and meanwhile post your art in the various section of this board. I'll keep an eye out for it.

[joh james]

Very cool piece joh james.
It really sucks that you didn't win this, if you ask me you should have made it first and Caio second. But heh you both got kicked out too early in the competition.
Anyway let us know when you score a gig in comics, and meanwhile post your art in the various section of this board. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Thanks Karim, Fig. I'll definitely keep you in the loop as to material coming out on my end. I do have an issue of the Sire Revelations due out end of the month, but you have to order it or get your retailer to put one aside for you. The rest will be out by next year. Ciao, dudes.

[jeremy dale]

The last round is Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends? VERY cool-- I did samples of that subject for Wizardworld Chicago and had TONS of fun working on them... and it got me the Marvel and DC callbacks, as I've mentioned before. Looking forward to seeing their last round of pages!

- jeremy

[Logan]

yeah, just ice 4 1 is a synonym for uber-troll round these parts. don't let him get to you and he'll go back to hiding under his bridge before too long.

[Justice41]

yeah, just ice 4 1 is a synonym for uber-troll round these parts. don't let him get to you and he'll go back to hiding under his bridge before too long.

Never and people need to hear the honest truth. Arrogance will get you nowhere except booted from contests you should have won handily.

[lost-spartan]

It's also hard to win a talent contest not based on talent as well:(

[Logan]

Never and people need to hear the honest truth. Arrogance will get you nowhere except booted from contests you should have won handily.

truth is relative, my dear troll. arrogance can also be perceived as believing that your own personal opinions are the only ones that matter, and that anyone disagreeing with them is a fool. that doesn't mean that i wish to silence you, in fact your "truths" have as much right to be expressed as anyone else's. it is simply that given the mean-spirited nature of the majority of your critiques i choose to take them with a grain of salt.

[Justice41]

It's also hard to win a talent contest not based on talent as well:(

Yup, agree with this I do.

[Justice41]

truth is relative, my dear troll. arrogance can also be perceived as believing that your own personal opinions are the only ones that matter, and that anyone disagreeing with them is a fool. that doesn't mean that i wish to silence you, in fact your "truths" have as much right to be expressed as anyone else's. it is simply that given the mean-spirited nature of the majority of your critiques i choose to take them with a grain of salt.

That's your perception and the only time anyone perceives any critique as mean spirited is when it's right to the point and correct. Arrogant people don't want to hear truths, only gushing praise. I never gush. Take note how an arrogant person always schluffs off critique by deflecting.

[Logan]

lol. i must have missed the "do not feed the trolls" sign on my way to PJ today. lesson learned.

http://guy.troll.free.fr/images/Bannieres/Troll.jpg

[FIG]

Never and people need to hear the honest truth. Arrogance will get you nowhere except booted from contests you should have won handily.

http://matyys1.webpark.pl/profile_dude.jpg

Dude, your opinion is not fact which means you are not giving him the truth. You're only expressing your perspective and your own comments come off as arrogant. Plus, keeping artists away from this forum is a bad thing, not a good thing.

[Justice41]

My opinions are my facts.

[lost-spartan]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/lost-spartan/big_lebowski_walter_gun.jpg

"F*ck it, Dude, let's go bowling." :cool:

[bindlestitch]

My opinions are my facts.

Man, If there is any signature you should ever have, it's that. heh

[Justice41]

Gotta love people who critique your critique and get mad when you don't accept there critique but then tell you your critiques are just opinions yet theirs critiques must be facts. F'ing hilarious. Oh and don't get me laughing, I'm painting nipples and need my hands steady.

[Chico Blue]

Guys, I don't think you understand.

Justice is providing a service to us all. Listen to what he has to say.

Hang around him long enough and your skin will be thicker than yo momma after Thanksgiving dinner.

[Justice41]

My mother... She wasa Sainta, her turkey she was a succulenta.. how darea youa makea funa ofa mya mothersa turkey skina.....She was a Sainta.





















Seinfeld ref.

[FIG]

See, Justice 41 is not to be taken serious. Hes not a bad guy even if he has a strong, overbearing opinion. Ultimately, he means well even if he can occasionally be a dick like the rest of us.

[Logan]

That's your perception and the only time anyone perceives any critique as mean spirited is when it's right to the point and correct. Arrogant people don't want to hear truths, only gushing praise. I never gush. Take note how an arrogant person always schluffs off critique by deflecting.

yeah, just where the hell do i get off? calling someone's work "amateur hour" is the epitome of a well meaning and constructive critique..:rolleyes:

[Justice41]

Did Oliviera post his art here? No, so my view was not a critique just a plain ole observation based on my likes and dislikes. And it was amateur hour. Oliviera wasn't ready for prime time by a far stretch.

[dfbovey]

Both finalists have posted up their entries.

[FIG]

Did Oliviera post his art here? No, so my view was not a critique just a plain ole observation based on my likes and dislikes. And it was amateur hour. Oliviera wasn't ready for prime time by a far stretch.

We get it. We already heard your opinion but I'd be curious to see how you take comments about your own work by the very same people you judge. As for Round 5, I think Charles Paul Wilson III has this one.

[Ra Havok]

CP Wilson III FTW.

[dfbovey]

CP Wilson III FTW.

I liked everything but his cover.

Looked like a last minute collage and the colors tints look muddy and unpolished.

Neither one of them really did a cover that grabs my attention.

CWP had the stronger interior pages.

[amadarwin]

Both finalists have posted up their entries.

And neither have proved to me they deserve to be there with what they have. Where's their 'A' game?

I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed with their efforts. Reed should win handily though this round. By a landslide.

[lost-spartan]

And neither have proved to me they deserve to be there with what they have. Where's their 'A' game?

Agreed. Neither of them did anything that would stand out enough to warrant them being on a regular book of any stature. I don't get how Reed got as far as the final round, but then this isn't about talent, is it?

Wilson's cover wasn't much, but is was a helluva a lot more than Reed scrapped together, as were his pages. I guess I want Wilson to win, but this whole thing has been weak sauce from the get go. They need to get rid of public voting, and just have a set number of pros judging the rounds.

[Justice41]

Wow!! What a pair of stinkers these guys shat out. The time crunch really did them in I suppose.

[Ra Havok]

4 pages and a cover in three days?
Uhm?

I really think that what they did was quite an achievement, and I personally think that CP Wilson and especially Jose Holder have it in them to do some nice stuff in the comic book field.

I wish them success.

[Justice41]

Yeah Wilson can do some really nice stuff. He's posted some over at DW as well as Jose. But these guys rushed these pages out and they look it.
I feel no pity for them, they got into the contest and this is what it will be like when they get that first assignment. Rush rush rush hurry hurry hurry fix fix fix redo redo redo. Real Life.

[Huerta]

I still dont understand why Wilson does the lettering. He's trying to get a job as penciler, not letterer. I know he's trying to show off but that wont make your pencils look better.

[dfbovey]

4 pages and a cover in three days?
Uhm?

I really think that what they did was quite an achievement, and I personally think that CP Wilson and especially Jose Holder have it in them to do some nice stuff in the comic book field.

I wish them success.

I agree on all counts.

It's also an extra burden to try to come up with a story to draw as part of the assignment within an already tight deadline. I don't think it's something I would have enjoyed doing.

[amadarwin]

Granted, 4 pages, a cover and a story in three days is no easy task, but one of them coulda ran away with it. I'm just disappointed that they both laid out some duds instead. After looking at the pages again, I recant my statement regarding Reed.

Flipping a coin for the vote won't net you a better talent than the other imo.

[bushiboy]

I'm still not sure why they had this as the last assignment, other than to see how much shit you can take before killing your editor.

[joh james]

I think time will always be a factor in this industry. These guys did some stellar work under duress, even, and though I can't really drill anyone for storytelling without more definitive topic matter, the linework and quality are tight for 4 days work. My hat's off. Ciao stole the show on this one, IMO. I look forward to posting some pages myself on Wednesday.

[FIG]

I think they should of had 5 days to draw which equates to a page a day. Rushing them for a hypothetical situation where they have to shit out 5 pages in 3 days is silly. Who wants to work in comics if you have to crap out work which is rushed? I'd rather have a quality book than a rushed story. Either way, I think both artists did a great job within the given time frame.

[50%grey]

They asked for to much for the kind of quality the public was expecting.

[nate lovett]

i disagree about it not being enough time. there's plenty of times when you're going to have to get an insane amount of stuff done to meet a deadline. it's the nature of the business, especially if you're just breaking in.

[FIG]

Well I am sure you talk and know from experience but you also have a much simpler and cartoony style nate.

[Justice41]

They could have kept it simple and use less panels. They choose to make it hard on themselves by adding so much. K.I.S.S is the way to go.

[jeremy dale]

Well I am sure you talk and know from experience but you also have a much simpler and cartoony style nate.

No excuse-- I'm doing the same or more. If you have the deadline, you hit it. Period.

[nate lovett]

Well I am sure you talk and know from experience but you also have a much simpler and cartoony style nate.


yeah, i do, but just because it's "simpler" and "cartoony" doesn't mean it's any easier.

[bindlestitch]

yeah, i do, but just because it's "simpler" and "cartoony" doesn't mean it's any easier.

Very true. Sometimes I think it's harder because you don't have a lot of rendering or shadows to cover up mistakes or things you don't want to draw.

[jeremy dale]

Very true. Sometimes I think it's harder because you don't have a lot of rendering or shadows to cover up mistakes or things you don't want to draw.

And to be fair, he also inks and colors his work on Xombie, so he's doing it ALL on that.

[Justice41]

Art is not ,"simple".

[Karim]

I must admit that wilson came up with the best entry this time

[jeremy dale]

The best entry this time around looks to be in the "Play at Home" thread.

- jeremy

[FIG]

No excuse-- I'm doing the same or more. If you have the deadline, you hit it. Period.

Yeah, ultimately its all about the deadlines. I realize this but they should have been given a story then. I mean you are going for putting these guys in a realistic situation right? Thats what this is all about? -Then these guys should be put in situations where they are hired as pencilers only, not inkers, colorists, letterers and writers. :D


yeah, i do, but just because it's "simpler" and "cartoony" doesn't mean it's any easier.

I never said it was easier but I think that it can be more efficient and thereby quicker to accomplish the same given task. Less work to me does not equate to something being easier, it just means it takes less time but its still hard work. Also, don't take my comment as an attack on you, nate. I realize how an economical style that is simpler and cartoony can be a wise choice and I am not saying its any less worthy than a detailed, more realistic style. I love a variety of styles and sometimes, its harder to not put so much detail in ones work and be more economical with linework. I struggle with this every day as I redraw pages from my childrens book


The best entry this time around looks to be in the "Play at Home" thread.

- jeremy


Ciaos stuff is awesome. Heres a link guys (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=193773&page=28)

[Karim]

The best entry this time around looks to be in the "Play at Home" thread.

- jeremy

Yeah what Caio did in there is better than what the finalists did but that's no surprise. Also the page creature boy has posted is tight.

[Justice41]

Sami and Kamgates did a great job and Creature Boy's first page is solid. Oliviera's last page is nice.

[50%grey]

Ciao by far did the best job, I love the design on his cover

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/CaioZed/cover.jpg

[dfbovey]

IMO, Kam would have walked away with this thing if they had included him in the final 10.

[Chico Blue]

Would've been cooler if one of the reflections wasn't facing the wrong way.

[Justice41]

Pishhh didn't that artist that does kissy faces do that for a DC book?
http://www.architecturalartz.com/images/jlae2h.jpg

[E.J.Su]

Ciao by far did the best job, I love the design on his coverIt's not bad, but the perspective is WAY off.

[FIG]

Woah, Sami has some slick, old-school looking work. Kam has 2 good sequential pages which would have gotten lots of votes as well.

[50%grey]

Pishhh didn't that artist that does kissy faces do that for a DC book?
http://www.architecturalartz.com/images/jlae2h.jpg


Heh Justice , the duality reflection thing has been done many many times over the course of art history.



It's not bad, but the perspective is WAY off.

Not if peter is standing on his tipy toes, or maybe he wears high heal boots like prince =P


One thing that kills Ciao's artwork is the horrible inking job he does, he makes the matter worse doing it all digital inks.

He needs to let someone else do his inking for him that understands how to put texture on surfaces.

[E.J.Su]

Peter is the least of its problem though.

[Justice41]

Bad thing about Oliviera's cover is the reflected images are not even related to the figures reflecting them nor are they in the proper perspective. Plus spidey's squatting while Peter's standing.

[KRAZYRICKY1]

I would of voted for Oliviera to win, but oh well I can't

[joh james]

My pages are up in the PAH section, if anyone wants to see them. Looks like a nail-biter of a show over there at CBR. Vote early and avoid the wait!
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/johjames/pinupcoverweb.jpg

[Karim]

Aside from the sun rays shooting through the clouds while the sun is on the horizon at the same time, it is tight.

[joh james]

Aside from the sun rays shooting through the clouds while the sun is on the horizon at the same time, it is tight.

Good eyes, K! I had the chance to edit it and thought, "O what the hell! Leave it!" Might be good for a laugh. I'm laughing on the inside.

[dfbovey]

With 2 and a half hours left, Jon Reed is ahead by 3 votes.

[dfbovey]

Depending on how many votes are cancelled out due to people stuffing the ballot, it looks like Jon Reed has won CBI.

[Chris Piers]

Let's hear it for the local guy, eh?

[dfbovey]

Let's hear it for the local guy, eh?

Yeah, that's kinda cool. I'm kinda surprised I've never run into you anywhere Chris.

[dfbovey]

And it's official. Reed is the winner!

[Justice41]

Yeah, after Jose got the boot I lost interest.

[joh james]

Yeah, after Jose got the boot I lost interest.

Thanks, Justice. It's all good. The better man won and congrats to him. Jon deserves it.

[Chris Piers]

I forgot you were a denizen here, David! Did I ever tell you about my artist group? We meet every month at Dremo's in Arlington. We drink and draw jam comics and work on self-published books together. Sometimes we go on field trips to cons or comic book museums. We're meeting this Sunday and I think Jon will be there too.

www.dcconspiracy.com
Hope you can make it. You might be surprised at how many talented artists and real, published by real publisher books we have. The offer extends to all in the area.

[dfbovey]

I forgot you were a denizen here, David! Did I ever tell you about my artist group? We meet every month at Dremo's in Arlington. We drink and draw jam comics and work on self-published books together. Sometimes we go on field trips to cons or comic book museums. We're meeting this Sunday and I think Jon will be there too.

www.dcconspiracy.com
Hope you can make it. You might be surprised at how many talented artists and real, published by real publisher books we have. The offer extends to all in the area.

Cool deal, Chris! That's very cool. I probably won't be able to make it this weekend with family coming into town for the holidays. But this is definitely something I'd like to be a part of.

Thanks for the link!

[Phil Clark]

Thanks, Justice. It's all good. The better man won and congrats to him. Jon deserves it.

No, perhaps a more mainstream and more popular man won, but the better artist (you) got ripped. I love your style man, and can't wait to pick up your first published book. Let us know when that is happening.

[joh james]

No, perhaps a more mainstream and more popular man won, but the better artist (you) got ripped. I love your style man, and can't wait to pick up your first published book. Let us know when that is happening.

YEAH! I GOT RIPPED...Er...I mean... your vote of confidence is greatly appreciated... Ahem. Thanks, Phil. Let's hope it translates into jobs and sales for all of the TopTen. And as for my book, I just got my first full book published in August called The Sire: Revelations 2. TSR:3 is coming out the end of November but you'll have to ask your retailer(or order from Mikebooks.com). I'm excited to start my werewolf story this week and due out in 2008. Slow and steady wins the race. Thanks, bros.

[Justice41]

Jose ya gots ta Pimp harder than that Man. Links, samples, give us the whole spiel.

[FIG]

Yeah, lets see what you got going on! We have to root for you and know what to buy when it hits the shelves because lots of us are visual types.