Playstation 3

[dmario]

http://ngcsource.gamegrounds.net/PS3Source/index.html
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[Inkthinker]

Ah, yes... I've been hearing about this. Sounds quite interesting... I'm sure we'll get to do the whole "import-export super-processors" spiel again

:rolleyes:

I'm vaguely amused that the laws of supply and demand are causing the computers in console platforms to surpass the home PCs in processing abilities so quickly...

[Devilman]

that might make me actually buy one of those things. I've never purchased a playstation before, but I'd feel obligated if they're going to spend 40 million on chip development alone. *i feel so ashamed now :(

[MC Fumunda]

no no john...that's 400 million...


and i'm not sure aboot this...it doesn't seem like a very reputable source...

[dmario]

PlayStation 3 thinks outside the box

Report: PS2 successor would be hardware-free by 2005

September 6, 2002 Posted: 9:51 AM EDT (1351 GMT)

TOKYO, Japan (Reuters) -- While Sony Corp. basks in the success of its PlayStation 2 in the $30 billion-plus-a-year videogame market, expectations are rising that its successor will be out of the box by 2005, in an entirely different form.
Sony remains tight-lipped about the timing of the next generation's debut, but it is dropping some hints about the product's likely shape -- or more accurately, lack of shape.
"We're not thinking about hardware," said Kenichi Fukunaga, spokesman for Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE), the Sony subsidiary that develops and makes the PlayStation.
"The ideal solution would be having an operating system installed in various home appliances that could run game programs," he said.
Fuelling expectations of a 2005 target date is a microchip project among SCE, Toshiba Corp., Japan's largest chipmaker and co-producer of the PlayStation 2's complex microprocessor, and International Business Machines Corp.
The four-year project, code-named "cell" and due for completion in spring 2005, aims to create a powerful processor for home electronics with ultra-fast Internet connections that could, for example, transmit high-resolution moving pictures.
"It's possible PlayStation 3 would come out in 2005, since that's when Sony's cell project will yield something," said Kazuharu Miura, an analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research Ltd.

Broadband, box-free
He added that, by 2005, Japan's broadband infrastructure for high-speed Internet service would be largely complete and Sony would likely have a clearer idea of what kind of online games people want to play.
SCE said it had not decided how to integrate the cell processor into its next game console, but the general idea was to use the chip in Internet servers and home electronics to divide computing tasks among networked machines.
This would give the devices as much processing power as a supercomputer, such as IBM's "Deep Blue" machine that defeated Gary Kasparov at chess, and enable them to handle everything from games to video recording to downloading data from the Internet.
"We've started with boxes -- making boxes to do specific things, but if you have a chip this powerful you can add functions to any box. It's reverse thinking," said SCE's Fukunaga.
PlayStation 2, with more than 33 million machines sold since its launch in March 2000, has dwarfed sales of rival consoles released last year: Microsoft's Xbox and Nintendo's GameCube.
But the competition looks unlikely to let Sony have the next generation all to itself.
In July, the Wall Street Journal reported that Microsoft was considering launching a new game machine in 2003 or 2004 that would cost about $500 and be able to pause live TV and record programs onto a hard drive.
Sony earlier this week launched a home video recorder with just those functions, the first product in its Cocoon line of home electronics that will hook up to the Internet.

[danimation2001]

funny, while people are working hard to find a cure for cancer, there are people working hard to create a faster playstation3.

The funny thing is, I really don't care, I'm definitely going to buy a PS3 now.

[TheFightingFoetus]

I personally see it as a waste of effort on Sony's part.

Let's be honest, the PS2's power has hardly even been tapped! If Sony were to come out with a Ram card, to help crank up some of the resolutions and textures, I can't see any need for them to come out with a new system so soon.

Remember, as systems get older, their games generally tend to get better and better. I'm sure you all understand that game developers need a few years of 'practice', on a system, before they really figure it all out. To opt out of that now, when they have a very powerful 128 bit processer, seems to be a waste.

Maybe they just want to cater to an audience that believes that newer is always better, but it's my opinion that they could *easily* sell their costomers an expansion kit, that could make the PS2 the most powerful system, if they really wanted to. I'd bet they could do it for 99 bucks or less, since companies seem to thrive on hardware sales losses anyway...maybe 79.99.

And be honest, if they came out with a chip, or something similar, wouldn't you rather upgrade a system that's just beginning it's 3rd generation of games?

Remember how far Nintendo has shown us they can push their systems. If you don't remember, put Mario 3 up to Mario 1, then next to Mario World. Damned impressive stuff, for an 8 bit 8088 processor!

So hang on, to what you got, 'cause what you got is quite a lot.:confused:

[E.J.Su]

Add-on hardwares has always been a bad idea.

if a game is written for an add-on, that means they can only sold to partial user base of PS2, because not everyone who owns a PS2 is going to buy the add-on.

[...o...k....]

I'm still waiting for the PS9. (Remember that commercial??)


Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus
Let's be honest, the PS2's power has hardly even been tapped! If Sony were to come out with a Ram card, to help crank up some of the resolutions and textures, I can't see any need for them to come out with a new system so soon.

Remember, as systems get older, their games generally tend to get better and better. I'm sure you all understand that game developers need a few years of 'practice', on a system, before they really figure it all out. To opt out of that now, when they have a very powerful 128 bit processer, seems to be a waste.


Sony forces game makers to sign an agreement that restricts the power used in the games for their system. Gradually more and more of the system's power is tapped. It extends the life of the system.

[Zackie Chan]

This sucks, I just bought a PS2 this, past month. I don't want a PS3 in 2005, I want more ram and memory for the one I got.


Isn't the PS9 the one where it's played through your head/brain. That was such a cool commercial.

[Rage-of-Xenin]

maybe PS3 will have 4 controller ports this time...

[Inkthinker]

Originally posted by ...o...k....
I'm still waiting for the PS9. (Remember that commercial??)



Sony forces game makers to sign an agreement that restricts the power used in the games for their system. Gradually more and more of the system's power is tapped. It extends the life of the system.

Not to mention that certain elements involved in programming for the PS2 are difficult and take time to adapt to... the reason that Grand Theft Auto - Vice City looks so much nicer than Grand Theft Auto 3 is that the programmers had only figured out how to do good streaming textures towards the end of the previous project. Now that they understand the operating system better they can program tighter, more effective code. It;s a learning process...

[ghost-x]

I don't really trust the source. But, that's just me. A lot of those smaller sites literally make up their news just for the hell of it. Some of it sounds true, but that's the point... Do a search for Playstation 3 on google and you'll find a lot of fake product specs, news, and photos.

[danimation2001]

Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus
I personally see it as a waste of effort on Sony's part.

Let's be honest, the PS2's power has hardly even been tapped! If Sony were to come out with a Ram card, to help crank up some of the resolutions and textures, I can't see any need for them to come out with a new system so soon.

Remember, as systems get older, their games generally tend to get better and better. I'm sure you all understand that game developers need a few years of 'practice', on a system, before they really figure it all out. To opt out of that now, when they have a very powerful 128 bit processer, seems to be a waste.



Basically they've got all this power and they don't even know how to use it. It's so pathetic to see the crapola of games that they come up with in the beginning.

I'm extremely glad that I did not buy a PS2. I wished that sega was still here... *sigh* ****ing sell outs... :(

[Rage-of-Xenin]

HERE IS THE TRUTH!

http://www.misinformer.com/archive/2001/01/15/

[TheFightingFoetus]

Sony forces game makers to sign an agreement that restricts the power used in the games for their system. Gradually more and more of the system's power is tapped. It extends the life of the system.

Where on earth did you hear that???:confused: If developers could make games that look 5th, or 6th generation, they would, but the fact is, they have to learn how to program for each system. After they've made a few games, they usually better understand what to do, and what not to do, to make the games look and run better.



Add-on hardwares has always been a bad idea. if a game is written for an add-on, that means they can only sold to partial user base of PS2, because not everyone who owns a PS2 is going to buy the add-on.


As opposed to the rift that would be created, by releasing a PS3, when the PS2 still hasn't reached an installed user-base, that's even close to the PS1?

How many years did they wait between PS1 and PS2?

And what I'm getting at, is that with a 128 bit processer, that hasn't been pushed anywhere near it's limits, I think more people would be willing to spend 79.99, than to go out buy a new system, yet again.

Especially what with the hard drive coming out. Treat your system like the gaming machine it is, and give it upgrades every once in a while. Ram expansion would do a ton, to help make the games compete graphically with the GameCube and X-box.