Daredevil Versus Nightwing [Archive]

bbbearcounty

01-12-2006, 11:18 AM

This may sound a bit cliche, but... what if: Daredevil versus Nightwing.
Both heroes are very similiar in the fact they lost their parents at a
young age causing both to make a huge impact on the rest of their lives.
Also, both heroes use similar weapons, aerial fighting tactics, and have
had a mentor teach them to fuel their talents a majority of their lives.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/populaceintwo/daredevil43.jpg

Personally, I think this could be a fight to death as each hero would
refuse to lose. I think Dick Grayson could put up a great fight, but
when it comes down to it, Matt Murdock would probably be the last man standing.

What do you guys think?

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Dick Grayson: So what do you call this thing, anyway?
Batman: The Batmobile.
Dick Grayson: That is totally queer.
Batman: Shut up.

CWmax

01-12-2006, 11:35 AM

Daredevil has superpowers....Nightwing does not.

Daredevil Wins!

rupertsmissen

01-12-2006, 12:40 PM

if it was a fashion fight to the death, then daredevil would loose out, with his pouffy red suit with the little horns.... but id have to agree with cwmax, superpowers do tend to give one a certain edge over ones opponent...

shoryukenmaster

01-12-2006, 12:50 PM

superpowers aren't what give him the edge...he's just more badass is all. Batman would totally kick the crap outta DD. Totally.

Knigge

01-12-2006, 01:09 PM

Nightwing's a puss. DD would eliminate his ass in 5 seconds flat.

jeremy dale

01-12-2006, 01:29 PM

I disagree. I LOVE DD but Nightwing has been trained to take down any opponent, regardless of the disadvantages he has. Daredevil moans and complains about his miserable life for a living and makes stupid decisions-- Nightwing takes action.

;)

NickRocks

01-12-2006, 02:02 PM

you guys are delirious. Nightwing was trained by the best. Daredevil....by some blind ninjas guy. Nightwing wins all the way

Killer_gym_sox

01-12-2006, 03:25 PM

Id have to go with NW. Hes just cooler in my opinion

ANTI_herox

01-12-2006, 04:09 PM

Man... this is a toughie. I'm a fan of both characters and
I really wouldn't know. I mean Daredevil was trained by Stick
and has some of the best writers (Brian Michael Bendis,
Frank Miller) attached, yet Nightwing has an untapped potential
waiting to be released. I'm going to go for the little man this time
around just because Nightwing can be badass if he needs to.

Art of Drowning

01-12-2006, 04:48 PM

if batman can kick DD's ass and dick was trained by him and might possibly fill the mantle one day, im sure he could mess up him with some gadgets that go boom.

smygba

01-12-2006, 05:07 PM

i never read any Daredevil comics, but he does hold a natural edge on Nightwing in that he's got supersenses.

In theory Nightwing should be one of the best Human superheroes around, Trained by Batman, a natural athelete, loads of gadgets, and in his team books is made out to be the man. but when it comes to the bat part of the dc universe, Grayson seems way weaker. He's written to differently in those books to give far more superiority to Batman then he deserves, and Devin Grayson's recent writing on the book would make you think he can't handle a 9-5 job, let alone be a superhero.
If I had to pick one though, I'd still go with Nightiwng, cos one I'm a fan, and two, like Anti Herox said, he's got so much untapped potential. I mean when the JLA was thought dead, Nightwing led a new JLA, so its made out, he's got the talent, he's just given a backseat for the older fan boys. I reckon if he had to, he could take Daredevil.

shoryukenmaster

01-12-2006, 08:43 PM

if batman can kick DD's ass and dick was trained by him and might possibly fill the mantle one day, im sure he could mess up him with some gadgets that go boom.

It's possible that he might one day fill the mantle, but highly unlikely. Batman is a one of a kind and no matter how much training anybody ever does with him, they will never surpass him. Dick would put up one hell of a fight, but in the end DD would win.

jeremy dale

01-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Nightwing is Batman but better-- without the psychological baggage and emotional complexes of his former teacher/friend/whatever.

Don't get me wrong, I love DD, I do-- but Nightwing is the best of both worlds-- the heroics and ethics of Superman with the skills and drive of Batman.

Travis

01-12-2006, 10:31 PM

Eh, good ol daredevil could kick nightwings lilly ass anyday. Thats because Daredevil is a SUPER hero, while nightwing is just a regular hero.

Killer_gym_sox

01-12-2006, 10:43 PM

Nightwing is hella intelligent though.... Everyone has a weakness and Nightwing would be smart enough to find it :|

comes down to who makes the first move

Spidey

01-12-2006, 11:17 PM

Nightwing was trained by Batman, but he's not Batman.
I think Nightwing would fall short on this one. Daredevil just has too much physical prowess, he can do stuff that unfortunately for NW, can't be taught. While NW maybe stronger and have a wider range of attacks DD would definitly outmaneuver him.

shoryukenmaster

01-13-2006, 06:58 AM

Nightwing is Batman but better-- without the psychological baggage and emotional complexes of his former teacher/friend/whatever.

less psychological baggage and emotional complexes > more experience = no.

Chris Piers

01-13-2006, 08:36 AM

smygba

01-13-2006, 09:34 AM

Nightwing (or Batman, for that matter) could not sneak up on DD thanks to his super-hearing so a sneak attack is out of the question. DD's sense of touch gives him acrobatic abilities on par with Nightwing but DD hits harder. Nightwing is a sidekick who grew up. He's ok, but DD is just more ruthless.

Honstly, DD would be a match for Batman himself.
They've done that comic before. Nothing new ¬_¬
And this isn't a question on Batman, this one's closer to fantasy warfare, because its one they've never given us.

The thing which I find interesting about places like PJ and other comic forums is that the fans are always more skewed then the mass market on the net. Nightwing + his Teambook still outsells all Dardevil comicsout there monthly.

penciljack

01-13-2006, 10:22 AM

I think I have to agree with Chris, even though I hate to give the nod to Daredevil. The super senses would be too much to overcome. All of Nightwing's tricks and tactics would be rendered useless.

And since when did sales numbers equate to one character beating another? We're just playing "What If" here; I don't think sales really factor in, you know?

I mean, for example, if you consider sales, you'd think Batman would beat Captain America, but that's just clearly not the case.

smygba

01-13-2006, 11:38 AM

Agents Myth

01-13-2006, 12:53 PM

Some one like Bain could'nt even touch Daredevil so you know where I'm goin' here. Was'nt Bats trained by some martial arts guy too?

Trilogy

01-13-2006, 01:50 PM

This shouldn't even be a debate. Daredevil would own this dude. Dick Gayson doesn't have the heart or the grit.

But I like Scott McDaniel's Nightwing better than his Daredevil.

bbbearcounty

01-13-2006, 04:14 PM

Well, the fight between both heroes was pretty close, but
now looks to be in favor of the man without fear, Daredevil.
However, this doesn't mean the end for Batman's former ward
either. There's six more days to decide - Daredevil or Nightwing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/populaceintwo/wallpaper_daredevil02.jpg

Poll As Of: 01/13 - 6:15PM
Daredevil - 18
Nightwing - 12

jdmakescomics

01-13-2006, 06:04 PM

I voted for nightwing because he was trained by BATMAN.....and I like him more >_>

Huerta

01-13-2006, 06:27 PM

Well in DC vs Marvel Wolverine did beat Lobo to a pulp within the space of a page. and that was based on fan votes, so I was just saying, if you measure it by those methods, Nightwing defo gets the nod.

Well, Most fans are crazy. They voted on the "Who's coolest factor", wolverine didnt even have his adamantium at the time, so Lobo wouldve CRUSHED HIM.

Anyways, i say Daredevil for obvious reasons... POWERS!

smygba

01-13-2006, 06:28 PM

I agree Aztek, fans are crazy, they think Wolverine is cool.

Anyways, If powers are so important, why if we put Batman up there would you all suddenly change your tune?

Huerta

01-13-2006, 06:30 PM

We're talking about NIGHTWING, not Batman. NIGHTwing...nightwing.

smygba

01-13-2006, 06:40 PM

We're talking about NIGHTWING, not Batman. NIGHTwing...nightwing.
I know, but you dismissed Nightwing so quickly because Darevdevil has powers.
But if you stuck Batman up there, who's a human, and nothing more, you wouldn't simply claim Daredevil would beat him because he's got powers. And be fair, Nightwing is basically a more agile Batman in exchange for a little less mental prowess. I don't think its truely as big a difference as some people believe.

ANTI_herox

01-13-2006, 06:51 PM

I know, but you dismissed Nightwing so quickly because Darevdevil has powers.
But if you stuck Batman up there, who's a human, and nothing more, you wouldn't simply claim Daredevil would beat him because he's got powers. And be fair, Nightwing is basically a more agile Batman in exchange for a little less mental prowess. I don't think its truely as big a difference as some people believe.

I agree with you smygba on that one. Nightwing at his best is
a formidable hero at best. He is an excellent hand-to-hand
combatant with an aptitude for martial arts and acrobatics.
Daredevil, however, does have a mutation heightening the
other four senses: smell, taste, hearing and touch to
superhuman levels. Mutation also resulted in a sixth sense of
radar enabling ability to perceive objects and movement with
a 360 degree radius. Yes, logically Daredevil has the upperhand, but
that's not going to stop Dick Grayson. It's just a matter of luck and determination.

Trilogy

01-14-2006, 09:04 AM

Daredevil's powers are a factor, but I think this fight would be won on character also. Daredevil just seems to be more of a desperate fighter. He has more grit and heart than Nightwing does. When you combine that with the fact that DD has also been trained in the martial arts since his early youth, he's extremely agile, and just as durable as Grayson... When you factor all of that in with DD's heightened senses, I just don't see how Nightwing could take this.

I think Daredevil vs Batman may be a different story though. Batman's better than Nightwing at adapting to stuff during the midst of a fight. He's probably still better than Nightwing at the martial arts, so he'd give DD more of a problem there. He's willing to do all of the stuff Nighwing won't -- Batman fights dirty. And he's relentless. Plus if Batman has any time at all to prepare and plan for DD then it's over. I remember the Batman and Daredevil crossover that Scott Mcdaniel did a while back. It didn't take Batman long at all to figure out DD is blind.

Bruce

01-14-2006, 09:33 AM

Dc wins always

antquinonez

01-14-2006, 02:50 PM

a mature dick grayson, ready to take over the mantle of batman, beats daredevil.

01-14-2006, 03:13 PM

No weapons, no prep time, no home advantages: Daredevil > Nightwing.

thEbrEEze

01-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Nightwing trained by Batman. Batman is a genuis. Nightwing wins.

theycallmemisterbob

01-15-2006, 09:20 PM

Nightwing trained by Batman. Batman is a genuis. Nightwing wins.

Bleh. Nightwing is a gymnast, a... tumbler. DD's onboard radar automatically negates any surprise moves the over-grown Boy Blunder has up his sleeve.

sdowner

01-15-2006, 11:14 PM

Nightwing whips out a few concussion grenades, a couple flash-bangs, you got shuriken whizzing all over the place... Daredevil's like WTF and Nightwing's foot comes outta nowhere and drives his sinuses into his brain. Nightwing wins.

sdowner

01-15-2006, 11:15 PM

I read an online thing like 3 years ago with the exact same scenario.. it was like on a website devoted solely to hypothetical superhero battles. It made perfect sense to me, and besides, I love Nightwing.

banshee

01-15-2006, 11:42 PM

NW for me.. cos.. well.. he's cool :) Not a huge fan of DD I guess, prefer the Bats side of things... and besides... Ben Affleck has forever ruined DD for me LOL

theycallmemisterbob

01-16-2006, 12:15 AM

NW for me.. cos.. well.. he's cool :) Not a huge fan of DD I guess, prefer the Bats side of things... and besides... Ben Affleck has forever ruined DD for me LOL

It's true that DD has been Affleckized - but so also has Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan.

We can't let the enemy win! Take back our heroes!!!

On the other hand, girly-man Affleck might make a good NW.

bbbearcounty

01-16-2006, 08:16 AM

Poll As Of: 01/16 - 10:15AM
Daredevil - 23
Nightwing - 18

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/populaceintwo/Daredevil04.jpg

Even though Nightwing is behind, he's
slowly catching up to the man without fear.

smygba

01-17-2006, 07:52 AM

Its amazing how Daredevil got the red bar, and Nightwing got the blue one ¬_¬

Captain All That

01-19-2006, 12:39 AM

First off... Daredevil would beat Nightwing to within a pulse of his life and then have him convicted for a crime he didn't commit... Then he would out batman, destroy his empire and beat batman too...

Batman is awesome... but he's no daredevil. Those that voted for nightwing should give me your address so I can send the cops over... there's some obvious heavy drug usage going on.

theycallmemisterbob

01-19-2006, 04:42 AM

First off... Daredevil would beat Nightwing to within a pulse of his life and then have him convicted for a crime he didn't commit... Then he would out batman, destroy his empire and beat batman too...

Batman is awesome... but he's no daredevil. .

OK that's overstating it. I voted for Daredevil against Boy Blunder - but not against the Bat, no way.

Daredevil, as you point out, has a fatal character flaw- in that he's a lawyer. But Batman is filthy rich - he can buy a FLEET of the best lawyers. Maybe even Johnny Cochran, if he were still alive- who would immediately deploy the Chewbacca defense, and completely disable DD's feeble attempt to "destroy his empire"

I know Batman, and Daredevil is no Batman.

saint manji

01-19-2006, 01:07 PM

So shoulnt you start a Matt Murdock Vs. Johnny Cochran (returned from the grave by Dr. Strange, of course) and see who, of the two, could convince ANY judge that R. Kelly was innocent of sexing up a 14 year old.

bbbearcounty

01-21-2006, 03:19 PM

So, with all your votes it looks like Daredevil wins at 27 to 21.
Anywho, a battle between these two (if done right) would probably
be down right amazing. I say this because at their best both heroes would
probably go as far as killing the other if the chance need to be taken. Well, that's that.

Daredevil wins.

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Wild&Uncouth

04-03-2009, 03:16 AM

Daredevil Would Win Because Matt Murdock Has Catholic Guilt Far More Than Dick!

Rorschach21

05-28-2009, 02:27 PM

Daredevil has superpowers....Nightwing does not.

Daredevil Wins!

Dude..Daredevil doesn't have super powers like heat vision or claw's coming out of his fists(well he kind of does,but I wouldn't call that a superpower).