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I took this to San Diego.. I'd love to get some critiques and just plain helpful advice.
If this were on the stands, would you buy it? If not, why?
How can I improve this.
click here for the full size pages (http://www.th-id.com/whoisthefox)
If you click on the link, you notice a beautiful painted pic along with the other pages.
This painting was done by my friend who wrote this story( a fellow artist, who happens to be a painter)
07-31-2003, 04:58 PM
Hey Riq man, You sure changed up your style. Looks like you absorbed Stelfreeze's color technique quite nicely there. Don't know if I like the color scheme though. Very Hard to read what's going on. Everything looks very Professional. Not sure there's room for another Vigilante team in the Market though I really like the Marker comps. Gotta work on the female faces though. They don't look pretty or normal. Could have added a few openly gun toting bad guys in the first page.
You're right about the overdone vigilante team idea. But that's why I like this comic... It's not about the superheroing( if I can use such a word) The story is about the characters( the vigilante team thing is just a excuse to draw a couple of fight scenes and motorcycles)
You're right about my bad guys.. Mase( another penciljacker) told me they look more like normal guys.. I had forgotten about his comment until I had already finished everything.. You guys are right though.
About the women.. I don't mind if they aren't "pretty" but I am concerned if they're not looking normal.. Could you point out some specific things that are going wrong with the faces..
One more thing Justice.. Those aren't marker comps.. Just Photoshop.. I use a brush sset with a low opacity to get the effect.
07-31-2003, 05:52 PM
I have no useful critiques but I just wanted to say, I'd buy it. I think the overall look is great. I like the color scheme you got going on. It is a bit hard to follow but I think that's just because it's so small.
Great stuff !!
"The Link young Skywalker, use the Link!"
If the pics are too small to see, you can, drumroll, click on the link for bigger ones.. ( I say this in jest)
Bindlestitch, I'd love you to the pages fullsize; of course you"ll then realize that size does matter, and this may be a case where smaller is better. But you can throw some cool critiques my way just as well.
I posted small, because I didn't want to overload anyone who is still cursed with the blinding speed of a dial up connection.
07-31-2003, 06:20 PM
It´s good, but I´m not sure about the women, their faces look funny, also the extreme change of colors in all the panels makes the composition heavy, you should work on that.
07-31-2003, 06:26 PM
heh. I have that problem a lot. You know, the whole "not reading all the way through the post" thing. I always flunked those stupid tests in school that were testing nothing but your ability to follow the directions. Why? Because I'm an impatient moron.:(
Anyway, I followed the link and I have to say that I really like it. It's not in least bit confusing. I'm afraid I can't give any skilled critiques because I don't have all of the "panel placement" knowledge and so forth that it requires. When I like something I like it and this I like.
So hang in there Rig, keep showing it and keep at it.
Later , Stitch
07-31-2003, 07:54 PM
To be specific, Your design for Kitty looks like Michael Jackson/ The nose tip is too far up and there's too much distance between her nose and lips. The male facial features are spot on.Try to not make the female Jaw so prominent, tends to make them look masculine.
When coloring you have to keep in mind that red colors tend to come forward while blues receed. You use a combo of both with the mauves and purples. That kinda plattens everything out. If your really going to use color to emphasize the feel and tone of each panel your gonna have to be conscious of consistency. If you use reads or oranges to show danger or anger you have to follow that throughout.
You used the red Purple thing right in panel 1 pg 3, then you reversed it in panels 2 and 4. This caused the main figure to receed into the back while your backround red pushed forward. It takes some getting used to. But Yeah, If the cover is what you have there, I would certainly be interested enough to pick it up.
07-31-2003, 07:58 PM
Oh another thing, if the bad guys had guns, they would have been shooting from the get go. So some of what you drew would not have happened like you have it. If the force that moved in at the end is so sophisticated how come they couldn't track the motorcyle as it was fleeing? Some logic in story telling, issues need to be addressed. hey riq, don't you remember? Me, you, Mase and your other friend met at Mega-Con last March.
07-31-2003, 11:18 PM
Man, looks like I run across your work everywhere EXCEPT the news stand! What's wrong with the industry people!?! I fully admit that you've always been a lot bigger on color than I am and your work is usually more "art" than "comic" but, I've been waiting to get my hands on your work in book form since we first met nearly ten years ago! Now about the work... I agree that its a bit difficult to follow but, it probably can't be helped since you were working from a script. The color is a little distracting for me but very interesting overall. Even if I didn't like the work, it's the kind of thing that I'd buy and take home just to ponder it and try to get into the artist's head; figure out where he was headed and decide, carefully, wheather I like the direction or not. It's good stuff. Your rendering and style are THERE, man! And on an unrelated note, I like what you did with Dex's sketchbook! You should have told him to make fewer copies in a slightly larger format. Anyway, I think the industry needs guys like you to break up the monotony a little more! I'm looking forward to putting down my money for some of your work. KEEP IT UP!:D
07-31-2003, 11:33 PM
Okay. I looked at the full sized pages (which I didn't do at first because I'm cursed with 56k Chinese water torture ) and found that they acutally weren't hard to follow. The storytelling does takes some giant steps but actually, it's about perfect!
awesome stuff man! it definitively looks pro!
Jeez, I'd buy that. The only real problem I have with any of those pages is the font that you used. A little hard on the eyes.
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