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dmario
04-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Okay I picked up the issue (which of course is a 1.00 for 80 pages!)

and all I can say is I haven't done a nail biter in a comic book in AGES and this one has me on the edge.
I would like to say because I don't keep up with the DC Universe like I do with Marvel, but i can't wholly.

I am not used to death in the DC universe, and the death of BlueBeetle was a shock especially seeing that it was Max Lord who killed him point blank.

Carter
04-03-2005, 11:26 PM
You know, by some strange fluke of the cosmos, I picked up a big ass chunk of that old JLA run a few weeks ago in a local antique store (?!), and I totally knew what was going on the whole time. Otherwise, I assume I'd have been lost.

I enjoyed it a lot. Especially since Marvel is going to have to play catch-up AGAIN this year.

Knigge
04-03-2005, 11:52 PM
mm-MMM. *cough*

Sure they will.

Agentdemon
04-04-2005, 03:06 AM
I liked it but Rags morales needs to stop making all his men sad looking with droopy eyes.

Dominicano
04-04-2005, 08:02 AM
I think Morales storytelling was top notch as usual. I totally lost interest after the other pencillers took over.

DJ Kenobi
04-04-2005, 11:57 AM
Hey all. Would anyone like to post a full review of Countdown? A couple paragraphs going into some detail about why it's good/bad would be great. We're doing our best to promote full reviews in Comics Analysis. Otherwise, this thread more accurately belongs in the Break Room.

Thanks.

BenitoCereno
04-04-2005, 12:07 PM
Here's my critique of Countdown to Infinite Crisis, and I haven't even read it:

What's with the name?

Infinite Crisis? What's that supposed to mean?

Shouldn't it be Infinite Crises? As in, an unlimited amount of crises?

Or is it supposed to indicate a crisis that lasts for an eternity, non-stop?

In which case, it wouldn't really be a crisis, would it? It would just be...normality.

They should have called it Countdown to Normality.

I would have bought that.

Crimson Spider
04-04-2005, 12:20 PM
Hey all. Would anyone like to post a full review of Countdown? A couple paragraphs going into some detail about why it's good/bad would be great. We're doing our best to promote full reviews in Comics Analysis. Otherwise, this thread more accurately belongs in the Break Room.

Yeah, I'd like to know what happened before I start getting pissed at DC for murdering another of my favorite characters at the hands of yet another favorite; two characters that have little (if anything) to do with DC continuity these days. More important, what the **** was the killer's motive?

Singles
04-04-2005, 08:24 PM
I don't have time to type out a full review, but this guy pretty much sums up my thoughts on it:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/pop/?read=28386

Carter
04-04-2005, 11:06 PM
I would have bought that.

No you wouldn't. Because it had superheroes. In costumes. Doing stuff. And it didn't take 6 issues for them to do it.

ishmiel
04-04-2005, 11:38 PM
i liked it, i liked all the pencilers, i liked the story, and while i kinda feel characters get killed in marvel and dc when ever its possible to make an event and sell lots of books, it still was fun to read. definatly a keeper, and costing a buck the only reason not to pick it up is a hate of dc and every thing they have and stand for.

BenitoCereno
04-04-2005, 11:39 PM
No you wouldn't. Because it had superheroes. In costumes. Doing stuff. And it didn't take 6 issues for them to do it.

Uh, I don't know what your impression is of things that I buy, but....you're off target.

DrVictorVonDoom
04-05-2005, 12:37 AM
and costing a buck the only reason not to pick it up is a hate of dc and every thing they have and stand for.
I didn't buy it because I honestly didn't care. It's maybe worth making snide comments about, but only barely. I mean, did you buy the Superman ten-center? How about the Gen-13 one? Cheap does not equal worthwhile, necessarily.

Especially since I've already got a big spandex-based crossover to buy this summer - one I actually really care about. So why would I pick up the first issue of another crossover that A) I don't care about and B) requires me to know semi-obscure 80s DC history?

I don't hate DC by any stretch, but there was/is no reason for me to pick up "Countdown to Infinite Crises."

dmario
04-05-2005, 07:27 AM
I don't have time to type out a full review, but this guy pretty much sums up my thoughts on it:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/pop/?read=28386


dude ripped it apart like it was supposed to be a 80 page term paper but has horrible grammar.

its a COMIC BOOK. yeah the cover sucks, i will admit the colors are a bit flat but they convey whats needed.
that dude needs a midol.

Spooko
04-06-2005, 12:19 PM
I dont think it was a bad comic book, I think its kind of lame that you know to get your attention into something they have to do something like MURDER a character or some other horrible thing. I think that has been enough times. But the story was good because in the end you were like "You know they are killing like the lamest character but he doesnt seem so lame when people treat him like a real character"

Crimson Spider
04-06-2005, 01:05 PM
"You know they are killing like the lamest character..."

You are. Dammit.

F!
04-06-2005, 01:32 PM
Ugh. This book was sh*tty on so many levels.

Is it just me, or do the Big Two both seem intent on trashing decades of characterization and continuity for the sake of a temporary sales increase?

Crimson Spider
04-06-2005, 01:42 PM
Where is that Arseface pic from, Finch?

Bucuh aah auh awuhum ahuhaah*.

*Because that's an awesome avatar.

K.E. Woolfork
04-06-2005, 02:48 PM
i liked it, i liked all the pencilers, i liked the story, and while i kinda feel characters get killed in marvel and dc when ever its possible to make an event and sell lots of books, it still was fun to read. definatly a keeper, and costing a buck the only reason not to pick it up is a hate of dc and every thing they have and stand for.

Hate to tell you Ish, but you don't come here enough to actually HAVE an opinion anymore.

So just go to the corner and shut up Philly boy. :D

Post some GOD DAMNED ART. Sheesh.

All these old cats resurfacing without art. What's your damn problem?

Oh, I did NOT like Infinite Sales Ploy 80 page Prologue to all our OTHER "events". Bah. Couldn't beat the price though.

K.

F!
04-06-2005, 03:51 PM
Where is that Arseface pic from, Finch?

Bucuh aah auh awuhum ahuhaah*.

*Because that's an awesome avatar.It's a test shot from a guy who pitched to do the make-up FX for the Preacher movie.

Spooko
04-06-2005, 04:03 PM
You are. Dammit. I love you Have my Baby Ok Please?


But by the end of the book I didnt think he was that lame anymore , I thought it was even lamer to have him die!

Crimson Spider
04-07-2005, 01:04 AM
Dude, check out some of the DeMatteis/Giffen JLA from the '80s. Some really good reading.

Carter
04-07-2005, 01:50 AM
Uh, I don't know what your impression is of things that I buy, but....you're off target.

Shut up. Don't challenge my prejudice.

Mase
04-08-2005, 06:06 PM
I was impressed. I know zip about recent DC characters and happenings, but I followed along fine. They did a great job of quickly and efficiently re-introducing DC heroes to know-nothings like myself, while still advancing the story. I enjoyed the buildup, when he realizes that he's not going to make it. Great strategy by DC - good quality read at a low price. I doubt I'll follow the upcoming crossovers, but at least I'm interested. Cross-overs are too frickin expensive.

I swear, if comics were cheaper I'd be the biggest comic geek ever.

ishmiel
04-08-2005, 07:58 PM
i too wish they hadn't have killed him, it was cool and all but it just seems like when ever a company needs some sales they say some ones gonna die, he/she gets some of the best character writting they've ever had and then they kill them off, almost like a ritual or somthin.

ishmiel
04-08-2005, 08:02 PM
I didn't buy it because I honestly didn't care. It's maybe worth making snide comments about, but only barely. I mean, did you buy the Superman ten-center? How about the Gen-13 one? Cheap does not equal worthwhile, necessarily.

Especially since I've already got a big spandex-based crossover to buy this summer - one I actually really care about. So why would I pick up the first issue of another crossover that A) I don't care about and B) requires me to know semi-obscure 80s DC history?

I don't hate DC by any stretch, but there was/is no reason for me to pick up "Countdown to Infinite Crises."

oooooookkkkk seems there are more reasons not to buy the book
what ever floats your boat bra'

Agamemnon
04-08-2005, 08:52 PM
i too wish they hadn't have killed him, it was cool and all but it just seems like when ever a company needs some sales they say some ones gonna die, he/she gets some of the best character writting they've ever had and then they kill them off, almost like a ritual or somthin.

It almost makes you think they should consider trying to have good writing all the time--or at least as a way to resurrect less popular figures rather than kill them.

Carter
04-10-2005, 03:08 PM
Yeah, I'm really enjoying these takes on the benchwarmers. How much more can you say about Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman? It's kind of nice to see these big events through the eyes of someone I can relate to rather than a god that's always one step ahead of everyone (for merchandising reasons.)

Ugga Bugga
04-10-2005, 03:36 PM
They should have called it Countdown to Normality.

I would have bought that.

I suspect there is an excellent premise for a story tied up in that concept.

Agentdemon
04-13-2005, 12:21 AM
I suspect there is an excellent premise for a story tied up in that concept.
people are speculating that the anti-monitor is involved...

The unknown artist
04-13-2005, 07:00 PM
The only thing that bothered me was the way the character died. I'd have like him to go out big and get the glory he could never get while he was alive. Especially since they spent the whole issue shitting on him. I'm not getting exactly why everyone got so annoyed with him calling them in when his placed got busted in. There were dead bodies on the ground and they're like "No problem here... lets go"

No one even know's he's dead. And from the looks of the OMAC project there's not even going to be a body left.

FIG
04-17-2005, 01:48 AM
I liked it as well. I don't follow along with continuity but after reading this I was shocked at how good it was. Great art too.

cliff73
04-20-2005, 12:09 PM
I was very impressed with the story. I am a huge fan of the Giffen JLI series. I have to say I was shocked at the outcome of the story. Who knew he was pulling the strings all along. Although, now I wonder how long he has actually been able to use his talent.

Stark Raving
04-20-2005, 07:20 PM
So this event is in continuity?
Because if it is, he probably won't be dead for long.