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Killer_gym_sox
07-28-2003, 05:25 PM
hey guys its me again. Umm i tried to draw another body.. Practicing to get better.. Anyways no matter how much i practice i cant get the legs right.. Plus all my heads look kinda funny. But anyways you can look at what i got so far.. i reffed the pic but with comic books they prefer 8 head lengths so the legs are longer.. So i wasnt able to ref the legs.. i dunno.. NEWAYS here is the pic

http://www.deviantart.com/view/2542114

please comment and critique.. i need it

Killer_gym_sox
07-28-2003, 09:13 PM
not very many people in the sketchbook section lately. Hmmm.. Well anyways any crits would help. If you dont feel confident enuf or if u feel you will hurt my feelings bah get over it. I dont care let the crits fly. I know the legs suck wang. Especially the leg on the left (his right leg). I tried to draw lines where i saw them in the reference but i messed up on it. The head isnt supposed to have a face.. i just kinda messed with it a tiny bit so it doesnt look blank and distract from the rest of the body.. the body (besides head) is what i need crits on. And maybe a lil help on how i should tackle the parts im struggling with. Vinnlander1313 really helps because he gives me diagrams AND he edits my very own drawings sometimes with a "corrected" look. I dont ask any of you guys to do that. Just want honest good crits and comments. Serious comments. I gotta get this anatomy thing locked down better. But i do agree im improving. when i look back at all the other drawings that i have done in the past... Well anatomy wise.. I know where certain muscles are and their shapes better than before. But i got there with people's help. Cant wait to hear your crits and comments :)

thanks for looking

Senshi
07-28-2003, 09:35 PM
Well first off Thumbs up for making it a very detailed anatomy study! I like that.. Some crits I have... To me his shoulder seem a little narrow and his actual shoulder muscles a little too small. I'd say everything else was good until you get to the pelvic region. Things aren't right here I think... The legs are a little stalky looking but I think they work. Those are just some things that I think should be reworked. I think it is a really good sketch though, and I like the face. :)

Jeremy Colwell
07-28-2003, 09:42 PM
Anatomy is not my high suit, but here goes.

It looks off balanced. Kind of looks like he's leaning towards us too much.

Deltoids look too small. They may be possible, but compared to the masses around them, biceps, pecs, clavicles, they seem disproportionate.

Hand and feet look a bit stumpy and under defined. They seem to lack defined bone structure inside.

Hope that's enough to chew on for awhile. Forgive me if it is too harsh. I didn't comment on the positives, because there are too many. :D

Jeremy

Killer_gym_sox
07-29-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by J. Colwell
1. Forgive me if it is too harsh.

2. I didn't comment on the positives, because there are too many. :D

1. no no no i except harsh crits.. And i dont think they are harsh because they can only help me. I dont take offense when you take the time to review my work and take a couple minutes from you life to help someone you dont even know. I respect your comments. I respect those who help me. Even those who just view.. it at least tells me people are willing to SEE what i have done. I appreciate it greatly. You too senshi!

2. Wow.. that actually boosts my self esteem a TON! It makes me want to try harder and perserveer. Thanks for the support. Infact im gonna go draw some more now :)

i dont really like my style.... im too bored with it :( Do you guys think my style needs some adjustment? I dunno

vinnlander1313
07-29-2003, 01:28 AM
pretty good sox. the main thing that looks wrong is it is off kilter. the way the image is posted, it is rotated counter clockwise. rotate him 10 degrees or so clockwise and then his center of gravity will be right. a person's center of gravity is muy importante in posing the figure. also his delts are a little small in comparison to his pecs, but that isnt what is throwin it off for me. you nailed his right(our left) shoulder, deltoid and pec. the other one isnt so hot. see, the muscles radiate from the point of the deltoid. then the lower area of the pecs radiate from under the arm. see the correct side for reference. good job. the other one, at some point started to radiate from the nipple. see how in the correct pec how there is a horozontal line running across the middle of the pec? that should be in the left one as well. finally, the fact that his center line curves at the end and doesnt seem to line up with his groin, and how you have that lower area shaded give the impression of a bulge that looks unnatural. i would relax in that area, straighten the one line and soften up the shading. the lowest abs into the groin area is a hard place to have definition, meaning those muscles are usually hinted at, and are less defined. anyway, this is a very good study sox. it is important to try to understand the 3d shapes and surfaces you are trying to draw. make sure that when you have a 2d referenc in front of you that you arent just trying to mimic the lines. you need to ask yourself what the shape is that the 2d image is showing you. does that make any sense? i think you are staring to do that but it is important make that process concious. ;cap;

Killer_gym_sox
07-29-2003, 02:02 AM
ive been trying to section the muscles off and think of them as shapes. Like the deltoids look like a half circle that is cupped at the bottom and is stretching towards the rest of the arm. And stuff like that. I dunno if that made sense. But im trying to think of things in a complex way. Like the sternocleidomastoid and how it is a strand of muscle from the side of the head to the front. Im trying to see how the muscles are rounded and shaped. Trying to study the bulge. Im really really really having trouble with the legs. I can study and get the face down on my own time but the LEGS and the BACK muscles are hard.. Its just hard to memorize the back muscles and how they stretch. Im doing extensive study for now. Today (the 29th) im going down to the college to try to get in... hopefully i still can. anyways thanks for the constant support. If i ever make it big ill remember you :D

hence the word "if"