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Killer_gym_sox
06-30-2003, 09:20 PM
its a really really fast sketch of a guy i made up. Anyways... I know things arent even and perfect but like i said it was quick. Im trying to get it to look right. I know his lip isnt straight but i meant to do that. I need to learn how to stretch the face muscles to make different expressions. Anyways how does it look proportions/anatomy wise?

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/really_fast_sketch_practice.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/really_fast_sketch_practice.jpg

Killer_gym_sox
06-30-2003, 09:24 PM
god when i look at my sketches or even drawings it looks like im in 7th grade... :mad:

whoreable
06-30-2003, 09:51 PM
http://members.cox.net/greyfox42/fixed.JPG

Killer_gym_sox
06-30-2003, 10:15 PM
??

Killer_gym_sox
06-30-2003, 11:33 PM
ya know what.. im sick of it. No matter how much i practice no matter how much i study.. I CANT FRICKEN GET ANYTHING RIGHT! Take a life drawing class they tell me.. study from a ton of anatomy books they say.. ppfff... screw it! i dont think ill ever get there.. I guess i really what my drawings to look like this (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33562) ! Sorry for the whining.. im just sick of the artistic slump ive been in for WAY TO LONG!

DrunkenMaster
06-30-2003, 11:53 PM
I understand your pain my friend....and you can try what I did to get better I stopped doing pin ups and went straight into mostly doing sequentials...that way your art will at least be consistant and it will look more like its just your "style"...anyway cheer up buddy and drink a beer!


D. Master

whoreable
07-01-2003, 12:55 AM
I suggest a different style, change your pencils, start trying to draw realistic, use some images that are random, which you can apply creativity to the piece, redraw it and then you can get practice and learn real anatomy and pick good poses and head angles!

penciljack
07-01-2003, 01:27 AM
Frustration with your artwork is natural, especially when you aren't able to take what you see in your head and transfer it to the paper. It happens to all of us.

I don't have any sort of fancy trick to tell you how to make what's in your mind match what's on the paper, other than to tell you to keep drawing. Maybe it's time to do some targeted practice, though. Find the one area of your artwork that you're most dissatisfied with right now. Is it body proportions? Is it musculature? Perhaps it's facial expressions, hands, feet, clothes, or something else?

Whatever it is, pick that aspect, and resolve yourself to becoming an expert on it. Study it, draw it, study it some more, draw it some more. Keep at it. Keep at it until you don't have to think so hard about it anymore. Then pick the next aspect.

I won't kid you - it's long and arduous, but if you're serious about wanting to move forward with your artwork, it's going to take long hours at the drawing board.

I'll point out, too, that you're railing against your own drawing here, when you yourself admitted it was a "quick" drawing. I know I'd hate to be judged on something I just cranked out in a matter of minutes, especially if I was the judge! Take your time, and don't worry about using your eraser. Don't be afraid to spend time with your drawings.

Killer_gym_sox
07-01-2003, 03:39 AM
thanks.. ya i know its gonna take a long time.. just wish i had a remote control to my life.. pause some moments.. and ff through a TON.. maybe rewind and then record some moments too :D

i have another sketch up... its fast also but its something different

statezero
07-01-2003, 08:35 AM
all i can suggest man is to keep on drawing. you dont even have to draw them fully rendered neither. i say go out buy yourself a sketch book and draw tons and tons of gesture line drawings man. afterawhile the anatomy just comes naturally. try sketching out real loose lines. i perfer charcoal too. it makes them look more dynamic.

and actually id like to see some of your gesture drawings if you do sketch em!

Killer_gym_sox
07-01-2003, 02:53 PM
i guess but i was never good at gesture.. My gesture drawings suck too.. haha

protagon
07-01-2003, 03:38 PM
You're self-handicapping. You do quick drawings because then if people say they're bad you can just say, "Oh, well, it was quick."

Do an intense drawing and be proud of it. Don't settle for imperfections.

Killer_gym_sox
07-01-2003, 05:13 PM
im practicing the hulk right now..

fatmancomics
07-02-2003, 03:47 PM
This isn't really a trick but what I used to do was picture the character I came up with looking like someone in real life. An actor, someone you know or someone who you just happened to see in the bus and thought they had an interesting look.
I do also agree that you shouldn't be spending all your time doing quick sketches. Those are great for warm-ups but you have to really sit down and make a complete composition after you've done that. I sat down to REALLY draw for the first time in ages yesterday and I was pretty happy with the results. It helped me realize that all the stuff I'm posting on here is crap (and I'm not posting all that much but it's still crap nonetheless) and I gotta quit doing that.
Just remember how many good responses you got when you posted that zombie in the swamp drawing. Everyone was letting you know how far you've come along and then you start posting quickly made drawings and it looks like you took a step backwards.
Don't get me wrong, at least you're drawing but, is that what you want to do? The least?
Oh yeah, stop avoiding the hands BTW. You crossed this guy's arms in order to hide them. Stop doing that.

Killer_gym_sox
07-02-2003, 05:59 PM
haha i wasnt even aware that i chose a pose where the hands are not revealed.. Im not trying to hide the hands. I just forget.. Anyways yes i agree with you. I should stop doing sketches and start doing full on drawings. anyways thanks fatman. Ill try it and ill ask you to look at it when im done.. I dunno about the whole "drawing a character from a real life person" thing because my brain isnt that cooperative in thinking up stuff