FUSION: James Bond - Wrapping it up!

[xadrian]

Current update is here.

Repository of files is here (http://www.polariscomics.com/JamesBond)

Read the rest only if you have some time to kill.



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(this is a lot of info, please read it all, if you have questions ask)

Ok folks, here's where the bulk of the work begins. Ugga Bugga was kind enough to write and rewrite a pretty dang good script if I do say so.

Script (http://www.polariscomics.com/JamesBond/script_v1.3.doc)

Before you Reply and call out pages there are a few changes from previous jams that I'd like to try out. Yes I know, 9 pages AND a bunch of changes. I'm a wild man. I'm on the edge!

First off, we're going to ask that people only pencil or only ink one page at a time. I'd like show progression as well as a final product. This is all about collaboration. I will immediately nix anyone asking for a single page to take to completion. That may hurt us in the end, but I have faith that in three months we can still do it. Other than that, the same framework follows, you sign up for a page, you have x amount of time to do it.

Also new is that we're looking for specific talents for specific pages, that will follow. I don't have time to look through everyone's deviant art portfolio and judge whether they're good enough or not, just be mindful of it when you post. This applies mainly to pencilers.

So, the break down goes like this, pencilers should be good at these items to be considered.

Page 1 - Storytelling. It's just an office scene and it could get really boring if not handled right.

Page 2 - Technical. This is our first shot of the car and it's changing from a bus. Needs to have good lines.

Page 3 - Environemental. Shot of a castle and Bond driving so plants and trees and buildings are more prevalent.

Page 4 - Technical and animals. A tank and a horse. Weird combo on that.

Page 5 - Details. It's a splash page so someone will have to be good with a lot of interior detail and some likenesses.

Page 6 - Likenesses. This is the baddie reveal page.

Page 7 - Action. This is mainly fighting. Should be good with drawing females too.

Page 8 - Action and Likenesses and Women (drawing not picking them up.)

Page 9 - Environmental. Need to be able to draw a cart, people and the outside.

Before we sign up for pages, however, we'll need some model sheets so the characters can remain consistent throughout the episode. However, some items are up for debate first.

Bond - I'm leaning towards Connery because he's iconic and, possibly the best of the Bonds. Although there was mention that a generic Bond would work as well.

Q - John Cleese, Desmond Llewelyn, other or generic? My vote is Llewelyn.

Moneypenny - Lois Maxwell, Caroline Bliss or Samantha Bond?

Gooden Plenty will need a model sheet as she is a brand new character. This will be our first task.

As for the baddies, they all have photo references and don't necessarily need model sheets, but I will entertain them if you guys think they are needed. I don't. We only have a little time to do this and doing 8-10 model sheets vs. 3-4 is going to be brutal.

Important: We won't start doing pages until we get all the models. So the quicker we knock these out the better.

After all the models are at least penciled and greenlighted, we'll start the pages.

Page deadlines are 10 days, flat. You don't get your page in under the deadline, you're out and anyone who has signed up as an alternate will get your page. If you sign up as an alternate, go ahead and pick a page to do, we will include all pages drawn. This way, if someone bails, we don't have to wait another 10 days to draw it. I realize we may not get 10 alternates so I hope it doesn't come to that.

I will do my best to keep this thread as updated as possible. In the past I've edited the first post with the current info, but Loston's practice of updating news posts every time seemed to work better, so we'll do that.

So we'll open it up. I want to give a few weeks for the models and their discussions. We'll start with the pages on May 1st unless we come to a concensus with some models sooner.

Thanks for paying attention and getting all this way. Now let's have some fun.

[Ugga Bugga]

Feel free to contact me as well if there are any clarifications needed.

Good Luck everyone.

[Rocket37]

Hi guys..

I would like to give page 3 pencils a shot. also i could ink someone else's page if you like. Ive been looking forward to participating in a jam, but i'll understand if you want more experienced pj members.

Hope to be involved.

Frank

[xadrian]

Page 3 pencils are yours, Frank. Welcome aboard.

I'd also like to remind people that while I wanted individual efforst on each page, that doesn't mean you can't pencil one page and ink another, like our Rocket friend here has pointed out. I'm just trying to lean away from the one person for the entire page type of thing.

Also, if we run low on inkers or colorists, I fully expect a couple people to do multiple pages. Just as long as they aren't the ones they drew originally. ;)

[Rocket37]

Thanks xadrian,

It's an honor to be aboard, I won't let you down..

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

Before we sign up for pages, however, we'll need some model sheets so the characters can remain consistent throughout the episode. However, some items are up for debate first.

Bond - I'm leaning towards Connery because he's iconic and, possibly the best of the Bonds. Although there was mention that a generic Bond would work as well.

Q - John Cleese, Desmond Llewelyn, other or generic? My vote is Llewelyn.

Moneypenny - Lois Maxwell, Caroline Bliss or Samantha Bond?

Gooden Plenty will need a model sheet as she is a brand new character. This will be our first task.



My vote would be for the old school feel (Though I wrote in a new vehicle) Connery, Llewelyn. That said, other choices wouldn't be the end of the world.

And it's GOODEN PLENTIFUL not Gooden Plenty :mad: :D

[xadrian]

I'd also like to say that I got a PM for a page request a few days ago, so I'd like to keep pages 4 and 5 open until they can come pick one publicly.

[Rocket37]

quick question, Is the spyker going to be a left side drive or a right side drive?I don't seem to be able to find any right side drive pictures on google..do they make such a thing?

Frank

[xadrian]

Good question, it's a Dutch car. I can't find any right side either, but we could make it right side for sake of it being Bond and all.

[KaRzA]

Xadrian, you can count me in, inking, coloring or painting.
You can assign me the page you need once the pencilers are set.

[Ugga Bugga]

References

Spyker Spyder #1 (http://www.bestbidding.com/auktionsdetails.cfm?auctionID=551)

Spyker Spyder #2 (http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=435&alph=ALL&dec=ALL)

Spyker Spyder #3 (http://www.symbolicmotors.com/mainpages/carpage.php?cid=SP100)

[amadarwin]

quick question, Is the spyker going to be a left side drive or a right side drive?I don't seem to be able to find any right side drive pictures on google..do they make such a thing?

Frank

just find an image and flip it in photoshop. Should be fine.

[xadrian]

Well let's be consistent. Even though all the images we can find are left side, let's make sure anyone drawing the car makes it on the right.

[Rocket37]

just find an image and flip it in photoshop. Should be fine.

Yeah i'ts not a problem to flip it, I just wasnt sure if we were going to be realistic/accurate.. I'm sure there are left side steer cars in england, so having a leftside drive car isn't any problem, I just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page with respect to the car..

So mr. editor we are going with the right side steer? final word please.....


Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

References

Double Decker Bus

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/7104/londonbus36zo.th.jpg (http://img155.echo.cx/my.php?image=londonbus36zo.jpg)

[Rocket37]

as far as the items up for debate..
My vote is ..
Bond= sean connery ("nobody does it better") :p

Q= Desmond Llewelyn (while i like mr cleese, when i think of Q, desmond is it.) :cool:

moneypenny= samantha bond..(just something hot about her! and her last name is bond fror heavens sake..) :eek:

Frank

[xadrian]

Bond drives on the right side, unless he's schleping in New York.

Other characters still up for debate.

[Ugga Bugga]

References

Horse Drawn Carriage

http://www.freeimagehosting.info/uploads/63381dbc65.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.info)

[amadarwin]

absolutely fan-TASTIC sig you got there Uggs!

[Ugga Bugga]

I figgered you'd like it

[xadrian]

Update 4/18

Very early, but I wanted to get used to doing this as often as possible.

Karza, sdowner, krikkit13 have all expressed interest for different levels, nothing specific yet.

Model Sheets
Bond - open
Moneypenny - open
Q - - open
Gooden Plentiful - - open

Pencils
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Inks
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Colors
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Letters
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Web design

Graphics (credit sheets, logo, etc)

Alternates

[amadarwin]

I'd like to toss my hat in for pencillin the cover if that's fine by youse guys...

I was just gonna be an observer til I saw Uggas awesome sig41!

[Hangman]

Ill take page eight and I'd like to give the Bond model sheet a try

[xadrian]

amadarwin - pencils to start?

Hangman - page 8 is yours, Bond model sheet. I think most people will agree that Connery is where it's at. Let's see what you've got.

Thanks guys.

In cast it's wrong in the script as well, the last name is Plentiful, Gooden Plentiful, not Plenty.

Thanks.

[Rocket37]

Hi guys,

As far as model sheets... I was thinking,even if we decide that connery is bond, desmond is Q etc.. maybe we at least need a model sheet for the clothes? so we can keep it consitant?


What do you guys think?

Frank

[xadrian]

That's exactly why we're doing model sheets. Can't very well have Bond wearing a white tux one page and a cabana shirt and khaki slacks the next.

[Ugga Bugga]

That's exactly why we're doing model sheets. Can't very well have Bond wearing a white tux one page and a cabana shirt and khaki slacks the next.


Nothing says Bond quite like a cabana shirt.

[xadrian]

Nothing says Bond quite like a cabana shirt.

http://bondmovies.com/stills/dad/16.jpg

We must be careful.

[Ugga Bugga]

Oh you thought I was being sarcastic ;)

[amadarwin]

amadarwin - pencils to start?

'twas my assumption that the cover followed the same format as the rest, with a different person Pencillin', inkin', and colorin' each step of the way. If you'd like me to do it all, I can sure give it the ol' college try though!

[Rocket37]

That's exactly why we're doing model sheets. Can't very well have Bond wearing a white tux one page and a cabana shirt and khaki slacks the next.


:o Don't mind me.... I just got home from work and my brain isn't firing on all cylinders yet....(only use half my brain at work...) :D

some how i got crossed up in my thinking...I'll go hide now.... :cool:

frank

[xadrian]

'twas my assumption that the cover followed the same format as the rest, with a different person Pencillin', inkin', and colorin' each step of the way. If you'd like me to do it all, I can sure give it the ol' college try though!

No no, I'm glad you assumed that. Most covers have been all the way the last couple jams, let's try this.

[amadarwin]

uh, clarification please...

Do you want to split each phase between 3 separate people?

yes or no will suffice. Thankee! ;)

[xadrian]

Yes.

With 10 characters, pleast let's start with just pencils.

Thanks.

[CWmax]

Nothing says Bond quite like a cabana shirt.


I prefer a baby-blue, terry-cloth, short-pants jumper! That IS Bond!

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondblue.jpg

[amadarwin]

I had an idea in my noggin' including a few, if not all the baddies, so hopefully 10 characters won't be a stretch or crowd the cover!

on to the thumbs cave!

[Chris Piers]

Don't forget to design Bond's "fart" face and Gooden's reactions to Bond's farting scene.

[amadarwin]

If i can sneak it by X, will do Chris!

[Rocket37]

Hi guys...

looks like we still need alot of members to join... :(

Question on model sheets..
can anyone take a crack at a model sheet? I did a model sheet for Q, but i didnt offically say i was going to do one.
So i don't wan't to post it unless its ok with X . You don't have to use it if you don't like it, or wan't another version to consider.

Come on everybody, Step up and take a page to do...!! ;)

Frank

[xadrian]

Anyone can do one.

[Rocket37]

Anyone can do one.

Ok then...
Here is my take on Q..

http://members.isp.com/fjdawsonjr@isp.com/qmodel.jpg

(Removed shadow on lower lab coat)

[Ugga Bugga]

I like the Q, but the shadow beneath the lab coat throws it off somewhat.

[Rocket37]

I like the Q, but the shadow beneath the lab coat throws it off somewhat.

Your right, it does..i can rework that part i think...
I'll change it ..

Frank

[Rocket37]

Ok..i made the change to Q that you suggested Ugga..I think you were right..It looks better now... :D

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

Don't forget to design Bond's "fart" face and Gooden's reactions to Bond's farting scene.

I have created an alternate Chris Piers script (http://www.proletariatcomics.com/uggabugga/Bond%20Piers.htm)

[amadarwin]

lmao! IF it weren't for that restraining order, I'd touch you, Uggs.

[sdowner]

OK, I'll be glad to take Page 5- the splash page, for penciling.
I can color page 9, as well as any model sheet xadrian assigns me to.
Editor-man: some samples of my pencils
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Jb211.jpg
And my coloring
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/FantasticFourPageFinal.jpg
Feel free to boot me to another page if you think I'd do better elsewhere.
Steve

[Rocket37]

I have created an alternate Chris Piers script (http://www.proletariatcomics.com/uggabugga/Bond%20Piers.htm)

"ROTF..LOL" :D :D

[Rocket37]

OK, I'll be glad to take Page 5- the splash page, for penciling.
I can color page 9, as well as any model sheet xadrian assigns me to.
Feel free to boot me to another page if you think I'd do better elsewhere.
Steve

Some nice work there sdowner, welcome to the party!! :D

[xadrian]

Update 4/20

Still a lot of open positions for...well, for everything. Need a Moneypenny and Gooden model.

Model Sheets
Bond - Hangman
Moneypenny - open
Q - Rocket37/sdowner
Gooden Plentiful - - open

Pencils
Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - sdowner
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - open

Inks
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Colors
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - sdowner

Letters
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Web design

Graphics (credit sheets, logo, etc)

Alternates

[xadrian]

Ok then...
Here is my take on Q..

http://members.isp.com/fjdawsonjr@isp.com/qmodel.jpg

(Removed shadow on lower lab coat)

This will work. Can we get a colorist on this possibly?

[amadarwin]

don't forget to add me to the pencils duty under 'cover' :D

[xadrian]

done, sorry about that.

sdowners got colors for Q.

[Rocket37]

sdowners , if you need a higher rez picture for coloring let me know what you need and i'll try to accomodate ya.. ;)

Frank

[Chris Piers]

Thank you for the farting Bond story. It made me laugh. A lot.

God, I'm immature.

[amadarwin]

I do believe there was an unspoken aggreement between you and Ugga that if he wrote the fart bond story, you'd draw it...
:D








or maybe I'm just making an excuse to see more of your work!

[Ugga Bugga]

Thank you for the farting Bond story. It made me laugh. A lot.

God, I'm immature.


Pfffffffffffffffffsssssssssssswwwwwwwwwwtttttttttt ttttttttt

[krikkit13]

I'll take pencils on page 7, however, I'd like to know when my ten day timer starts - I've got a move coming up, and want to make sure I have time to do this before I throw my hat in the ring for sure...

[xadrian]

That depends on when we get the models done. If we can get them at least drawn by this week, you can start this weekend.

Honestly, I was hoping we'd get more pencilers than this to start. It doesn't bode well for when we have to normally struggle to find inkers and colorists.

I'll tenatively put you down. When the time comes, I'll get a hold of you and you can say yea or nay.

(why I hit Edit instead of Reply I'll never know.)

[krikkit13]

Cool - I'll start thumbnailing it out and maybe doing some roughs so I can jump on it when the time comes. I can do a model for Gooden Plentiful in the meantime, if that's cool.

[Ugga Bugga]

Cool - I'll start thumbnailing it out and maybe doing some roughs so I can jump on it when the time comes. I can do a model for Gooden Plentiful in the meantime, if that's cool.


She's a hot brunette. I like hot brunettes.

[xadrian]

Update 4/21

Still a lot of open positions for...well, for everything. Need a Moneypenny model.

Model Sheets
Bond - Hangman
Moneypenny - open
Q - Rocket37/sdowner
Gooden Plentiful - - krikkit13

Pencils
Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - sdowner
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - krikkit13
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - open

Inks
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Colors
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - sdowner

Letters
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Web design

Graphics (credit sheets, logo, etc)

Alternates

[EricMP]

I would be interested in penciling page 5, if you still need pencilers.

[xadrian]

We do. Need one more model done too.

[Ugga Bugga]

Page 5 has been previously assigned though

[xadrian]

Oo, that's right.

Eric, do you want an alternate to page 5 or a different page?

[CWmax]

Wow- I can't believe there is a shortage of pencillers!

:confused:
CW

[thEbrEEze]

hey i'd like to do page 4 if its still open, i think i do good likenesses so i can handle that. Any other pages or alternates that you would have me do will be okay too, just trying to broaden my horizons, but 4 is preferred.

2B

[Justice41]

I would be interested in doing 2 pages, If and I mean If I can get some help with the page in the layouts and storytelling stage. The Rendering and Inks I can do, but that storytelling......kinda tricky. This will be just approving and guiding my chicken scratch thumbnails in the proper direction. If so I'm in. Haven't read ll the posts but would like to know who's the director or editor or art director. Are there any double page splashes in this?

[Justice41]

What's the splash page consist of? I'll also like to do a back cover if possible.

[xadrian]

splash page (page 5) is already taken.

page 4 is now thebreeze's

that leaves pages 1, 2, 6 and 9.

back cover is yours justice

Remember, pencils only for right now, no inks yet.

Justice - I'm runnin' the show, if you need to bounce some storytelling thumbnails off me, I'd be more than willing to help out.

Again, FIRST we need a moneypenny model done before we start the clock on the penciled pages.

[KaRzA]

Xadrian, i'd love to color some of Justice's lines if it's possible.
I can ink one page, you choose which one. If colorist are needed, i can do it also if i have free time... jams are always fun

[EricMP]

I can do page six instead xadrian.

[xadrian]

thanks karza, i know you're good for it.

Eric, would you mind terribly taking page 9 instead? I'd like see about having Justice do page 6.

If that's not ok with you guys, I don't mind, just trying to make good page fits.

[sdowner]

Xadrian-
why do we need a Moneypenny model?
She only appears on page 1, so only 1 person would need to draw her. :confused:
Just my 2 bits.

[sdowner]

Oh yeah, here's the Q model sheet colors!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/QModelSheet.jpg
Lemme know if there's anything worong with them.
Steve

[xadrian]

Xadrian-
why do we need a Moneypenny model?
She only appears on page 1, so only 1 person would need to draw her. :confused:
Just my 2 bits.

That's a very astute observation.

The other point is we don't have all the pages assigned yet. If someone would like to do one before then, I'll accept it. But you're right, we're no longer waiting for a Moneypenny model.

Thanks.

[EricMP]

thanks karza, i know you're good for it.

Eric, would you mind terribly taking page 9 instead? I'd like see about having Justice do page 6.

If that's not ok with you guys, I don't mind, just trying to make good page fits.

No, I understand, I have no problems with doing page 9 instead.

[xadrian]

Oh yeah, here's the Q model sheet colors!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/QModelSheet.jpg
Lemme know if there's anything worong with them.
Steve

Nothing that I can see.

Approved!

[xadrian]

Excellent, thanks.

Ok, so here's where we stand.

Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - thEbrEEze
Page 5 - sdowner
Page 6 - Justice41
Page 7 - krikkit13
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - EricMP
Back Cover - Justice41

Bond - Hangman
Q - Rocket37/sdowner Done
Gooden Plentiful - krikkit13

Need Page 1 and 2 pencilers and we need those other two models done. Penciling clock starts when the models are all approved.

[Ugga Bugga]

My wife keeps telling me not to wear red shoes with brown pants. Now I can show her this and tell her she's wrong.

Thanks man! :D

Good work, looks really good.

[krikkit13]

Question: there's not too much in the way of costume description for Ms. Plentiful - I'm thinking low cut evening gown right now in my rough sketches. Color can be anything - black maybe? Or just barely translucent white/blue? Any other ideas/suggestions? What does the writer-man think?

And yes, Ugga, I know she's a hot brunette! :D

[Ugga Bugga]

I prefer "word monger" to "writer man".

Like you, I figured she was wearing an evening gown. I leave the color and style to you.

[amadarwin]

do you remember what ms goodenplentiful was doing before she got caught? That should dictate what she was wearing. She's a mole, so I'd presume something tight and sexy as part of Botswania's cadre...

[Ugga Bugga]

do you remember what ms goodenplentiful was doing before she got caught? That should dictate what she was wearing. She's a mole, so I'd presume something tight and sexy as part of Botswania's cadre...

It does not really say what she was doing. My guess is something sexy . . . .

and brunetty.

[krikkit13]

Well, that's what moles do, right? Act sexy... and brunetty...

I'll play it by ear then. Word monger. :D

[amadarwin]

it said she was a mole. Unless I misread it? Considering big bad evil man was rezzing the old bond baddies, logic would have us believe she was on his posse of cohorts. Bond's baddy cohorts are seldom wearing evening dresses in the final scene...but then again, you are the writermonger....

[Ugga Bugga]

Well,

We can go evening gown. We can go "tribal" as I have described botswana.

Whatever is sexier and brunettier.

[amadarwin]

I think we should put her in a bikini and caked in mud.

[Rocket37]

I think we should put her in a bikini and caked in mud.


yeah..yeah....OH YEAH!!! :eek: :eek:

[CWmax]

I will pencil Page 01....ok?

CW

[xadrian]

Excellent, cw, thanks!

[CWmax]

It's gonna need some work ...in fact I probably have to rethink the entire layout..but anyway this is my first cut at a thumbnail for page 01...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondTN01.jpg


And here is a try at sketching Bond and Monneypenny
http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondsketchface02.jpg http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondsketchfacemnnypnny.jpg

[Think Tank Bob]

I think I'd be willing to give the pencils for page four a shot, if you'd have me.

[Ugga Bugga]

It's gonna need some work ...in fact I probably have to rethink the entire layout..but anyway this is my first cut at a thumbnail for page 01...



I was hoping you'd come aboard on this one.

Good work as always.

I'd like to see if we can somehow work in the flight of the hat. What I was envisioning (though not properly explained in the script) is him flipping his hat off casually, across the room onto the coat rack.

I also think that the coat rack in panel 3 is in front of the table. In panel 1 it has been placed more on the side of table.

In panel 5, Moneypenny's gaze is great.

The body language in panel 6 captures the tone of the script really well

[Rocket37]

I think I'd be willing to give the pencils for page four a shot, if you'd have me.

I believe that page four is taken, page 2 was the only open page. xadrian is the keeper of the list so i might be wrong..


Frank

[xadrian]

That is correct. Page 2 is really tech heavy, got a bus tranforming into a car. That something you can do TTB?

[xadrian]

Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - CWmax
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - thEbrEEze
Page 5 - sdowner
Page 6 - Justice41
Page 7 - krikkit13
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - EricMP
Back Cover - Justice41

Bond - Hangman
Q - Rocket37/sdowner Done
Gooden Plentiful - krikkit13
Moneypenny and Bond sketches - CWmax.

Again, page 2 is very mechanically involved whoever wants that. So far ThinkTankBob has wanted to do something, page 4 is taken.

[xadrian]

It's gonna need some work ...in fact I probably have to rethink the entire layout..but anyway this is my first cut at a thumbnail for page 01...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondTN01.jpg


Not a bad start. I would consider in panel to having the POV from behind the coat rack as Bond is throwing his hat. Where you have him standing now doesn't make sense in relation to the rest of the panels.

In panel 4 I would try to show Moneypenny somehow. Maybe have Bond sit with one leg on her desk as he's throwing the coat and have a foreground shot of the back/side of her face.

That make sense?

The Moneypenny sketch was great.

[Think Tank Bob]

Ah. I was looking at an old list that had page four open. I guess I can be a backup, if you still want those. I don't know how well I'd be able to do page two, cause i'm not good with tech stuff.

[CWmax]

In panel 4 I would try to show Moneypenny somehow. Maybe have Bond sit with one leg on her desk as he's throwing the coat and have a foreground shot of the back/side of her face.

.

Still gotta keep trying and play with the placement of the coatrack...but here is a new sketch with Bond on the desk...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl5TN1.jpg

[Ugga Bugga]

Nice.

I assume that the jacket will have landed perfectly in the following panel.

[CWmax]

Nice.

I assume that the jacket will have landed perfectly in the following panel.

Sure...Here is another take at panel one with a room layout that hopefully will help....(Obviously Bond is WAY too short in this perspective..)

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl1TN1.jpg

...Here is a new Panel 2...
http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl2TN1.jpg

...and here's a new rough layout ...I gotta get that hatrack placement consistant tho... need to work on the room consistancy in those last two panels also...
http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondTN02small.jpg

[Rocket37]

quick question....is rufus a made up character or a real bond villian?(forgive my bond ignorance).. If hes made up, do we not need a model sheet for him? aleast for his face? hes on page 3 and the last page..

Frank

[krikkit13]

based on the car I'm assuming that we're going modern day, but with Connery? Of course the Sherman tank kinda contradicts that, but hey - any opinions?

[CWmax]

based on the car I'm assuming that we're going modern day, but with Connery? Of course the Sherman tank kinda contradicts that, but hey - any opinions?

All Times and No Time at the Same Time....

[Justice41]

Has there been any major changes to the script since the initial posting? If so will there be another revised file that I can download?

[Rocket37]

Has there been any major changes to the script since the initial posting? If so will there be another revised file that I can download?

I believe version 1.3 was the last script..

Frank

[krikkit13]

Well here's the model sheet for real:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/GoodenPlentifulgowncd.jpg

And here's the Amadarwin alternate :D :

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/GoodenPlentifulbikinimud.jpg

Comments, crits, suggestions?

[Ugga Bugga]

quick question....is rufus a made up character or a real bond villian?(forgive my bond ignorance).. If hes made up, do we not need a model sheet for him? aleast for his face? hes on page 3 and the last page..

Frank

Rufus Botswanna is a made up character. Pretty Bond sounding hunh?

[Ugga Bugga]

based on the car I'm assuming that we're going modern day, but with Connery? Of course the Sherman tank kinda contradicts that, but hey - any opinions?


Something old, something new, something borrowed, something brunetty.

My choice would be to have a retro feel.

[Ugga Bugga]

Has there been any major changes to the script since the initial posting? If so will there be another revised file that I can download?

The most up to date script is in Xadrian's first post of this thread.

[Ugga Bugga]

Well here's the model sheet for real:




Very nice. To be picky, the nose seems to have a bump on it. Not a major problem. It looks good.

[Ugga Bugga]

And here's the Amadarwin alternate :D :




I like how the mud is in hand shapes. :D

[krikkit13]

So that's the one we're using, right? :D

[krikkit13]

Here's a closeup, I didn't post it last night, 'cause its not all that great, but its done, so why not... Sorry about the funky highlights, I was trying something new, and it didn't quite work out...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/GPcloseupcolored.jpg

[Rocket37]

Here is a quick sketch of Rufus's mug I did..This is how i see him..IS this close? Not sure if i did the dreads right so any tips is appricated..

http://members.isp.com/fjdawsonjr@isp.com/rufusmug.jpg

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

Here is a quick sketch of Rufus's mug I did..This is how i see him..IS this close? Not sure if i did the dreads right so any tips is appricated..



Almost exactly how I pictured him in my mind. I pictured slightly more African features, but this is nice. I think this looks just like a real Bond Villain.

[Ugga Bugga]

Here's a closeup, I didn't post it last night, 'cause its not all that great, but its done, so why not... Sorry about the funky highlights, I was trying something new, and it didn't quite work out...



The concept is quite cool. The skin condition didn't quite work out. Once she rubs in that foundation, she should be good to go ;)

[xadrian]

I think we need a Bond model sheet and we're good to start on the official pencil pages countdown.

krikkit that Gooden model is perfect, good job.

CWmax on panel two this is what I was thinking.

http://polariscomics.com/JamesBond/page1panel2.gif

The hatrack in the foreground, giving the room more depth and the hat throw more action. Plus it takes away from the fact that the coat throw panel 4 looks almost the same now.

What do you think?

[CWmax]

... Plus it takes away from the fact that the coat throw panel 4 looks almost the same now.

What do you think?

I think that will work great! I was thinking the same thing about how Panel 4 is almost the same pose ...I will try something with this for sure. Thanks X!

CW

[Ugga Bugga]

I'm thinking that tossing the hat and tossing the overcoat may be overkill. I don't think James would go to that well twice.

My preference would be to see the hat being tossed.

As I continue to look at the panel with him sitting on the desk, it sort of looks like a guy that is trying to hard to be sauve.

Bond is sauve, and never overdoes it.

[CWmax]

I'm thinking that tossing the hat and tossing the overcoat may be overkill. I don't think James would go to that well twice.

My preference would be to see the hat being tossed.

As I continue to look at the panel with him sitting on the desk, it sort of looks like a guy that is trying to hard to be sauve.

Bond is sauve, and never overdoes it.

ummm..OK...So does that mean you don't want him to throw the coat?

Here are some ideas -

- Get rid of the overcoat and Tuxedo...and have Bond walk into the office wearing a suit and his hat.

-Does he need to be in a tuxedo?

Then if you get rid of the extra action of having to toss his coat and show it land...I can spend more time concentrating on drawing Bond and Monneypenny interacting.

What do you think?

[Rocket37]

I'm not a bond expert..(far from it..) but most of the movies ive seen have him in a suit unless he's going to a party at the baddies place. then hes in a tux..


My page is all layed out and ready for details but ive been waiting to see the bond model so i can do the clothes right.

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

ummm..OK...So does that mean you don't want him to throw the coat?

Here are some ideas -

- Get rid of the overcoat and Tuxedo...and have Bond walk into the office wearing a suit and his hat.

-Does he need to be in a tuxedo?

Then if you get rid of the extra action of having to toss his coat and show it land...I can spend more time concentrating on drawing Bond and Monneypenny interacting.

What do you think?

The overcoat, and the tuxedo are not essential to the story. It was just how I was envisioning him. It would be okay to have him in a suit with a fedora type hat (quite dapper if you ask me). (Just no turqoise jumpers PLEASE)

I would be happy with a flip of the hat onto the coat rack, the way Xadrian set out. If he looks better in the suit than the tux, sobeit. I'll let Xadrian make that call. However we need to nail this down, because he is wearing the same clothes throughout.

As for the flipping of the hat. Try to make it as casual as possible. He is not trying to put on a clinic. He just flips it, all cool like. Try to convey supreme and total self confidence.

He is not being a show off. He is just being supremely cool.

[krikkit13]

Glad everybody thinks Gooden looks good.

Is anybody gonna draw a layout of the castle? We're going to need to make sure that the interiors match up, since it all takes place in the same area. I'm thinking it should probably be a great hall type place, so we can work in the chandelier...

[CWmax]

It would be okay to have him in a suit with a fedora type hat ...

However we need to nail this down, because he is wearing the same clothes throughout.

.

I can work on a model sheet...

I picture this gray suit and this hat...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/Bondsuithat.jpg

[Rocket37]

I can work on a model sheet...

I picture this gray suit and this hat...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/Bondsuithat.jpg

I think "hangman" was working on it... but he hasn't posted anything since his inital post..I guess it's up to Xadrian on how much more time he gives him.

The grey suit bond is cool though. Even a black suit might be a good compromise from the tux?

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

I can work on a model sheet...

I picture this gray suit and this hat...



I like it.

[Ugga Bugga]

I think "hangman" was working on it... but he hasn't posted anything since his inital post..I guess it's up to Xadrian on how much more time he gives him.

The grey suit bond is cool though. Even a black suit might be a good compromise from the tux?

Frank

Hangman is good for it. He'll come through.

I'm certainly not stuck on the tuxedo. Grey suit is just fine with me. It was just the way I was picturing him in my head. It had no story significance, so I'm easy like a Sunday morning on that one.

[CWmax]

A black suit would be cool - just make sure to include that hankie in the breast pocket!

[xadrian]

I like that suit design and I like it better than the tux and trench coat, works better, too many props otherwise. Didn't see it until the page was more visual. And actually, that grey is very slick, but it depends on the model we use.

CW - do a model, we'll see if Hangman does one too, hopefully he's still reading all this, and we'll take a consensus.

Does anyone want to design the castle?

Justice are you still in this? I didn't actually hear you say you'd take page 6?

[Ugga Bugga]

I leave the Bond apparel decision to the artists and ultimately Xadrian. Grey suit, Black suit, Birthday Suit. Just NO turqoise jumper.

[Hangman]

hey guys...sorry I havent posted anything yet....I was just having a hard time with the model sheet. Anyway....Im close to done with the pencils and Im planning on coloring it. So i will at least post some pencils for the model sheet sometime tonight. And I was going for a tuxedo look for Bond :D

[Ugga Bugga]

See. I told you he was good for it. :)

Whether we go with Tux, Black suit, Grey suit, lets ditch the overcoat, as it complicates matters and is totally irrelevent to the story.

[xadrian]

Nobody wears a hat with a tuxedo. I don't care about the color, but if he's got a fedora, he's got a suit. Hate to ditch the tux.

Also, he's not going to a party, no need for festive atire.

Suit.

Cool?

[CWmax]

I like that suit design....

CW - do a model....




Here is a couple of takes one with all gray- t'other with black pants...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondsketchsuit2.jpg

[Hangman]

Here's mine.It scanned a bit elongated. So ill probably rescan it and color it tomorrow. Im aware of the fact that in the side shot he is way too long. Thats a problem with my pencils that ill correct in photoshop.Hope ya'll like it

http://www.deviantart.com/view/17595123/

[Rocket37]

Here is a couple of takes one with all gray- t'other with black pants...



I kinda like the one with the black pants...adds some contrast..

Hangman's is nice too..but since were ditching the tux , i vote for grey siut coat and black pants.

Frank

[xadrian]

Could we combine the mildly english face of hangman's with the jawline and hairdo of CW's? Plus yeah, no bow tie.

I know we all agreed that we liked Connery, I don't think we actually said Connery specifically would be our Bond, maybe a generic thing. Let's see if we can make him stronger, but not Batman TAS strong.

Am I asking too much at this point?

[CWmax]

I think that will work great! I was thinking the same thing about how Panel 4 is almost the same pose ...I will try something with this for sure. Thanks X!

CW

Here is the page 01 panel 02 Thumbnail retry...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl2TN2.jpg

[xadrian]

Better, roll with that.

[Ugga Bugga]

Here is the page 01 panel 02 Thumbnail retry...



That's what I was looking for.

[sdowner]

Hey, I can do a layout for the castle interior since my page has it first. I hope to get some page thums up Wednesday too! is that OK, xadrian?

[xadrian]

Technically, all pencilers are going to have quite an easy time of it as they can get most of their pages done sans the Bond figure. So Wednesday is fine.

Don't stress too much on details of the castle, just a layout, floorplan maybe. Work with Ugga if he's got time, maybe he has some ideas about it.

[Ugga Bugga]

I'm not terribly concerned about the details of the interior of the castle. Just make sure that the elements of the story are included.

The odd suit of armor wouldn't hurt (What's a castle without suits of armor?).

My guidance is make it look good.

[thEbrEEze]

what's up guys, this is 2B doin page 4. I was wondering which model Spyker you wanted Xadrian. Also I would like to know placement of the Castle where Bond ends up. I mean I would like to know what is surrounding said castle. It just so I know what to put in frame.

2b

oH AND btw why is it that I can't put my Avatar on the site? Anyone?

[CWmax]

I know we all agreed that we liked Connery, I don't think we actually said Connery specifically would be our Bond, maybe a generic thing.....

?

Here is a try at a version of "generic" bond...

http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondsketchface03.jpg

[Hangman]

Here are the flats for my Bond. I'm not sure if we're using this or not but I'm still going to finish this.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/17630204/

[Rocket37]

what's up guys, this is 2B doin page 4. I was wondering which model Spyker you wanted Xadrian. ?

I assumed we were using the 2005 spyker c8 convertible as our car..I hope so cause thats the car i based my page on.
Here was the ref that ugga put up ..spyker ref!! (http://www.bestbidding.com/auktionsdetails.cfm?auctionID=551)

Nothing says"Bond" quite like a fast hot piece with the top off :eek: :D

[xadrian]

That is the model we're going off breeze, that help?

CW, that's better than the other models I've seen so far, at least I like that one the most.

I know I said Hangman had this model, could we combine forces on it?

breeze, you have to have 150 posts to put up an avatar.

as far as castle exterior, I don't know that it was discussed, but the ref in the script made it seem like a wooded, but well manicured area of land. at least a drive to the front, more a mansion than a dark ages castle.

[amadarwin]

oH AND btw why is it that I can't put my Avatar on the site? Anyone?

150 posts. Start the countdown.

[xadrian]

Hey guys, I want to let you know, we're not waffling on the Bond models because any of them are bad, Ugga and I are having some creative disputes over what we see as the Bond figure. So, it's nothing you guys are doing wrong, but mommy and daddy are having a tiff.

Anyway, it's Ugga's script so I'll let him do some crits on what we have and what he'd like to see more of. Maybe if CW or sdowner (either or both) would like to PM him and maybe you guys can knock it out together.

S'that sound good?

I'd like to get some pages started, I see we have a few thumbnails already, I'll post an update later today.

Thanks guys.

[Ugga Bugga]

but mommy and daddy are having a tiff.



I'm the Daddy

[amadarwin]

I'm the Daddy

So daddy, are you the catcher?

[Ugga Bugga]

So daddy, are you the catcher?


the pitcher my man, the pitcher.

[xadrian]

Ok kids, don't make me turn this thread around.

[Ugga Bugga]

Anyhow. Back to business.

I have a few problems with both of the model sheets. I'll start with Hangman.

A) Bond's posture makes him look like a pencil pushing accountant, uncomfortable in his own skin. He is hunched over, which implies a serious lack of confidence. He needs to exude confidence.

B) The side view face is scary. He looks like a ventriliquist dummy from a horror flick.

C) Bond should be more handsome. The features should be as symetrical as possible (Studies have shown that symmetry is one of the guideposts of attractiveness)


Now onto CWMax
A) The build isn't right. He looks short and stocky. None of the actors that have ever played the role have had that build.

B) The facial features don't shout Bond to me. He has chiselled, handsome (and symmetrical) features.

These are just my thoughts. I hope this helps.

[amadarwin]

dont forget bowtie. Bond wears bowties with his tux. Otherwise he would just look like a typical Secret Service Agent goon.

[CWmax]

dont forget bowtie. Bond wears bowties with his tux. Otherwise he would just look like a typical Secret Service Agent goon.

Bond is not gonna wear a tux anymore...That was changed about two pages ago....

[xadrian]

How about something more Clive Owen?

[CWmax]

How about something more Clive Owen?


How about we just agree on Sean Connery?

[xadrian]

Can everyone draw Sean Connery? I don't mind doing that.

Ugga?

[Ugga Bugga]

Don't matter to me none. Just make him suave, confident, and cool.

[xadrian]

Ok, yeah, sorry to make everyone jump through hoops on this.

http://austenmcdonald.com/musings/ocmf/images/connery.goldfinger.jpg

Will that work?

[Ugga Bugga]

I like that look.

[Ugga Bugga]

Do we have a Page 2 penciller yet?

[krikkit13]

I think that photo xadrian posted will work as a model sheet, just fine. I'm sure we can all do at least a passable interpretation of Connery - its probably easier than trying to replicate a generic Bond.

[amadarwin]

best thing I read all day! Let's hear it for Krikkit! hip hip, hooray!

[Ugga Bugga]

Can we add the fake wood panelling on the Spyker?

[xadrian]

Update 4/26

Need a Page 2 Penciler. As soon as we get one, the clock will start for 10 days on each page. I will PM each penciler when that happens.

ThinkTankBob is our only alternate so far.

Justice said he'd do 2 pages, maybe he'll grab page 2.

Connery is now the Bond model.

Ugga will be taken out back and whacked for suggesting wood paneling on the Spyker.

Model Sheets
Bond (http://austenmcdonald.com/musings/ocmf/images/connery.goldfinger.jpg) - with help from Hangman (http://www.deviantart.com/view/17630204/) and CWmax
Q (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/QModelSheet.jpg) - Rocket37/sdowner
Gooden Plentiful (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/GoodenPlentifulgowncd.jpg) - krikkit13
Gooden closeup (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/GPcloseupcolored.jpg)
Moneypenny - not needed


Pencils
Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - CWmax - thumbnails greenlit
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - thEbrEEze
Page 5 - sdowner
Page 6 - Justice41
Page 7 - krikkit13
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - EricMP

Inks
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Colors
Karza as needed.
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - sdowner

Letters
Cover - open
Page 1 - open
Page 2 - open
Page 3 - open
Page 4 - open
Page 5 - open
Page 6 - open
Page 7 - open
Page 8 - open
Page 9 - open

Web design

Graphics (credit sheets, logo, etc)

Alternates
ThinkTankBob

[amadarwin]

[b][size=3]
Ugga will be taken out back and whacked for suggesting wood paneling on the Spyker.


Has anyone taken that assignment yet? If not, I'll volunteer. I've been itching to use my multiscrewed baseball bat...

[Rocket37]

heres what i have for page 3 as of right now..let me know if i'm heading in the right direction.
http://members.isp.com/fjdawsonjr@isp.com/bondpg3.jpg

I'm planning on changing bond's face on panel 5 (i don't like it)!
Let me know if anything else needs changed, etc. sorry for the scan, i'm going to try and get my mustech a3 scanner working again..(i miss it something fierce!! :( )

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

Excellent Rocket.

I really like James' expression in the last panel.

The car looks really good.

A few crits

A) In the first panel, Bond's hair seems to point to the vanishing point of the road. My eye was drawn too much to that.
I would move the vanishing point of the road elsewhere to avoid this problem.


B) In panel 2, the tilted nature of the screen kept disorienting me. I was wondering if it should be more of a straight shot, or otherwise, show the screen slightly smaller, and show a little more of the interior of the car, with the same perspective, so the audience can better orient to the shot.

(I might be wrong on this)

C) Gooden's stance was a little off. She looks like she is lining up for a Sumo match. ;)

D) There should be a little more consistency with the hairdos from panel to panel


Keep up the good work. It is looking really nice.

[Rocket37]

Excellent Rocket.

I really like James' expression in the last panel.

The car looks really good.
Thanks, Cars are really hard for me,thats one reason why i took this page.


A few crits

A) In the first panel, Bond's hair seems to point to the vanishing point of the road. My eye was drawn too much to that.
I would move the vanishing point of the road elsewhere to avoid this problem.

GLad you saw that...I never did. I can rework that, no problem.



B) In panel 2, the tilted nature of the screen kept disorienting me. I was wondering if it should be more of a straight shot, or otherwise, show the screen slightly smaller, and show a little more of the interior of the car, with the same perspective, so the audience can better orient to the shot.

(I might be wrong on this)

I can striaghten out the frame around the screen, not a problem.


C) Gooden's stance was a little off. She looks like she is lining up for a Sumo match. ;)

I will redo the figure...i assume the face is ok to the right?


D) There should be a little more consistency with the hairdos from panel to panel


Keep up the good work. It is looking really nice.

I will be redoing the face on panel 5 anyway, ididnt like it as i said. i will fix the hair ... :)

Frank

[Ugga Bugga]

Thanks, Cars are really hard for me,thats one reason why i took this page.

You're welcome




GLad you saw that...I never did. I can rework that, no problem.

good





I can striaghten out the frame around the screen, not a problem.

I'm not 100% sure I'm giving the right advice to straighten it out. I think it might be better to add other elements of the vehicle interior to help orient the eye.

Maybe someone else who knows more about these things can pipe in here.




I will redo the figure...i assume the face is ok to the right?

Perhaps a little could be done to soften the features a bit.



I will be redoing the face on panel 5 anyway, ididnt like it as i said. i will fix the hair ... :)

Good.

[CWmax]

Page 1 - CWmax - thumbnails greenlit


Actually I am working on changes to my page due to the fact that we eliminated the coat throwing ....

Here are some new Thumbnails for panels 3 -4- and 5....I was also thinking that maybe I would insert a closeup of Moneypenny between panels 2 &3 for her line of dialogue...

Post: http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl3n4n5TN2.jpg


CW

[sdowner]

If we really need a penciller for page 2, I can take it on. Or perhaps xadrian could pencil it? that would be cool. Anyhow, I can also letter a few pages- maybe 7, 8, 9? Lemme know if I'm hogging all the work, and I'll back off :D

[krikkit13]

Ugga - I had some ideas so far as panel layout on my page, but they vary a little bit from what you wrote in the script. I'm at work now, and can't run through them, but is it cool if I PM you later with some of the ideas so you can run through them and give em the thumbs up/down? I don't want to step on any toes or anything, and you ARE the writer...

[Ugga Bugga]

Ugga - I had some ideas so far as panel layout on my page, but they vary a little bit from what you wrote in the script. I'm at work now, and can't run through them, but is it cool if I PM you later with some of the ideas so you can run through them and give em the thumbs up/down? I don't want to step on any toes or anything, and you ARE the writer...

Sure, send me a PM. My aim is to make the best visual story possible, so I'm always open to suggestions.

Also make sure the changes are greenlit by Xadrian.

[xadrian]

Actually I am working on changes to my page due to the fact that we eliminated the coat throwing ....

Here are some new Thumbnails for panels 3 -4- and 5....I was also thinking that maybe I would insert a closeup of Moneypenny between panels 2 &3 for her line of dialogue...

Post: http://files.photojerk.com/cwmax1/bondpnl3n4n5TN2.jpg


CW

I like the moving in between them, good stuff. Be careful you don't over panel it, but I don't have a problem with maybe a small extra panel for her dialogue.

As far as page 2, I could look at it and see if I can do that kind of thing and run it past myself to see if I can cut the mustard. :)

[GRiM]

I don't have reliable use of a scanner, and I don't think my sequentials skills are up to par, otherwise I probably would've signed up for something in here. But I'm following the project closely. I'm impressed with Rocket's work ethic, good job guys, keep it up. :)

[Justice41]

I'll take page 2 if no one else will. I'm already working out the panel layouts for it, as well as page 6. I'm not liking the panel count in page 6. I think the first reveal of Bloefeild(?) should be singular. It should be him alone with a view of the debris and part of the tank. The second and third Panel hould be combined to show Bond already out of the tank with an inset of Bloes reaction, then we see Herve. Maybe a closeup of bonds eyes as he spots the villians. The next two panels should be him picking up and tossing Nick Nack at and slamming the group of villians.

[Justice41]

I'll post my layouts and thumbs real soon.

[Ugga Bugga]

I'll take page 2 if no one else will. I'm already working out the panel layouts for it, as well as page 6. I'm not liking the panel count in page 6. I think the first reveal of Bloefeild(?) should be singular. It should be him alone with a view of the debris and part of the tank. The second and third Panel hould be combined to show Bond already out of the tank with an inset of Bloes reaction, then we see Herve. Maybe a closeup of bonds eyes as he spots the villians. The next two panels should be him picking up and tossing Nick Nack at and slamming the group of villians.

Sure. Whatever you are most comfortable with. As long as all the story elements are there, I'm happy.

[KaRzA]

Xadrian, i also want to ink a page, don´t forget (you choose it)
And for the coloring... one of the penciled by justice :)

[sdowner]

I guess I jumped the gun a little on page 2...
I've got the roughs half done. *blush*
Here they are, xadrian.
If you want someone else to take it over, that;s great. Though I'm further
along on page 2 than page 5... If someone else wants it, maybe we could swap? :o (Xadrian, you're the editor...)
I also got an interior for Botswana's castle done. It's real rough, but it's probably all that's needed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/BotswanasCastleInterior.jpg
Here's that.

[sdowner]

Her's the roughs for page 5.
I'm leaning toward the second rough.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Page5Thumbs2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Page5Thumbs.jpg
Let me know if someone else wants this page, or if I should keep on it.

[sdowner]

Here's the page layouts for page 2. They're *really* rough, but the gen eral idea should be clear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Page2Thumbs.jpg
Then here's the rough pencils for panels 2, 5, and 6.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Page2Panel2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/Page2Panels56.jpg
They're ready to be cleaned up, at full size.
Should I finish this page, or do page 5?

[Ugga Bugga]

also got an interior for Botswana's castle done. It's real rough, but it's probably all that's needed.

Here's that.

Read the script, its the Fiedenborg Castle!!!!! not the Botswana Castle. (I made up the name Fiedenborg myself) ;)

Nice Job. I know it is a pain in the ass to draw, but a suit of armor would look great in the castle. If it is too much, don't worry about it, but I'd love to see that.

[amadarwin]

for Botswana's castle...its the Fiedenborg Castle!!

Isn't the "Fiedenborg Castle" Botswana's castle?


yes, today is officially 'Bust Ugga's Nutz' day...

<KAFF!>License<KOff!>

[Ugga Bugga]

Isn't the "Fiedenborg Castle" Botswana's castle?

I'd classify it more has his current base of operations. Or perhaps his lair. Most likely, an evil lair.

[amadarwin]

I sit corrected...

[Ugga Bugga]

yes, today is officially 'Bust Ugga's Nutz' day...

<KAFF!>License<KOff!>

Every day is Bust Ugga's Nutz day.

[Rocket37]

I sit corrected...

I usually can't sit after Ive been corrected..Man those paddles hurt!! :eek: ;) :D


Looks like everything is on track now!! Like i said in my first post , I can ink a page too, if we don't get enuff peeps to do it...Not a problem!!


Frank

[amadarwin]

Every day is Bust Ugga's Nutz day.

yea, but today it's official...

[krikkit13]

Since we decided to have Gooden hanging from a chandelier - I'll just place it in the middle of the room. Appropriately evil?

[Ugga Bugga]

Since we decided to have Gooden hanging from a chandelier - I'll just place it in the middle of the room. Appropriately evil?.

Works for me. Make her sexy and brunetty.

[amadarwin]

don't forget to cake her in mud.

[thEbrEEze]

hey guys, i wanted to post my roughs for page 4 but i dunno how to do it with out using a hyperlink, can sumone please nform me so i can get input on angles n such. thanks.

2B

[Ugga Bugga]

post the link, and I will post it for you

[amadarwin]

url of picture

or if you are unsure of what i just wrote, quote someone who has an image online and copy their tags, using your url.

[sdowner]

Nice Job. I know it is a pain in the ass to draw, but a suit of armor would look great in the castle. If it is too much, don't worry about it, but I'd love to see that.

I know it's the Fiedenborg Castle, but it belongs to Botswana, no?
And maybe the pencllers for the castle pages can draw armor under the interior balcony- there's not really any other place to put it, and it would look natural there.

Hey, does anyone have a problem with my doing both pages 2 and 5? I know someone else has offered to do page 2, but I've half completed that. My swap offer stands as per page 5....

[xadrian]

First off, would it be possible to get everone's images around 600-800px wide? It's hard enough to see the images, but to read everyone's posts is becoming a pain.

Thanks.

Justice said he'd like to do the splash page, which is 5, so he's the first choice. You cool with that Justice? If not, I'll take it.

karza - coloring justices page as well as inks on something, got it

Rocket - ink a page

thebreeze - you haven't posted it, have you?

[GRiM]

I was just scrolling through sdowner's roughs and then came upon the downshot of the car. Wow, great job on that one downer.

[xadrian]

I was just scrolling through sdowner's roughs and then came upon the downshot of the car. Wow, great job on that one downer.

I agree, I had a post about taking page 2 off his hands until I saw that.

No way I can top it.

[sdowner]

Saved by the downshot!
Hey, if Justice wants page 5, he's welcome to it!
thanks, xadrian. :)

[Justice41]

I was really talking about the fist page splash. The intro page.
Pg 5 is a tank going though a wall right? I'll stick with the three pages I already have.

[Justice41]

Ok I'm officially comfusdeded. I just looked through the posts and see someone else already started the pg 2 layouts as well as the pg5. It's good thing someone did a mock up of the interior of the castle as I was going for a more modern all metal and multi level platform type setup.
Imma gonna do my roughs and wait to see what everyone else does before I start doing pencils. I'm pretty much done with the final layouts for the back cover design. I may paint it if There's time.

[sdowner]

I, sdowner, am doing page 2. you can have page 5. gotta run!

[krikkit13]

don't forget to cake her in mud.

Done!

(removed img)

[krikkit13]

On another note - Ugga and xadrian, I ended up really busy last night so I didn't PM you, but the changes I'm thinking of are basic:

The script has a single panel devoted to Bond and Odd Job squaring off while Gooden screams for help in the background. I'd like to break that up into a few panels (I'm working on a rough that I'll post tonight). Right now, I'm leaning towards one extra panel devoted to her saying "HELP!" just so that I don't completely crowd that first establishing shot.

Would it be possible for Odd Job to be included in the background on another page - just to establish that he is there?

Like I said, I'll post some (very) rough thumbnails tonight to give you an idea what I'm talking about.

[Bruce Lee]

Would it be at all helpful for me to produce some "attitude" headshots of the Sean Connery Bond for this jam? If so, I could probably do that without too much time or effort. If you think it will prove helpful at all, sign me up and give me a deadline to meet. :)

Loston
http://www.lostonwallace.com

[amadarwin]

Done!

image removed, hubba hubba!

krikkit, remind me to lick your left pinky toe next time i sees ya!

mmmmmm cake!

[krikkit13]

I'm honored...

And yet very, very, scared.

[xadrian]

Ok ok ok, let's slow it down here.

Justice, how did you think you were doing 3 pages? I had you down for one originally and then just recently asked if you wanted page 5?

This is what I have for pencilers.

Pencils
Cover - amadarwin
Page 1 - CWmax - thumbnails greenlit
Page 2 - sdowner
Page 3 - Rocket37
Page 4 - thEbrEEze
Page 5 - open (Justice? if he wants it, if no one wants it I'll give it to someone, maybe Loston or myself)
Page 6 - Justice41
Page 7 - krikkit13
Page 8 - Hangman
Page 9 - EricMP

Is this going to work for everyone? Does everyone understand what page they have? Is there any confusion?

Models are done, we don't need any more image posts unless they have to do with page layouts.

Loston, I don't know that it's necessary, ie I'm not going to specifically ask for them because these are smart people that can type "Sean Connery" into Google and find some images on their own, no need for the extra work.

Also, the chatter, guys, really. I want this to be fun too but these threads get really long as it is, let's not add to it with a signature war or whatever's going on. I don't mean to be a hardass....well, yeah, I do.

I don't mind some editing of the panel descriptions to make the story flow better. Let's not get carried away, but like Ugga said, as long as all the story elements are included, it's your call. Make sure to post the pages as you get them going so we can see.

Any questions going forward? thebreeze did you get your image quesitons answered?

[Ugga Bugga]

On another note - Ugga and xadrian, I ended up really busy last night so I didn't PM you, but the changes I'm thinking of are basic:

The script has a single panel devoted to Bond and Odd Job squaring off while Gooden screams for help in the background. I'd like to break that up into a few panels (I'm working on a rough that I'll post tonight). Right now, I'm leaning towards one extra panel devoted to her saying "HELP!" just so that I don't completely crowd that first establishing shot.

Would it be possible for Odd Job to be included in the background on another page - just to establish that he is there?

Like I said, I'll post some (very) rough thumbnails tonight to give you an idea what I'm talking about.


Make it look good, while telling the story - I'm happy.

[CWmax]

Loston, I don't know that it's necessary, ie I'm not going to specifically ask for them because these are smart people that can type "Sean Connery" into Google and find some images on their own, no need for the extra work.



Yeah sure we can look up some pics....But I spoke with Loston last week and he told me that he has mastered drawing Sean Connery caricatures ...I think it would be helpfull to us all if Loston could work something up and explain which features to lock on to ...tips on the proper proportions of his head, etc....

I say if Loston is offering we should jump on it.

[Bruce Lee]

Loston, I don't know that it's necessary, ie I'm not going to specifically ask for them because these are smart people that can type "Sean Connery" into Google and find some images on their own, no need for the extra work.

No problem, Ben. Just thought I'd offer. :)

Loston

[Ugga Bugga]

I too would love to see Loston Connery. (I love seeing Loston anything)

[amadarwin]

(I love seeing Loston anything)

OUTTA respect to X I remain quiet.

[Ugga Bugga]

Also, the chatter, guys, really. I want this to be fun too but these threads get really long as it is, let's not add to it with a signature war or whatever's going on. I don't mean to be a hardass....well, yeah, I do.



Consider my wrist duly slapped. I'll be good.

[thEbrEEze]

yeah xadrian, i got all my image questions answered. I'm done with some very rough panels for my page, would you like me to post em or would you just like to see the refines. I would like to get feedback on them in terms of layout and camera positioning.
What do you think?

2B

[sdowner]

Hey, I got page 2 done!! WOO-HOO!
...anyway, if anyone sees problems, let me know.
Here be it!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/BondPage2little.jpg

[amadarwin]

sdowner, lookin good! My only suggestion is to flip panel 2. Q is on bond's left. Panel 2 (without the colors) suggest BOND is pressing the button because of where you established bond in the 1st panel, but in fact, it's supposed to be Q doing the button tango.

[xadrian]

thebreeze - I'd love to see thumbnails if you have any questions about your page

and I don't know about you guys, but I like page 2.

[Ugga Bugga]

Very nice. That was a tough page, and you definitely pulled it off.

[sdowner]

Thanks guys!
OK, I can flip it when I get home, I'll repost tomorrow.

[amadarwin]

I don't supposed we could use this Sean Connery version?
http://www.shanmonster.com/2002/connery.jpg

sorry x, just had to. Last one, I swear!

[Ugga Bugga]

I think if you ignore Amadarwin he goes away.

sdowner. The only thing that I would say, is that you should check the model sheets we are using carefully, to make sure that the clothing matches.

I didn't have time to wade through the thread to see, but I'm pretty certain some of the clothing is a little off.

[Rocket37]

Well, i now believe a bus can change into a sports car.. :D

Nice page Sdowner, I hope i can live up to your standards..!! You made it hard to follow with page 3.. :)

I hope to have mine done ethier tonight or tommorrow. I will post as soon as it it done..

Frank

[sdowner]

The only thing that I would say, is that you should check the model sheets we are using carefully, to make sure that the clothing matches.

I didn't have time to wade through the thread to see, but I'm pretty certain some of the clothing is a little off.

OK, The only things that are off is that;
Q's lab coat is open. On the model sheet it's buttoned up.
Bond's suit coat is buttoned- on the model pic it's open.

They're pretty small things- can I leave 'em, or should I change them?

[krikkit13]

My only oh-so-minor suggestion is that you should shrink Bond's foot in that last panel. You have a cartoony style, but that foot is cartoony even for you! Otherwise, I think it's great - very nice work on the transformation!

[Ugga Bugga]

OK, The only things that are off is that;
Q's lab coat is open. On the model sheet it's buttoned up.
Bond's suit coat is buttoned- on the model pic it's open.

They're pretty small things- can I leave 'em, or should I change them?

I'm being rediculously nitpitickity. But the puff is on the other lapel on Bond's jacket. The tie stripe is not so pronounced.

[sdowner]

OK, I'll make those changes.

[Bruce Lee]

sdowner:

I think your page is really cool! I especially like the transformation sequence. You handled that pretty well, all things considered. That's one of the tougher areas of this script, so my hat is off to you. Nice work!

Did you leave enough room for the dialogue throughout? I hope so, because it would be ashame to see all that nice drawing covered up with word balloons!

Artistically speaking, your page has only one potential problem area, as I see it. Panel five's sudden change of camera angle is a little jarring. The overhead/birdseye POV is good, but it might be better to keep the set-up a little more consistant with the previous panels. IMO, panel five would retain layout consistancy and would flow better if it were flipped like so (providing this flipping would still leave room for the dialogue in the script, naturally):

http://www.lostonwallace.com/Bond2.jpg

I have to say that your Bond looks a bit like the man from U.N.C.L.E. to me in that last shot (or maybe a little Bruce Campbell-esque). Are you guys still aiming for the Sean Connery Bond, or has that notion been scratched?

Anyway, I hope this is helpful, and not a distraction to the jam.

Loston
http://www.lostonwallace.com

[Ugga Bugga]

This is the bond model we are using (http://austenmcdonald.com/musings/ocmf/images/connery.goldfinger.jpg)

So, yes it still is Connery we are shooting for - and I think I speak for the entire PJ community when I say that your input will NEVER be distracting.

[sdowner]

Thank you Loston!
That's some great input there, from the King Of The Critics! :D
Thanks, I'll go ahead & flip it.
...and rework Bond's face.

[krikkit13]

Alright, I feel bad that I haven't posted anything yet for my page, but I'm working on it... I managed to quickly scan this thumbnail this morning before work - its tiny, and it was done on the train, so its a bit shaky. I'm roughing it out full size at home. I like most of it, but I don't like the first panel. I'm trying to establish the space, and it's proving a bit tricky. Any ideas?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/krikkit13/Bondpage.jpg

[Ugga Bugga]

You could try doing the hat throw all in one panel. Showing it at various intervals.

I also would like to see the catch of the hat be very casual by James. Almost as though it falls right into his hand with no effort.

[xadrian]

It's hard to tell what you're going for in the small thumbnail, but if you make the angle more extreme, maybe from under Bond's elbow in the foreground, looking past a midsized Oddjob up to Gooden, that might work. The space could be made with some line weight tricks.

http://www.polariscomics.com/JamesBond/page7panel1.gif

[krikkit13]

Yeah, this is my first sequential page, so I'm kinda experimenting a bit. The broken down hat-toss should make more sense when I post the real roughs this weekend - I'm actually really pleased with the way it turned it out.

Thanks for that composition idea there xadrian, I'd been playing with similar stuff, but had been concerned about leaving Bond's head out of the pic - if you guys are ok with that, I 'll see how it turns out.

Is that panel the first time we see Gooden in relation to the rest of the setting? If it is, I'm worried about making sure it works relative to the rest of the pages.

[Ugga Bugga]

Oh I see, you have like a 3D effect thingy with the hat.

That could look quite cool.

[sdowner]

OK, folks, I made some changes to the page, and I think it's much better.
I think I'm done on this!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/BondPage2littlerevised.jpg
Xadrian, is this a "green-light"?

[xadrian]

OK, folks, I made some changes to the page, and I think it's much better.
I think I'm done on this!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/downer_toonist/BondPage2littlerevised.jpg

Xadrian, is this a "green-light"?

It is, it is. I like it.

Ok folks, it's Friday, I'll try to PM everyone involved in pencils (minus sdowner of course) to make sure they're still on board.

Provided that's the case, I'd like all pencils to be done by May 8th. If that's not enough time, please say so now so something can be worked out.

I'd still like to see some thumbs for pages we haven't seen yet, I'll get a better list of those this evening or tomorrow morning.

Keep it up guys.

[krikkit13]

xadrian - I'd like to think that'll be enough time, but I'm moving that weekend, and even if I'm done by then, I'm not sure I'll have access to the internet. I'll still try for that date, but if possible could I have till the following Friday?

[xadrian]

Since you've posted thumbnails I know you're going along well.

The rest of you, back on your heads!

[xadrian]

sdowner, there's actually a concern panel 5 won't have enough room for dialogue. Is there anyway you can reduce the car and people inside the panel?

If not we'll work around it.

[thEbrEEze]

hey just wanted to get my roughs up real quick.
What i did was two different angles on each panel and i also provide the layout.

Layout- pretty rough, just wanted to get it up

Panel 1- for this i wanted you guy's opinion about the middle shot ot the cu

Panel 2- well since i see that in page three the watch is on his left wrist I gotta fix it

Panel 3- tell me which angle is better

Panel 4- same as three

Panel 5- exterior or interior of tank

thanks hope to hear from you soon

layout (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796444/)
panel 1 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796481/)
panel 2 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796577/)
panel 3 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796602/)
panel 4 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796629/)
panel 5 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17796649/)

[Ugga Bugga]

hey just wanted to get my roughs up real quick.
What i did was two different angles on each panel and i also provide the layout.

Layout- pretty rough, just wanted to get it up

Panel 1- for this i wanted you guy's opinion about the middle shot ot the cu

Panel 2- well since i see that in page three the watch is on his left wrist I gotta fix it

Panel 3- tell me which angle is better

Panel 4- same as three

Panel 5- exterior or interior of tank

thanks hope to hear from you soon



In the first panel, I want the car to be visible, and I want to make sure that it is clear that the click of the button on the watch has caused the transformation.

In Panel 3, I wasn't as crazy about the direct side angle.

I want to make sure that it is clear that the tank is making its way towards the castle. Perhaps we should add a Panel 6, which shows the tank just before the money shot which appears on Panel 6

If we did this, an interior shot for Panel 5 might work, and an exterior shot for Panel 5.