X-MEN 3 Great! but...

[BlackFOOT]

WARNING: POSTS IN THIS TOPIC ARE GOING TO MENTION EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MOVIE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE ENDING OR VITAL PARTS OF THE MOVIE THEN don't read!!!!!

Hey all. I saw the movie on thursday - opening night in Australia and I thought it was awesome. But I have a few little rants like:

Where was NIGHT CRAWLER!?! ( a personal favourite of mine)

Angel should have joined the X-men I reckon (he watched em leaving for alcatraz and didn't do anything (until he saved his father randomly) - i reckon he should have suited up and gone with them and fought in the heroic last stand AND still have savewd his father.

So what do you guys think? If you have any good rants or any comments and stuff you wished was in there (or wasn't) then here we can discuss!

[theycallmemisterbob]

So.. did EVERYONE like the movie? Was there anyone that DIDNT like it? *raises hand meekly*

I did like Rebecca. Blue or white, she was perfect. They couldve put another 20 minutes of her in.

[WillTerrell]

I was really upset with the characters that they killed off. And especially with how they did it. It was pretty retarded. Especially Prof X.

I also thought the character developement was WEAK on all counts, and what the hell was going on with Rogue through this movie? It's like the director didn't like the character but couldn't get her completely written out, so he just sidelined her with a really weak storyline with Kitty pride, who would have been better withOUT the psuedo romance with Iceman.

There were so many inconsistancies and weak motivations in this movie that I wanted to walk out 2/3 into it.

...other than that I enjoyed it.

[BlackFOOT]

about the whole Kitty Pride thing. She was just an excuse for Night crawler (I mean she can run through walls and he can portal through walls). Rouge was a bit weak too I must admit. Though the whole Xavier thing I didn't mind too much. The Last Stand was a climax of all three and it was inevitable that in a 'war' that there be casualties (Cyclops *snicker* - he deserved it!)

[WillTerrell]

But it didn't even feel like a war. Maybe a little skirmish, a micro-battle per se. But not a war. The storytelling was just really weak in this. There were too many "convenient scenes" just to move the story along. Like where pyro and iceman just "happened" to show up at the same time at the clinic, and he just blows it up! The whole set up and timing for that was just lame. This movie just frustrated me. I really liked the first two. But the storytelling on this was totally phoned in.

[Huerta]

Screw Nightcrawler, WHERE's BISHOP?!?!

[Screamus]

The movie sucked.
There was no character development.
The change in directors was obvious-Do we REALLY need to see storms eyes light up when she uses her powers? Did they get a smaller budget? (the particle effects were huge...and cheesy).
The lower contrast compared to part two made this one seem more like a home movie.
And did all the budget get saved for the last battle scene?

Enough about the technicalaspects of it,
The first %75 of the movie was just plain boring.

On the bright side, I got to see the ghostrider trailer for the first time on the big screen. It actually looks awesome. The graphics seem to have withstood the test of time (since it's been finished for so long). His skull still looks a bit like clay though. Hopefully post preduction would fix it.

Oh yeah, X3.
It sucked.
Lineup also wasn't very interesting.
Predictable.
Some effects were horrid.
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[[TLG]_Spider-Wal]

yeah i got a real sorry feeling for Xavier when he was slowly dematerialising though.... it was hard....
At first i thought... what is happening to him ? What are all these little bits... clothes ? no.... skin and stuff... AAAAAARGH
Cyclops didn't really matter to me though...

What i do think is that Wolverine never could heal instantly (Shortly there-after yes, but not right away) but at the end where he needs to get up to phoenix on the rubblepile... he just does... even though he's getting torn off all the flesh to his ademantium skeleton... why didn't phoenix just toast his heart.... that's not made of adamantium right ? She still could've killed him. Ow well... glad he made it.

I totally loved the quote juggernaut did on the internet movie..
my question is : does juggernaut yell at any point in the series or comics "don't you know who i am ? I'm the juggernaut bitch" ?
Otherwise i TOTALLY loved it when he said that.

[-Spider-]

[WillTurner]

For the most part I thought the film was great. Vinnie Jones played Juggernaut like he is- a big lunkhead who runs at people...and that's great!

The worst thing is that the film was too short, thus compressing a lot of good ideas into too short a time. But I personally thought there was some clever effects, nice moments...and Kelsey Grammer was awesome as Beast!

[thEbrEEze]

I agree with Screamus. Dissapoinment through and through! The writers here at PJ could've written it better. Blah!

[BlackFOOT]

_Spider-Wal']

What i do think is that Wolverine never could heal instantly (Shortly there-after yes, but not right away) but at the end where he needs to get up to phoenix on the rubblepile... he just does... even though he's getting torn off all the flesh to his ademantium skeleton... why didn't phoenix just toast his heart.... that's not made of adamantium right ? She still could've killed him. Ow well... glad he made it.

[-Spider-]

I agree with you about Wolverine never instantly healing however Jean was not trying to kill Wolverine. Merely test him. Make Wolverine truly struggle to just earn the right to talk to her. Otherwise she could have just dematerialised him instantly.

Atleast that's how I figure it :)

[Captain All That]

Well... what you guys need to understand is that Jean Grey and the Pheonix Persona were fighting for control... Which is why Wolverine was able to make it... otherwise he would have been fried. I didn't understand the first time I saw the movie but I did the second time...

For a comic it made perfect sense... however in a movie it didn't come across as effectively as it could have.

As far as Nightcrawler... X3 The Video Game explains why Nightcrawler wasn't in the movie... It's a prequel to the movie... even though they have Iceman doing stuff he didn't do in the movie.

[dmario]

Screw Nightcrawler, WHERE's BISHOP?!?!


one awful black character is enough.

[ITDGage]

Good God! To think that I put off looking at this thread because I thought that I'd be pariahed for knocking the movie, which I new I'd have to do! Imagine my surprise when I found out that pretty much every single one of you feels the way I do! I'll just reiterate my major points of protest:
1. This wasn't an X-Men movie. Sure, it had some X-Men in it, and they fought some X-Men villains, but the movie had very little to do with them. It was more of a political statement (anyone else notice any corollaries to the alien / immigration issue?) and a love story hidden in an effects-laden "action adventure." :(
2. Angel served essentially NO purpose in the film. He seems to have been an afterthought by the scriptwriter when he decided that there needed to be something to appeal to the family viewer. What does he do? Technically, he is the catalyst that eventually causes the war, indirectly, simply by being a mutant born to an intolerant father. But seriously... He runs away, to return for only one significant scene: the one at the end where he saves his father. Of course, as little character developement as he got, how can we believe he would even DO that? :confused:
3. Everyone's hair. Except Wolvie, of course.
4. Beast looked like Violet Beauregarde's hairy uncle. Why the hell was he wearing a TUX???!!!
5. If it wasn't bad enough that they've ignored two of the most intriguing romantic sagas in the Marvel Universe (Gambit loves Rogue loves Wolverine loves etc... and Deadpool's on and off courtship of Siryn), I have to see Wolvie making out with Jean AND Rogue throwing away her gift for lame-ass Iceman? WTF!
6. Who the hell is choosing the characters to be in the films, a test audience of 13 year-old girls? Kitty Pryde, Iceboy, Collossus as a freaking teenager? Why?

Was there anything that I DID like about it, you ask? Why did I even go see it? One word:
Jugger-fuggi-naut.
And Jean Grey looked pretty sweet in Phoenix mode (and in that black leather).

I could go on some more, and may still later, but that's it for now.


Late,
Tyler

[BlackFOOT]

Yeah, I must admit, as about the only person here who liked it, in retrospect I am beginning to like it a lot less - the flaws you guys point out are serious. I guess the film was a bit rushed or not really well-thought out. Admittedly, I doubt many of you fanboys could be happy with it as you just can't tell the almost fifty year struggle and development of the dozens of X-men in just a measly three hour trilogy but...oh well. Thanks for your comments guys.