View Full Version : Hulk vs Spawn - Phil vs Juan Battle (K.O.- Phil Clark)
Phil Clark
02-13-2003, 09:15 PM
Well, the deadline has come and it is time for the voting to begin. A lot of mud has been slung between me and Juan in the last week, all in great fun. Now we both put up, and you decide who needs to shut up. So here we go.
First, my art:
http://www.images-eye.com/arena_art/spawn-hulk-lores.jpg
And Now, heeeeeeeres Juans:
http://www.juansoriginalart.com/hulkspawn.jpg
Now, you decide who wins this battle.
I voted for Phil, because I appreciate the fact that he was up for this challenge. This was actually alot of fun to do and I hope he wins. Good luck man.
Morganza
02-13-2003, 09:57 PM
I voted for Phil, you got owned slappy!
dfbovey
02-13-2003, 09:58 PM
Nice job by the both of you, should be a very close battle. It's also been fun to watch, good luck to you both!
Originally posted by Morganza
I voted for Phil, you got owned slappy!
You only voted for Phil because you know I ****ing hate you, ****ing tracer.
;dvl;
Phil Clark
02-13-2003, 09:59 PM
Thanks Juan. I felt I had to push myself because I have seen the level of detail you often go to. This is going to be interesting watching the voting. Man, your Hulk is huge. I went with a more 70's Hulk. My classic take on the hulk. Back when he was a mere 7 feet tall.
Classic vs new style. Another dimension to the battle.
Morganza
02-13-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Juan
You only voted for Phil because you know I ****ing hate you, ****ing tracer.
;dvl;
I voted for Phil because he obviously knows what he's doing, his characters are battling( actually interacting), they are well rendered, WHere yours loks like you traced a halfassed McFarlane comic.
Originally posted by Morganza
I voted for Phil because he obviously knows what he's doing, his characters are battling( actually interacting), they are well rendered, WHere yours loks like you traced a halfassed McFarlane comic.
*adds Morgan to his ignore list*
I'm so tired of your shit.
;dvl;
Morganza
02-13-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Juan
*adds Morgan to his ignore list*
I'm so tired of your shit.
;dvl;
Nice work Phil.
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dfbovey
02-13-2003, 10:15 PM
You two should get married already.
:D
Morganza
02-14-2003, 01:21 AM
That would be a crime against nature on sooo many levels.
Beastie
02-14-2003, 04:21 AM
Phil gets my vote, for not copying McFarlane.
You can't deny it, Juan.
Its SO close to MacFarlane's version that you should be ashamed.
;dvl;
Originally posted by Beastie
Phil gets my vote, for not copying McFarlane.
You can't deny it, Juan.
Its SO close to MacFarlane's version that you should be ashamed.
;dvl;
Umm okay, I should be ashamed for drawing the Hulk version that I like best, while Phil drew the version he prefers. **** THAT! I can draw whatever the **** I want...
menace
02-14-2003, 07:50 AM
mucho respect, to both of yall. But alas, Phil got the vote. I felt that since it was a splash page/pin-up that both characters should be represented face front and recognizable right off the bat. That's it. The drawings are amazing and the different homages to the styles are kisk-a$$.
Thanks for the drawings!;cap;
Beastie
02-14-2003, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Juan
Umm okay, I should be ashamed for drawing the Hulk version that I like best, while Phil drew the version he prefers. **** THAT! I can draw whatever the **** I want...
You're absolutely right.
You carry on.
;)
Vegeta
02-14-2003, 08:59 AM
I like both of them...but I say Phil gets the edge because of his very good figure placement and anatomy.Plus he showed both heros facing the viewer in the battle scene.Congrats to both on producing some sharp art.
Paul M.
02-14-2003, 11:27 AM
I voted for Phill, Muahahahahaha
nate lovett
02-14-2003, 11:59 AM
i went with phil here, for the reason that others have said, that being both characters are facing the front.
both pic are really good. but it just bothered me that all we got was the back of spawn in juan's.
I voted for Phil. Both are great pieces, but I agree with everything that's been said already.
InkDrop
02-14-2003, 02:32 PM
Nice job gentlemen. I was rooting a bit for Juan on this on...i give him shit because i know he can take it and dish. Anywho I voted for Phil mainly because of the chains.
Juan...I hate the way you gimped out on the chains. It's the little things that make me happy:D
PEACE,
Drop
Carter
02-14-2003, 05:04 PM
How come Spawn's hand is all lit up, but the Hulk is all in shadow?
Carter
02-14-2003, 05:05 PM
PS. I voted Juan in any case. I was just wondering what the deal was behind the shadow.
--Carter--
Originally posted by The Enemy Brain
How come Spawn's hand is all lit up, but the Hulk is all in shadow?
[excuse]I hacked the bottom part of this piece because I was running out of time, hence all the black area...I know, I know...it's wrong...but I did the best I could with the amount of time I had.[excuse/]
;dvl;
Originally posted by InkDrop
It's the little things that make me happy:D
PEACE,
Drop
Yeah, that's what your boyfriend said about you too. For shame...
;dvl;
Logan
02-14-2003, 07:07 PM
i voted for Phil for a buncha reasons,
Composition
Interaction of Figures
Didn't make Hulk look like a ****ing mongloid
He drew chains that didn't suck hard
What I liked about Johnny Juan Dog's is how he drew spawn from behind and nailed it. Good job on that. ;bat;
Originally posted by Logan
Didn't make Hulk look like a ****ing mongloid
Please don't say that again to me, my brother is handicapped and stuff like that REALLY pisses me off...
I'm not playing.
RavioliDog
02-14-2003, 09:59 PM
DAMN **** U ALL JUAN"S PIC KICKS 1000 TIMES MORE ASS THAN PHIL"S !!!!!!
WHATS WITHA LL THE HATE DIRECTED TOWARDS JUAN??!?!
HE LIKES MCFALANE SO HE DRAWS A HULK IN MFARLANE STYLE!!!!
I WENT WITH HIS!!!
DONT HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME!!!!
(ps i got nothing against u phil)
Dude, everyone's just clowning me cause of all the shit I say on these boards...it's okay. Phil and I had fun with this and that's what counts.
Phil Clark
02-14-2003, 10:35 PM
Yeah, besides... Juan could do a lot worse than drawing like McFarlane anyway. So all you others should back off.
Lessin' you wanna go with me...
In another battle that is. ;)
I think we need an example Phil:
http://www.juansoriginalart.com/alien.jpg
Steampunk
02-15-2003, 12:27 AM
while juan's spawn is cool, it doesn't work for a pinup to have his back to us...don't care for the mcfarlane hulk
phil's is solid on both characters, nice interaction, he gets my vote
DEVin
02-15-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by RavioliDog
DAMN **** U ALL JUAN"S PIC KICKS 1000 TIMES MORE ASS THAN PHIL"S !!!!!!
WHATS WITHA LL THE HATE DIRECTED TOWARDS JUAN??!?!
HE LIKES MCFALANE SO HE DRAWS A HULK IN MFARLANE STYLE!!!!
I WENT WITH HIS!!!
DONT HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME!!!!
(ps i got nothing against u phil)
Heh, this is my favorite reply.
...o...k....
02-15-2003, 01:32 AM
:confused: Is Spawn punching Hulk in the nads? :confused:
:D
Ra Havok
02-15-2003, 04:56 AM
I voted Juan.
His spawn won me over. doesn't matter if he is turned away from the viewer...
But yeah, the mcfarlane thing... :rolleyes:
I liked Phil's too, but it wasn't as refined as Juan's.
Originally posted by DEVin
Heh, this is my favorite reply.
This was MY favorite reply...doesn't everyone love a smartass kid?
;dvl;
Beastie
02-15-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Juan
doesn't everyone love a smartass kid?
.......... and so the Michael Jackson debate continues.......... :D
RavioliDog
02-15-2003, 10:02 AM
got a little carried away back there
i just think its not right to hate on a picture cuz it looks similar to another artists style..
we need to squash the beef
Kaligula
02-15-2003, 11:30 AM
I could care less about the whole McFarlane thing, that's a style crit. In terms of actual layout, I think Phil's composition edge's Juan's out. I do wish we could see more of Juan's Spawn than his cape, so he could flex more of his drawing capabilities tho.
ABUCUS9595
02-16-2003, 09:23 PM
Wow a lot of things stand out to me, in Phils I really like the chains, Spawns eyes, Hulks Face, and Hulks Pose, but in Juans I love the spikes and Spawns whole left arm, Hulks hand are awesome cuz they are so huge, and for some odd reason I think you did an awesome job with hulks teeeth. In the end I had to cote for Phil mainly because I can see spawns face it makes it more visualy appealing as a pin up if this were sequential I proly would have went with Juan.
Spidey
02-17-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Morganza
I voted for Phil, you got owned slappy!
PWEND!!
jgmcomics
02-19-2003, 08:56 AM
I voted for Phil. I gotta be honest I liked the original sketch better for Juan's. The one where Spawn was off the the right. I just don't like the fact that the characters back is to the camera. I like the art and teh rendering but not the placement of the characters.
GroundHog
02-20-2003, 04:28 AM
I'm going to vote for Juan on this one because:
1. the hulk vs spawn, what else should one aim for but to draw both characters in Mcfarlane style, he did the hulk, he created spawn. the ideal was good
2.everybody already knows that phil had a better overall composition.
Devilman
02-21-2003, 07:56 AM
****, i can't decide. They're both good, I'll just say i vote for spawn or somethign cheesy like that so i won't have to choose. Pretty good work here fellas.
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