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Black Ryu
09-25-2002, 11:45 AM
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13350

Chris Piers
09-25-2002, 11:51 AM
I read that. It just sounded... awful. I don't get why WB is so into it.

Beastie
09-25-2002, 11:58 AM
I read about half of it and then just gave up.......

I hope they scrap it.

:( :mad:

thepunisher
09-25-2002, 12:04 PM
Sounded pretty good to me-






To wipe my ass with!!!!!!

Hazard
09-25-2002, 12:38 PM
"IT WAS MINE!"

Bruce
09-25-2002, 12:51 PM
:mad:

Actually I dont think I would expect anything else from the WB

But still

ALLGOLD
09-25-2002, 02:26 PM
this sounds great.....matrix-like kung fu fighting between superman and an equally powerful 50 year old lex luthor in the air,(lex apparentley is from space now, with powers just like superman) SUPERMAN KNOWS KUNG FU!!!! gay jimmy olsen, superman dies in the movie, then his father on krypton ARGUES him out of dying........how does one get job writing screenplays that suck this bad? someone got paid big $$$$ for this p.o.s. thanks a lot jerk-offs, lets ruin another big comic franchise!!
g r e a t

The unknown artist
09-25-2002, 02:48 PM
I can't tell you how hard I was laughing when I read this. It's so bad it seems like it's a joke. Like it's not the reall script. Like they're trying to throw us off.

Exiter
09-25-2002, 02:51 PM
that has summer blockbuster written all over it

Lex Luthor-Kryptonian?! Thats Gold Jerry, Gold!!

Exiter
09-25-2002, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by The unknown artist
I can't tell you how hard I was laughing when I read this. It's so bad it seems like it's a joke. Like it's not the reall script. Like they're trying to throw us off.

thats exactly what i was thinking..i kept looking at my calendar to make sure it wasnt April

Chris Piers
09-25-2002, 02:57 PM
Here's the story. Krypton is doomed and Jor-El sends his infant son to earth right before it explodes. Superman lands in Smallville and is raised as the son of Martha and Jonathan Kent. He's taught decent, American values and grows up to be a responsible human being. He discovers his powers at puberty and learns about his Kryptonian past from his ship. He creates the Fortress of Solitude. Goes to Metropolis and joins the Daily Planet where he meets Perry, Lois, Jimmy and Lex Luthor.

Lex is a billionaire who owns Metropolis. When Superman shows up to save Lois Lane and reveal himself to the world, Lex does everything he can to get rid of Superman and control his city. He funds the Metallo project and Superman fights and beats Metallo. Lex escapes 'cuz he's got the money and influence. He's above the law.

At it's core, we have Clark Kent, who, even though he is not truly human, is really the most human of us all. Then he fights Brainiac or the Phantom Zone criminals in the next one, all thanks to Lex's manipulating. It's really hard to mess up. These things just ARE Superman, they don't change.

Kaligula
09-25-2002, 03:10 PM
Somehow I think this has to be some elaborate joke.

Hazard
09-25-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Kaligula
Somehow I think this has to be some elaborate joke.
yeah, i mean c'mon jor'el convinces superman not to be dead anymore? lex a kryptonian? but then again, think batman and robin, chock full o' dumb shit like rubber nipples and the "bat credit card"

Popninja
09-25-2002, 04:58 PM
I say they should make this, BUT don't call it SUPERMAN.

Call it Mighty Man. Or Fab-O-Man. Or just anything other than Superman. red7ine started a thread in News and Announcements about this, and it just seems like a bad idea to me. It's doomed from the start, and reading this treatment just makes it seem like an inevitable doom-fest.

I hate Warner Bros.

dmario
09-25-2002, 10:49 PM
JJ Abrams MUST have been smoking crack with 2 dutch hookers to write this.

WB is scuffling to ride the coat tails of Spiderman and it wont happen.

they waited too long. SPidey did it first and even if the Superman movies kicks arse, it wont get anywhere NEAR what Spidey got.

Tight-Pants Jack
09-25-2002, 11:15 PM
There's no way this is real. It can't be real. I refuse to believe than anyone could be this stupid.

It's as if they're trying to take the whole "Ultimate" approach in reinventing Superman. But, I have no reason to worry since there's no way I'll believe this is real. Even if I see it in theaters, I will stand up and refuse it until I die.

Then again, DC did give us an electric blue Superman for his 50th birthday. . . .

TheFightingFoetus
09-25-2002, 11:35 PM
I for one, won't be the least bit suprised if I see the name Schumacher attached to this caped-turd.

Superman with nipples anybody? Ooooh, hello there Jimmy Olson, my 'super-pal'! ;)

TheFightingFoetus
09-25-2002, 11:45 PM
You know, after reading this, I say to myself, this would kick ass, if it were a new character, and NOT Superman.

I like how some of this story reads, and the interesting turns that it takes, but seriously, Luthor, a Kryptonian master of Kung-Fu?

I'm going to go gag on some kryptonite.

Tight-Pants Jack
09-25-2002, 11:53 PM
Don't forget the "effiminate Jimmy Olsen."

Ugh.

Popninja
09-26-2002, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus
You know, after reading this, I say to myself, this would kick ass, if it were a new character, and NOT Superman.

That's exactly what I said.

FIG
09-26-2002, 02:12 AM
......Come on people, its a joke. It has to be. The WB can be dense but no one is this stupid, are they? What about the suit that attaches itself to Superman?-Can you same LAME. This is a joke, think of the money they'd have to waste to make it. Its impossible, aside from being ridiculous crap. It would be the most expensive flop since Waterworld

The unknown artist
09-26-2002, 08:41 AM
Yeh it'll suck, but it'll probably still make money just because it's called Superman. Btman and robin sucked ass and stil made bout 100 mill.

TheFightingFoetus
09-26-2002, 09:58 AM
......Come on people, its a joke. It has to be. The WB can be dense but no one is this stupid, are they? What about the suit that attaches itself to Superman?-Can you same LAME. This is a joke, think of the money they'd have to waste to make it. Its impossible, aside from being ridiculous crap. It would be the most expensive flop since Waterworld

Fig man, I wouldn't put it past the WB. Remember, this is the company that thinks it'll be hip to release a Wonder Twins movie. Maybe they'll sneak in a Steel/Shaq cameo...:rolleyes:

Inkthinker
09-26-2002, 07:26 PM
I read the synopsis from the link... and sorry to say, I think it's potentially legit. What an awful, awful concept... out of the whole stinking morass of sewage I think there was maybe one or two nice ideas (I did like the bit on the mountaintop where he hears the cries for help from around the world) but overall it's putrid...

With any luck DC can have some sort of veto on this, but considering that DC is actually lower on the Time Warner ladder here than WB that may not happen...

FIG
09-26-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus Fig man, I wouldn't put it past the WB. Remember, this is the company that thinks it'll be hip to release a Wonder Twins movie. Maybe they'll sneak in a Steel/Shaq cameo...:rolleyes:

Too true but you fail to realize that all the action sequences in the film make this ridiculously expensive, we're probably talking hundreds of millions of dollars. Think 10 times the action of Independence Day mixed with martial arts and superman battling it out through skyscrapers. It sounds way to expensive for just one movie, and they want to make a trilogy. I don't think any studio is willing to blow 400 million per picture on a trilogy, it sounds to far-fetched. Before you know it this one will be rewritten or axed, take your pic.

TheFightingFoetus
09-26-2002, 08:09 PM
Time will tell. But let's not forget the already aforementioned 'Water-World'. That was what, 220 million?

I can envision WB execs, hopped up on k, coke, and ecxstacy totally green-lighting this.

Black Ryu
09-26-2002, 10:26 PM
Just out of curiousity, what was so bad about Waterworld? I haven't seen it.

Inkthinker
09-26-2002, 10:39 PM
Bad writing... beautiful sets, gorgeous scenes, but bad writing, espescially the entire concept behind the villians.

It's a decent rental, I suppose...

wadew
09-26-2002, 10:59 PM
I read the review of this script. It sounds like total crap.
While i read it i was like "good god.....this could be 100 times worse than Batman and Robin".
This looks like another case of hollywood morons "re-imagining" a comic character because you know....comic creators and comic fans are retards .
Review of the Superman script by JJ Abrams and Jon Peters-

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13350


WB officially announces that Brett Ratner(guh....) is directing, is working from the JJ Abrams, Jon Peters script:

http://www.superherohype.com/cgi-bin/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1033004412,10728,

and if you don't want to read the whole script review i'll run down what i thought was lame:

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1.)Krypton never explodes. Instead Clark is sent to earth because of some kind of "prophecy"
2.)young super clark brutally beats a guy that tries to rape ma kent
3.)Superman's Costume in a can: Clark find a canister, opens it, out comes the superman costume that floats around or something
4.)Lex Luthor is a special agent for the CIA.
5.)Superman Dies
6.)Jor-el senses that superman is dead, kills himself, goes to heaven, talks to supes and convinces Clark that he can't die
7.)Supes digs himself out of his own grave
8.)Apparently Jimmy Olsen is gay......for no reason
9.)Lois and Clark meet for the first time at a kegger
10.)Superman knows Kung fu (aka there are flying kung fu action sequences)
11.)At the end Lex Luthor reveals that he is from krypton.
12.)Final battle= Superman vs. A flying, Superpowered Lex Luthor .
13.) Pa Kent dies
14.) Film ends with supes flying off in a rocket, heading back to krypton for training?

Good Lord.

Inkthinker
09-26-2002, 11:24 PM
Harry Knowles of Ain't it Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com) made a very good point (there are many opinions of Knowles and I'm not interested in debating whether or not he's a dipwad or not... in this case, he makes a good point)

This isn't Superman.

So fight it... and whatever you do, if it emerges in the form that's written so far, then BOYCOTT it. Don't go see it, regardless of whether or not reviews are good or bad, just skip it. There's plenty of great films, great COMICS films on the horizon. But if the people who are making the films insist on changing the material we love to suit themselves and their pocketbooks (another thing that Harry points out, and which I had forgotten, is that by making changes like this the writers and producers get more money because now they've invested a greater share of intellectual propery rights...) then the best way to change it is to simply refuse to support it.

I am not a huge fan of Superman, but I am a fan of comics and of film. And I can fight this, by simply refusing to watch it. As long as the script reads anything close to this, they sure as hell won't get a nickel from me.

Spidey
09-27-2002, 01:39 AM
Im not enough of a Superman fan to read all that. I could care less how its gonna turn out. If it were the script for Spider-Man 2 on the other hand....Hooyah!

Popninja
09-27-2002, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus
Time will tell. But let's not forget the already aforementioned 'Water-World'. That was what, 220 million?

I can envision WB execs, hopped up on k, coke, and ecxstacy totally green-lighting this.

But, you have to remember that what made Waterworld so costly was that all of it was filmed on water. Titanic, I believe, was costly for almost the same reasons. Before Waterworld, T2 was supposedly the costliest movie and look how that sucker turned out. Now THAT was good movie making.

This script, on the other hand, with all of it's large scale battles, will be extremely costly. Extremely. It ain't 1980, so what we thought were incredible battle sequences a'la Superman II, just won't hold up today. In order to do it right, so it looks even remotely realistic, they will have to pump a shitload of money into it.

I say it can't be done. I like what Inkthinker said, though. If this is the route they choose, we should all boycott it.

Jedmo9000
09-27-2002, 02:00 PM
Theres hope afterall - From Dark Horizons-

"Superman Lives: Superman Cinema has posted up an item about internal reaction to the biggest news of the week: "Warner Bros. are absolutely furious at AICN's review of the script and is in complete panic mode. Heads are rolling and the entire studio is in turmoil. It seems they are scared to death they may have another BATMAN & ROBIN situation on their hands (they do) where negative buzz kills the film before it is even released. This time before it is even shot! The entire project is now in jeopardy and that they may have to throw out the entire script and start over. Someone who HATED the script and fought against it is the one who leaked it. But basically, there are a few people in the company who understand how bad the script is. Btw, the studio heads, many of them have never seen the Donner film and do not know ANYTHING about the origins of SUPERMAN, which explains why they loved the Luthor is an alien concept". Thanks to 'FanHalen'. "

Akira X
09-27-2002, 04:21 PM
If that is 100% true, then I will kiss you, stranger.

FIG
09-27-2002, 04:33 PM
I question the validity of that statement since I was watching CNN yesterday and saw in the damned ticker tape that Brett Ratner was going to direct the next Superman flick. When I saw that I was extremely pissed, confirming my belief that maybe this ridiculous pile of cr@p is going to get made:confused:. Hopefullysomeone high up the corporate ladder at Warner Brothers steps in and realizes that the idiots making these decisions should be fired and he needs to bring in a comic writer as a story consultant. The writer of 'The Ultimates' would do nicely, I think its Mark Millar?

Inkthinker
09-27-2002, 05:59 PM
Well, if the Dark Horizons bit is to be believed, then it would seem that all the talk we've been doing (here and on just about every comics and movie forum that I know of) has made a difference. Hopefull they will scrap the script as is and start over with someone that actually knows what they're doing.

Justice41
09-28-2002, 01:08 AM
Superman Script Stirs Controversy
Posted by
Joe Hendren
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A number of reports have recently emerged regarding the next film version of Superman.

Earlier in the week, Ain’t it Cool News posted a review of a draft of J. J. Abrams’ Superman screenplay. The highly-negative review gives a detailed look at the script, which drastically changes the comic book icon’s origin. The report has fans in an uproar and has allegedly shaken up the project at the studio.

The report does offer a number of potential SPOILERS if this script is actually one that may be produced. So, proceed to the review with caution.

Meanwhile, the Last Son of Krypton website contacted Abrams’ agent David Lonner. He offered this comment: "This is a first draft that is going to have changes and many polishes." That statement would indicate that the script dropped at AICN’s doorstep is authentic, but that the story may still have major changes ahead of it.

Corona Coming Attractions has also been following the action, giving a play-by-play of what’s been going on behind closed doors at Warner Bros.

According to CCA’s insiders, since WB’s president of worldwide production (Lorenzo di Bonaventura) left, there has been a power struggle... not only for his position but for a spot as producer on Superman. It was announced Wednesday that Jon Peters (Batman franchise) now has that job.

Additionally, the site claims that Brian Robbins and Michael Tollin of Tollin/Robbins, the production company behind Smallville, are upset that Abrams’ script for Superman smashes the continuity set up on the television show. The site also reports that WB is considering ending Smallville soon to allow the Superman film to stand on its own, without having to worry about discrepancies the film and the television series.

Warner Bros. announced Wednesday evening that Brett Ratner (Red Dragon) is attached to direct Superman.

Phil Clark
09-28-2002, 07:03 AM
Well, with Ratner now officially attached to the project, and the shake-up occuring at Warner over the leaking of the script, you can be sure that the script will at least get MAJOR rewrites, if not scrapped completely. I think that JJ Abrams could change the bad part of the script and turn it into something very cool. But it is entirely possible that the film may just die right now.

We will just have to wait and see.

Tight-Pants Jack
09-28-2002, 12:45 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather if they not make a Superman movie at all then to have them go along with this script.

I could wait another ten years if it meant getting a good film on the big screen that everyone would enjoy.

Tight-Pants Jack
09-28-2002, 02:28 PM
Aint-It-Cool-News (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com) just posted this article, where they actually spoke to J. J. Abrams about his Superman script;

Click here to read it! (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=13404)

It sort of a relief, but not by much. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Inkthinker
09-28-2002, 02:59 PM
Jeez... people threatened to kill his wife? And then we wonder why comics fans are stigmatized... we blow shit WAY out of proportion. I mean, I don't wan't this movie to suck either, but I draw the line at threatening people with violence.


Laying aside the sad confirmation that too many geeks out there need to be tied to a chair and slapped like the proverbial red-headed stepchild until they get a freaking proper perspective on the world... I am glad to see that the fans can be heard, and that their voice combined can make a difference. We DO matter, we DO have a say if we all believe in something strong enough, and that makes me feel a warm and snuggly inside.

:D

But he still needs to blow up Krypton... Superman without blowing up Krypton is like Spiderman without killing off Uncle Ben... it's just a bad idea.

Jedmo9000
09-29-2002, 05:15 PM
I was just thinking about this. If Krypton doesnt explode then where in the HELL does Kryptonite come from? Unless I'm mistaken its the radioactive pieces of Krypton after it explodes. How come nobody has picked up on this glaring logic hole?

dmario
09-29-2002, 11:06 PM
I dont buy this guys story,


THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW SUPERMAN UP:mad:

The reason SPiderman worked is because it STUCK WITH HIS ORIGIN.
they changd "technichal" parts for the y2k so it would be more believeable, but that was fine, its not different than making wolverines claws come out from between his fingers than the back of his hands, its a MINOR change we can live with.