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penciljack
08-18-2004, 03:24 AM
Hi all. As you've probably seen in other threads around the forums, I've been swamped getting this place back up to snuff. It's been a long, hard effort, and there's still a lot left to do, which is why I need to make this request of you all.

If you have questions or comments about the new forum software, or the look and feel, etc. please post them all in this thread. I'm running ragged trying to get everything done, and you may very well not receive an answer to your question if you post it elsewhere in the forums.

Also, please be patient - I'll answer everybody as I'm able, but my primary focus is the site launch, so forgive me if it takes a while to get back to you.

I hope you're enjoying the new site as much as I am - there's loads of cool stuff, and we'll be making even more changes and adding more features soon. Stay tuned!

penciljack
08-18-2004, 03:39 AM
Here's a quick look at some of the things that have changed:


We put it off as long as we were able, but you'll notice we've had to incorporate ads here at Penciljack.com to meet the every-growing costs of maintaining the site. You may see other forms of ads or other paid services soon, but as always, we'll work to keep them as unobtrusive as possible. We hope, however, that these Google ads will provide a useful service for you as well as an advertising method for us.
We've rearranged the Studio forums to fit in with the Comics Lab concept. You'll find that all the Studio forums are now in the Laboratory forums. But wait, there's more! We've also added Tips & Tech discussion forums under each Lab forum so you can more easily discuss your craft!
We've added a new forum! Visit Comics Analysis (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=46) to post and view reviews of comics and graphic novels.
Last but not least, we've updated the design! Some default vBulletin graphics and styles remain to be changed, but we hope you'll find the overall look and feel here to be greatly improved. We're working on completing the revamp process as quickly as possible.

penciljack
08-18-2004, 03:42 AM
A note about Forum Rules

Many of the forums have been moved and/or comletely renamed. Where possible, we've indicated the forum's previous name in the forum's description. However, if you run into some confusion about where to post and why, please bear with us. We're concocting new guidelines as quickly as possible. We ask that you be patient with the moderators as well, as they're learning the new system along with the rest of us.

DEVin
08-18-2004, 04:09 AM
This is just toooo neat.

Bobby Day
08-18-2004, 04:44 AM
I think you guys did a great job with re designing the site! I like it so far. I don't mind the ad's eather I think you incorperated them well. I also like the forum name changes they will, I think take some time to get used to but I like the sound of them. My favorite part of the re design for some reason is the borders you put. I think it is because it looks like the border of bristol board. Keep up the good work guys!
-Bobby

XTRVGNZ
08-18-2004, 04:54 AM
Terry, it's looking GREAT! Good job on the new lay-out (I noticed the new "borders" take up some space though, I think they look great, but it also takes up quite some width of the page, maybe they should be a little less spacious).
I'm not a fan of advertisements, but I understand a site like this can need a little help in server-costs, and I trust your judgement on selecting non-invading forms of ads, so you've got my full support on that :)
And I see we have a "karma" system now... is that anything we should worry about?








Oh, and I think the old-smileys where better. (Where's battle pope???) But that's just me :)

DEVin
08-18-2004, 05:15 AM
And I see we have a "karma" system now... is that anything we should worry about?

Uhbuhhuhwhaaaaa?

50%grey
08-18-2004, 05:20 AM
Hey Penciljacks back, cool beans :)

Is there anyway you can split the Drawing Lab into 2 sections again ( one for finished work,and one for sketches/W.I.Ps)?

thankie :D

XTRVGNZ
08-18-2004, 05:41 AM
Uhbuhhuhwhaaaaa?
Well I noticed there's this "add to *****'s reputation"-button, the scale-thing... how does that work? What does it do?

dfbovey
08-18-2004, 06:47 AM
Nice work Terry, looks great.

My comment is in regard to the Sketchbook section. Just curious as to why it's gone. Do you want people to post their sketches and WIPs in the Drawing section? Or can you create another subsection under drawing for sketches and unfinished work?

DEVin
08-18-2004, 07:24 AM
Well I noticed there's this "add to *****'s reputation"-button, the scale-thing... how does that work? What does it do?


Ahhhhh.

Yeah, now I'm extremely curious as to what this is.

EDIT -

Oh, and what does it mean when there's a "+" next to someone's screenname under the "Users online" thing on the main page?

Annnnnnd also, I love the whole minimize window thing.

Robin Riggs
08-18-2004, 08:00 AM
Nice redesign, Terry, looks good (although this reply window insists on going beyond it's bouding box and extending out beyond your bleed lines). I have one quibble though and it's rather a fundamental one:"Drawing Lab" and "Inking Lab"? Come on, when did drawing become separated from inking? It's all drawing.

IndieRockPete
08-18-2004, 09:19 AM
Do we not have to post 1000 comments to get a custom title anymore? What about avatars?

IndieRockPete
08-18-2004, 09:29 AM
Oh, and what does it mean when there's a "+" next to someone's screenname under the "Users online" thing on the main page?It means that those people are on your buddy list, according to the "Who's Online" page.

eonprez
08-18-2004, 09:33 AM
I like it!

cory w.
08-18-2004, 10:02 AM
Hey Penciljacks back, cool beans :)

Is there anyway you can split the Drawing Lab into 2 sections again ( one for finished work,and one for sketches/W.I.Ps)?

thankie :D

Personally, I prefer the new way. With the addition of a forum for inks, and the coloring forum, it's would actually be quite absurd to have two separate forums just for pencils. People were always posting kinda finished looking stuff in the sketchbook forum, and kinda sketchy stuff on the Drawing Board, anyhow.

Ra Havok
08-18-2004, 11:20 AM
Personally, I prefer the new way. With the addition of a forum for inks, and the coloring forum, it's would actually be quite absurd to have two separate forums just for pencils. People were always posting kinda finished looking stuff in the sketchbook forum, and kinda sketchy stuff on the Drawing Board, anyhow.


I agree. It doesn't really matter whether drawings are finished or not... we'll see for ourselves. And if the poster wants crits congruent to the level of completion, he can state so.

Phil Clark
08-18-2004, 11:39 AM
I have one quibble though and it's rather a fundamental one:"Drawing Lab" and "Inking Lab"? Come on, when did drawing become separated from inking? It's all drawing.

Yes it is. But the thinking is this. Drawing and inking are two separate disciplines requiring different (but admittedly overlapping) skill sets. And it is also based on submission guidelines from major publishers. They ask that pencilers submit uninked pencil samples, and inkers are asked to submit inks, along with a copy of the original pencils. They specifically split the disciplines.

So spliting the forums allows for concentraited discussion of each discipline, even though one artist may be doing it all.

dfbovey
08-18-2004, 12:03 PM
I think Robin's issue is that the Pencil forum is titled "drawing lab" rather than "pencil lab".

penciljack
08-18-2004, 12:16 PM
I'm not averse to renaming Drawing Lab. In the heat of the redesign last night, I thought about it and nearly called it Pencilling Lab anyhow. I may do that later today. It makes sense, plus it's more indicative of how the process is actually broken up.

Lemme see what else I can get to now ...


There's been a fair amount of confusion as to what got posted in the Sketchbook forum as opposed to the Drawing Table. I thought long and hard about it, and it seemed the clearest delineation for the forums would be to break them up according to the processes actually involved in creating comics. We know there will be some overlap and some confusion, but once we can get the guidelines and descriptions taken care of, I expect this new system will be easier to deal with than before.


Reputation is something we'll get into more later. Hopefully it'll help members police the forums as well as keep some folks honest.

dfbovey
08-18-2004, 12:21 PM
All I want to know is, are reputation points redeemable for candy?

penciljack
08-18-2004, 12:23 PM
All I want to know is, are reputation points redeemable for candy?

Heh - maybe. Juuuuuuust maybe.

dfbovey
08-18-2004, 12:35 PM
Kick ass, best feature ever!

Robin Riggs
08-18-2004, 12:50 PM
I think Robin's issue is that the Pencil forum is titled "drawing lab" rather than "pencil lab".

S'right. :)

FIG
08-18-2004, 03:14 PM
Everything looks awesome and even better to what was a great forum to begin with. No complaints here

xadrian
08-18-2004, 03:31 PM
May want to make it known that large art will be clipped by the reduced width of the threads.

An example here (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51020)

Notice it stretches enough off the blue line that it drags the forum buttons with it.

Just sayin.

penciljack
08-18-2004, 03:38 PM
Sorry, I'm not seeing where the artwork is being clipped. Seems it's displaying in its entirety in all my browsers. Truth is, artwork that large ought to be linked rather than posted inline anyway.

50%grey
08-18-2004, 05:06 PM
There's been a fair amount of confusion as to what got posted in the Sketchbook forum as opposed to the Drawing Table. I thought long and hard about it, and it seemed the clearest delineation for the forums would be to break them up according to the processes actually involved in creating comics. We know there will be some overlap and some confusion, but once we can get the guidelines and descriptions taken care of, I expect this new system will be easier to deal with than before.




Thats cool, I just thought you orignally split them up because the drawing forum gains such high traffic,and it allowed for artists to be on the first page longer instead of getting dropped to the 2nd page rather quickly due to the influx of new threads generated in that popular area.
I can see how it may have been a nightmare for your mods,tho.

G-man_2000
08-18-2004, 05:17 PM
What are reputation points? It seem that I can give my self some reputation points as well. The new look is great, the blue border looks like comic book sequential drawing paper. The posting buttons are fixed, this new next generation message board makes things allot easier. The only thing you forgot is the “Electric Boogaloo”. :D

xadrian
08-18-2004, 06:23 PM
Sorry, I'm not seeing where the artwork is being clipped. Seems it's displaying in its entirety in all my browsers. Truth is, artwork that large ought to be linked rather than posted inline anyway.

You're right. I was looking at it in Opera and we all know how it's a step child browser. Looks fine in IE.

You're welcome Dash.

penciljack
08-18-2004, 07:28 PM
I'll check it in Opera tomorrow to see how it goes. It's probably some erroneous CSS setting. IF you can send a screen shot or something, that might help.

dfbovey
08-18-2004, 10:06 PM
Sorry, I'm not seeing where the artwork is being clipped. Seems it's displaying in its entirety in all my browsers. Truth is, artwork that large ought to be linked rather than posted inline anyway.


It happens in Netscape... The fish thread in general discussion has a painting I did that gets cropped on the right side.

F!
08-19-2004, 05:18 AM
I'm wondering where the all-rounders should post work, as their images are not really a step in the process, but a complete piece.

Maybe a Finished Works section or an Illustration Lab?

:confused:

Robin Riggs
08-19-2004, 06:18 AM
I'm wondering where the all-rounders should post work, as their images are not really a step in the process, but a complete piece.

Maybe a Finished Works section or an Illustration Lab?

:confused:

I don't think it should matter if you're finishing the work yourself or working with someone else. If it's a page drawn in pencil it should go in the Pencilling Lab and if it's been inked it goes in the Inking Lab. You really shouldn't need more subdivisions than that.

XTRVGNZ
08-19-2004, 06:48 AM
I don't think it should matter if you're finishing the work yourself or working with someone else. If it's a page drawn in pencil it should go in the Pencilling Lab and if it's been inked it goes in the Inking Lab. You really shouldn't need more subdivisions than that.

I think what Finch is trying to say is, that if you post a drawing that you have pencilled and inked, and you post it in the Inking Lab, people might only comment on your inking skills instead of the whole piece.
Ofcourse, you could ASK for crits on the overall drawing, but I fear people walk into the Inking Lab with nothing but inks on their minds... same goes for the Colouring lab.

That's just a theory, though.

F!
08-19-2004, 06:51 AM
What I'm trying to say is that I feel some work will be out of place in any of the forums as they now exist. Where a piece is first presented and has been fully pencilled, inked, and coloured/painted, where should it be posted for the appropriate feedback?

I use pencils, but the finished piece is not in pencil. I sometimes use inks, but the piece does not remain at that stage. I'm no colourist, but I do use colour and digital painting to finish off.

The logical answer is to post in Colouring, it seems. However, I feel some of the PJers who could offer me the most appropriate C&C may not venture into the Colouring Lab. And with a rule against posting the same work in multiple forums, I'm in a quandary.

I know it's not just myself who posts finished work, and since the demise of the catch-all Drawing Table, there's bound to be some confusion.

XTRVGNZ
08-19-2004, 07:03 AM
I just browsed through the Colouring Lab, and a lot of folks are posting their whole finished pieces (pencils, inks & colours) there, and are receiving full-spectrum crits... it might take a little while for everyone to get used to it, but it'll work.
People will have to learn to browse multiple forums instead of just sticking in the Pencilling Lab, I think this setup might even encourage people who are focussing on pencils to try some inks and colours et cetera, broaden their spectrum, and become more all-round artists (and that's good, because making comics is not just about pencilling down pretty characters).

Phil Clark
08-19-2004, 08:23 AM
What I'm trying to say is that I feel some work will be out of place in any of the forums as they now exist.
<snip>
I know it's not just myself who posts finished work, and since the demise of the catch-all Drawing Table, there's bound to be some confusion.

Firstly, the Drawing Table was never intended to be a catch-all forum. The fact that it is interpreted as such is due to exactly that, interpretation. Whenever someone posted colored art in the Drawing Table it should have been (but was not always) moved to the coloring forum.

With the newly organized forums, the goal is to get members to comment on whatever aspects of the posted art the poster did. Often in the coloring forum the poster only colored the art.

In your case, doing every aspect of the art will open your art up to comments on the whole process even though you are posting it in the coloring area.

xadrian
08-19-2004, 08:41 AM
"Hello. I'm posting this in Coloring Lab because it's a complete piece with colors, but I also did the pencils and inks. Please feel free to comment on any of those levels. Thank you."

Is that really hard to do?

XTRVGNZ
08-19-2004, 09:01 AM
"Hello. I'm posting this in Coloring Lab because it's a complete piece with colors, but I also did the pencils and inks. Please feel free to comment on any of those levels. Thank you."

Is that really hard to do?

Nooo... but it's the MENTAL PRESSURE! Pencils in Colour... does... not.. compute... AAAARG! *poof!*

Chris Piers
08-19-2004, 09:25 AM
I like the idea of the bleed lines bordering the discussion pages but I dislike the execution - it makes the page so NARROW. It feels congested or something along those lines. Harder to browse quickly.

50%grey
08-19-2004, 09:50 AM
"Hello. I'm posting this in Coloring Lab because it's a complete piece with colors, but I also did the pencils and inks. Please feel free to comment on any of those levels. Thank you."

Is that really hard to do?

Why would you want a critique on all parts of a finished piece you did yourself in a forum dedicated to critiquing just the coloring process, again?

That just makes no sense to force people to put finished pieces in the coloring lab...but whatever you guys want /shrug

Penciljack if you're having a problem with getting Mods to help out in new forums, I'll volunteer my time if it helps people out, because honestly a finished piece (pencils,inks,colors) forum with focused critiques is a good idea that really takes very little space on the boards.

Saturn Lad
08-19-2004, 10:17 AM
If you're doing the whole piece, another option is to post the stages separately in each forum. That way you'll get focused critiques on each phase of the artwork.

xadrian
08-19-2004, 10:17 AM
Why would you want a critique on all parts of a finished piece you did yourself in a forum dedicated to critiquing just the coloring process, again?

That just makes no sense to force people to put finished pieces in the coloring lab...but whatever you guys want /shrug


So the coloring forum then becomes only if you colored someone else's work? That should weed out a lot of people.

What if it's a straight digital piece, no pencils or inks, but it's complete, but it's just coloring/painting. Color Lab or Complete Piece?

Ooo, what if it's a sequential page with colors, but no letters yet, is it complete? Even if you drew and inked it?

I don't see why this is such a big deal. The old Coloring forum always had folks commenting on the art and the colors.


If you're doing the whole piece, another option is to post the stages separately in each forum. That way you'll get focused critiques on each phase of the artwork.

Gasp!

Now that's downright collegiate!

50%grey
08-19-2004, 10:27 AM
So the coloring forum then becomes only if you colored someone else's work? That should weed out a lot of people.



I thought the whole point of the coloring forum was for people to show what colors they applied on a piece of artwork wether they drew the piece or not ,and to get critiques on there technique and use of color design and theory..

correct me if I'm wrong?



What if it's a straight digital piece, no pencils or inks, but it's complete, but it's just coloring/painting. Color Lab or Complete Piece?

Complete piece if the guy wants a full critique of everything including color design, color lab if he wants just the colors critiqued



Ooo, what if it's a sequential page with colors, but no letters yet, is it complete? Even if you drew and inked it?




It depends what the individual artist wants critiqued, that should be the deciding factor on what section he posts in.


Xadrian why does it bother you so much that people might want an option to get a full critique in one dedicated forum?

color forum = coloring critiques
pencil forum = illustration critiques
ink forum = ink critiques
All of the above forum by the same artist (call it whatever you want) = all of the above in a focused critique

Gasp!

Now that's downright collegiate!


seems that would cut through any confusion, but ultimately its up to want Terry wants./shrug

Phil Clark
08-19-2004, 11:16 AM
It has always been the policy to move colored pieces of artwork to the color forum. This is nothing new. Be patient and give it a try. Post your finished art (if it is in color) in the Color Lab and ask for a full critique and see what happens. If after a few months things don't seem to be working well, then I am sure we will consider changes at that point.

But at least give it a try, that is all I am asking. And I imagine that is all Terry would ask too.

razz007
08-19-2004, 11:24 AM
everything is cool and sweet but what i like the most is the little penciljack icon who did it. the blue comic board borders are a nice touch nothing overwhelmingly different except for the forum names other than that everyting is kosher.

raz

penciljack
08-19-2004, 11:32 AM
Well, here's the thing - let's assume you draw a Spider-Man picture, ink it and then color it and then want to post it.

At that point, there's really no way to get decent comments on the pencils. In the inking and coloring stage, any number of changes could have occurred.

Once you get to these latter stages, you're mostly just going to get comments on those latter stages. We all know, for example, that coloring can obscure and/or define anatomy in ways that differ from the pencils.

I realize this is somewhat of a radical change, but I really want us to focus on the processes behind traditional comic art. I know there are some things that may be hard to fit into any given category, but I'd rather give this an honest try before we scrap it and go back to the way it was (which had it's own share of problems, anyway).

Once I'm able to compose the new forum guidelines, I expect this to become clearer and easier to deal with. For now, here's how to approach it:


If you're presenting work that appears to be pencilled (whether it's blue-line, or traditional pencils [sketches or tight pencils] or "pencils" done with a Wacom), then it goes in the Pencilling Lab
If you're presenting work that is inked, whether it's actually inked or is "inked" with Photoshop or in Illustrator, etc. then it goes in the Inking Lab.
If you're presenting work that you colored, even if you yourself pencilled and inked it, then it goes in the Coloring Lab.


One thing I anticipate having some problems with is this - if you pencil and ink a piece and someone else colors it, you shouldn't post it in any of the Labs. You're free, of course, to post the un-colored inked artwork in the Inking Lab, but once a piece gets colored by someone else, it's sort of taken out of your hands.

Hopefully, the side effect of this will be that we'll have several forums of scripts and artwork that's ready to be taken to the next stage. Need some pencilled work to ink? Go to the Pencilling Lab. Need some inked work to color? Go to the Inking Lab. Etc. I think this will be good in the long run as long as we all keep an open mind and don't try to fight it.

penciljack
08-19-2004, 11:35 AM
everything is cool and sweet but what i like the most is the little penciljack icon who did it. the blue comic board borders are a nice touch nothing overwhelmingly different except for the forum names other than that everyting is kosher.

raz
I designed and built pretty much everything here, including the logo. The font is courtesy Nate Piekos, over at Blambot (http://www.blambot.com). Be sure to visit his place and tell him how swell he is.

DEVin
08-19-2004, 12:38 PM
Whoah, changed again.

The new look to the posts kind of hurt my eyes. Just because I'm looking at them all weird and I'm totally not used to it.

Not bad though.

penciljack
08-19-2004, 12:46 PM
I think you mean the way the user information is at the top? You can change that by going to the Controls menu and changing it back to the left.

Saturn Lad
08-19-2004, 12:47 PM
Gasp!

Now that's downright collegiate!
Sometimes you just have to state the obvious. :p

By the way, the site looks great Terry.

DEVin
08-19-2004, 12:57 PM
I think you mean the way the user information is at the top? You can change that by going to the Controls menu and changing it back to the left.

.............Ohhhhhhh.


....................Oh.

penciljack
08-19-2004, 12:59 PM
Yeah, I'm working on the tutorial to show folks how to do that, Devin, and haven't quite made it well-known just yet. Sorry :(

DEVin
08-19-2004, 01:00 PM
Heh, no problems. It's rather neat. As well as not too complicated to figure out.

xadrian
08-19-2004, 02:59 PM
One of the FAQ's somewhere mentioned an RSS feed. I've seen this term applied to web logs but I'm unfamiliar with it. Is it going to be turned on here and do you (or anyone else) have any idea what it is?

penciljack
08-19-2004, 03:11 PM
You can get more info about it here:

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/12/18/dive-into-xml.html

I don't have any plans at the moment to utilize it, though. It might be useful for some things down the pike.

Finnegan
08-20-2004, 02:06 AM
forgive my ignorance, i'm just trying to straighten something out here...
if i were to post something like this...
http://www.archibob.com/images/sb6.jpg
where would i post it?

i know it seems like a stupid question, but i'm just trying to figure it out. This is typically the way i draw... blue and red pencil, ink, and markers. I'd assume that it would go in the inking forum, because that seems to be the "heighest level" of the drawing. but then... it's kinda colored, but kind of not.

one could argue that adding value to a piece would be taking it to the coloring level (as long as it isn't done in pencils)... such as blocking in shadows in photoshop or with marker. I could see something being sepia toned being considered colored... but that may just be value done in sepia. Or, someone may just change their black inks on an illustration into a dark blue and it may look great... is this no longer inked? colored?

i think i'm getting a little too caught up in the technicalities here, but i just want to be sure.


=BoB=

xadrian
08-20-2004, 09:24 AM
That's a good question. A lot of your stuff with the Archibots are almost concept sketches, but with enough of a different medium it makes it harder to judge.

I retract my collegiate comment.

DIFFERENT TOPIC.

I just wanted to say the Google ads up top are awesome. I don't know if anyone noticed, but depending on what you type or click on, the ads change. If you click on the Nintendo Online thread, it changes to ads about gaming. Comic threads it changes to Comic Ads.

Pretty slick if you ask me. I've visited a few already.

penciljack
08-20-2004, 11:38 AM
Finnegan, my current thinking at the moment is that it goes in the Coloring Lab.

There's nothing stopping you, for example, from posting the basic sketch, without the marker colors and what-not. You should feel free to post each stage of your drawings. I'm really hoping this new format will encourage a lot of folks to show us more of their processes.

If you do so, be sure to put a link in your other threads taking us to the versions that are in the advanced stages, that way we can all follow along. I really think it'll be neat.

xadrian
08-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Neat little thing. If you mouse over a thread, the Alt Text gives you a small preview of what's written in the thread. No more being fooled by weird thread titles, which I believe should be heretofore known as "threadlines."

Go new vBulletin!

Carry on, smartly.

Mike
08-21-2004, 10:10 PM
Just noticed that one myself! That is a big ball of rad wrapped up in a monster piece of awesome.

Spectre-7
08-24-2004, 01:59 AM
Hey, there used to be a part of the site dedicated to links & what-not. Is that gone now?

I was just posting a tutorial link in one of the Hints&Tips, and started thinking it might be a good idea to collect links to tutorials in there... Perhaps as a Sticky, or something entirely mod controlled. Just a thought.

dfbovey
08-24-2004, 09:16 AM
Just noticed this when I was looking at the who's online feature:

Google AdSense Spider

What are those and why do they browse our threads?

penciljack
08-24-2004, 09:54 AM
Hey, there used to be a part of the site dedicated to links & what-not. Is that gone now?

I was just posting a tutorial link in one of the Hints&Tips, and started thinking it might be a good idea to collect links to tutorials in there... Perhaps as a Sticky, or something entirely mod controlled. Just a thought.

The Links system is ..... yucky. The software is buggy and its implementation is even worse. It was a nice idea, and I allowed it to live for a long time so folks could use it, even though I never updated it, but it's probably dead now. I'm searching for a better solution.

Most stuff from the former Tips & Tech forum will reappear in the new Tips & Tech sub forums, and there are some interesting stickies in there as we're able to post them.



Just noticed this when I was looking at the who's online feature:

Google AdSense Spider

What are those and why do they browse our threads?
Those are the Google spiders that determine what ads get placed on what pages. It's how, for example, the ads "know" to display Alien vs. Predator ads on pages where people are talking about Alien vs. Predator.

Think Tank Bob
08-25-2004, 12:39 PM
Okay, so say you've got a sketch dump you want to post, and some of it is in pencil, and some of it is in Prismacolor markers. Do you have to post it in the color section? I wouldn't want to clog up the section of super nice color work with my marker crap.

penciljack
08-25-2004, 01:01 PM
Well, I'd guess if it's a colored rendering of any type, then it'd go in the Coloring Lab. If it's just a sketch done in one color, for example, then it might be appropriate for the Pencilling Lab.

Think Tank Bob
08-25-2004, 01:19 PM
Yeah, I've got some quick little marker sketches I want to post...THey're not fully rendered or anything, and there's some pencil work on the same paper too. I suppose I'll go in the Pencil lab when I post em.

Mike
08-30-2004, 09:21 PM
What's this "Groups" thing I'm seeing in the member profiles?

Not that I'll wind up using it.. but it would certainly be kinda nice for some of us who post on a similar other area of the web (me, Kuje, Paul M., Chris Piers, etc. on sketchgangbang).

But then I remember back to the IHMC/FoTP days when there was a big "to do" about groups.

Spectre-7
08-31-2004, 10:06 PM
Yo, dey be like gangs but on PJ. You dun roll wit a crew, you be nuttin budda chump, G. Sheeeeeet.

No, honestly... What is with the groups thing?

penciljack
09-01-2004, 10:56 AM
Nothing to be concerned about at the moment. I'm not even sure I'm going to implement it.

Think Tank Bob
09-01-2004, 10:01 PM
What's this "Groups" thing I'm seeing in the member profiles?

Not that I'll wind up using it.. but it would certainly be kinda nice for some of us who post on a similar other area of the web (me, Kuje, Paul M., Chris Piers, etc. on sketchgangbang).

But then I remember back to the IHMC/FoTP days when there was a big "to do" about groups.

You should totally let more people into sketchgangbang. *Hint Hint*

Dash Martin
09-03-2004, 11:34 AM
I may just be losing my mind...but where is the Invisible feature and the custom title edit box in Controls?

penciljack
09-03-2004, 11:40 AM
At the moment, the invisible mode is off. I'm still trying to figure out the custom title thing. The software has several new ways of grouping members, and it's somewhat complicated to me at the moment, plus I haven't had a lot of time to look into it the last few days. I'll get there, though.

Maladroid
09-04-2004, 09:08 AM
Two gripes: I miss the Sketchbook section and I don't like being able to click the profile of the person under the title of their post. If I miss I have to wait for that extra page to upload.

Spidey
09-06-2004, 04:25 AM
I like that you can modify it so that you can have 40 posts on one page as opposed to the 9-11 from before. Oh and that Profile Picture option is pretty cool too. Also how the little green light tells you if the person is online is pretty handy. And apparently you can scroll over the green square under the post count to see where that person's reputation stands. Yet, more neatness.

Spectre-7
09-16-2004, 03:51 PM
I was just thinking about that rep box and something occurred to me... A little green or red box doesn't say much. If I hadn't moused over it, I'd have had no idea what it was. It certainly doesn't catch the eye in any way, shape or form. Instead, how about little angel and demon icons, representing just how good or bad you've been? Just a thought...

penciljack
09-16-2004, 04:02 PM
Two gripes: I miss the Sketchbook section and I don't like being able to click the profile of the person under the title of their post. If I miss I have to wait for that extra page to upload.

If you click on the member's name, you should get a link to a "public profile" amongst a popup menu of other links.

Spidey
09-21-2004, 01:26 PM
He's talking about the names that are under the thread titles. You don't get a drop down menu then, you just go to the person's profile. It's not such a big deal though. There's enough space to seperate them.

James42
01-15-2005, 03:06 AM
Hopefully someone will read this. I saw MC Fumunda talking about how he could see who gave him a reputation point in another thread, how do you do this? I got one and a comment but I don't know who it's from.

Phil Clark
01-15-2005, 06:41 AM
That is a function that was supposed to be, and now is, only available to moderators.

F!
01-15-2005, 08:13 AM
Actually, it'd be nice to know who's added to my rep, so I can thank them.

Phil Clark
01-15-2005, 08:54 AM
The problem is that people could also see who gave them negative reputation points. And I think you can see how that could be mis-used. So it is better to leave it 100% anonymous.

James42
01-16-2005, 01:42 AM
Well with my reputation I got called a 'pompous ass'..it's just kind of irritating if someone can say that anonymously and I can't respond to see why they said that etc. I get where you're coming from with it though. I think it might create more opportunities for assholery