Thor Redesign (K.O. - Raede)

[Joel Harris]

Ok, this is our vision of the Marvel version of Thor.

Xadrian:
http://www.polariscomics.com/artwork/thorredux.jpg

Rey de las Cabras:
http://www.michaelwhitestudios.com/thor3.jpg

Joel Harris:
http://www.art-community.com/member/Mister%20H/thoredux.jpg

One more in next post--------->>>

[Joel Harris]

Raede:
http://www.art-community.com/member/raede/thorclr.jpg

Ok... vote!

[muthmaniac]

I voted Raede. His was unique, stylized and I loved the design on the hammer....I'd like to see a more detailed view of the design sometime!! It was really excellent. I had some issues with the drawing, and the extreme exaggeration on the hands and feet, but overall I thought his came out the best. :)

They all came out nicely though, and there are things that I liked avout each ones:

1. XAdrian's has a great, "Great White North" feel to it.

2. I liked the fluffiness of Rey's Thor's boots. *Although, I felt the kung-fu pose was overkill....

3. And I've commented on Joels' already. :)

good job guys.

-John

[Rey de las Cabras]

I really like Raede's design, its great, but it doesn't say Thor to me... It looks more celtic and honestly the hammer looks mezo-american rather than norse. Xadrian's is probably the truest vision of a Norse god, with the exception that he looks a little too benevolent. Just cause Thor is a "good guy" doesn't mean he was really a nice guy. The Norse gods really were bastards on a lot of occasions.





:( - kung fu pose? he's swinging a forty pound sledge with one arm...

[nate lovett]

i just wanted to let you know how i came up w/ mine. i actually tried to base him off of the way he was portrayed in mythology, that be a red headed drunk bastard. as for the exagerated hands and feet, that's just how i've always drawn characters. i could do it with them more perportionatly, but i come from an animation background, so i'd rather give it more of a cartoon feel. that and sam keith's early work influenced me a bit.

actually i think we all did a helluva job!

[TheFightingFoetus]

I like Raede's design, but I'd rather the green be blue. But he(?) gets my vote.

Xadrian's is nice too, but he could be a bit, grander. I like where you are going with this, though. :)

[muthmaniac]

Rey - kung fu pose? he's swinging a forty pound sledge with one arm...

Yea, it's a kung-fu pose!! Look at almost any of these pseudo-manga esque drawings floating around, with their characters and the two fingers forward...blah blah blah...BTW, I wasn't trying to pick on you or anything. That was just what came to mind when I saw your piece. If it's not meant to be a "kung-fu" pose, then I accept that. :)


Raede as for the exagerated hands and feet, that's just how i've always drawn characters.

Well, I guess the thing that threw me was that the hands and everything are so big, yet he has a pretty tiny head....Which makes him look kind of goofy...In my opinion of course. Whatever floats your boat, as the saying goes. And I did vote for your drawing, so it's not like I hated it! :)

Looking at it again, also, I can see the "Mezo-American" thing of the hammer, but I still love it!! It's not like the Incan culture was the first to have dragons...were they?

Still, nice job all around...except for Joel, who should have used the other image! ;)

-John

[Joel Harris]

Well....at least I got one sympathy vote! ;) (My vote went to xadrian btw)

[Rey de las Cabras]

I can see how it might be a kung fu pose...its just...well its Thor and he obviously doesn't do kung fu, so how could it be? :D

But seriously, i do blacksmithing and whenever I am striker I stand like that to swing the hammer...granted I don't have a dramatic wind blowing beside me, but one arm goes forward to counter balance the other as you swing. And as far as the hand itself...ummm...I dunno. Originally I was gonna have him holding one opponent and another reeling from the backstroke of the hammer, but since it was no background I didn't know if that counted, so I just did a simple gesture that was semi-interesting.

[red7ine]

actually Joel, you got my vote... I think the 'T' chest tattoo would look really cool if it was a little bigger and a bit more stylized. Raede has something cool going on, but the giant feet and hands really detract from the picture. I hate voting when not all the entries are the same medium (some colored, some pencilled) so I tried to envision all of them in the black and white aspect only, and I think yours came out on top.

Good work all around, fellas


vaught

[xadrian]

While I'm not a big "the hand is bigger than a car" look, I like the design of Raede's Thor. It's very complete. And it also has horns (right on dude, fight the power)

I don't know much about the hammer though, it's very Incan or Asian, but I'm no scholar so that might be right.

Good stuff.

[TheFightingFoetus]

Actually, Xadrian, I agree with you about Xaede's drawing.

However, Thor is a character who I think needs to be drawn in the grandest scale possible. Not to knock any of you other guys, but when I think of Thor, I think of the biggest, baddest, mofo around.

While I don't think Xaede's hammer is "right on", and some of his proportions are a little crazy, 'tis still better that the son of Odin, be drawn with such majesty! *Ahem* Sorry 'bout the goofy text there...

[nate lovett]

let me rephrase something i said earlier. when i draw big men, like thor (come on he's a god), i give them big hands to go w/ everything else. everyone i draw has big hands but some are just larger than others, depends on their size.
as for the hammer, i went w/ the idea that since the viking ships we all see in pictures had these big dragons on the fronts, why not use that in thor's hammer. he is one of their gods.

[charkxl]

I vote for Joel's.

Ur re-design is pretty much similar to mine, its a shame I'm a 'no-show' though..

[xadrian]

wasn't dissin anyone, I think they all have a very distinct quality. I voted for raede's because of all the points mentioned; grandure, size, ornamentation. It's very beowulf, or 13th warrior. I never gave norse mythology such color and brightness, but it's a nice touch.

[Joel Harris]

Thanks Vaught and Charkxl. And to my mystery voter. Anyway, I thought I'd explain my take on the character. When I first made the challenge, I had said it would be our redesign of Marvel's version of Thor. So with that in mind, I tried to keep elements of the current Thor's costume, but just tweak it a little bit. I was trying to imagine him running around the Marvel U.

[Rey de las Cabras]

I as well was trying to re-image the marvel universe character rather than going strictly mytological.

I wasn't trying to say that the hammer in Raede's was bad, I rather like it as well, but it is very mezo-american...after two semesters of upper division art history of peru and mezo-america I would hope I would know.

[muthmaniac]

You guys seem to be getting worked up over nothing. You're posting your art in a popularity contest, if you don't win who cares...

Honestly, none of the entries look like anything that I would specifically say would belong in the Marvel Universe, with the slight exception of Rey's, who's looks kind of like a combo of the classic uniform and the new Ultimate one.

Joels' I think has nothing in common with the "conventional" Marvel Thor except for using the "T" on the belt thing, and the yellow tinge on the boots. Honestly, I think that a so called "GOD" having a giant T on their chest is ridiculous, whether they carry a large hammer or not.

Raede, did a nice job. His character looks comicbook-ish, which is really as far as you can go with fitting it into the Marvel Universe. As to the Mezo-American look of some of the stuff, for one: Vikings were explorers...and by Vikings, I'll extend that to the Norwegian people, just by default and guilty association. Hence, I have no problem accepting that their "Look" would have varied designs. As to the hammer itself, I don't believe that it looks strictly southwestern:

These are from a Smithsonian exhibit, showing "Viking" art:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/vikings/images/photos/posts3.gif
http://www.mnh.si.edu/vikings/images/photos/photo02.jpg

But, whatever...

-John

[Joel Harris]

John. Take a deep breath. :) It sounds like you're having a bad day, which I understand, believe me. I didn't realize I came off as being upset about anything. The tone of my post was meant to be friendly and informative, as I just thought it would be of some value to show where we were coming from with our interpretations. I always love reading the backstory on how creators' minds work. Btw, I don't think one of us mentioned anything about losing or winning, so I'm not sure what you're talking about in that instance.

Anyhoo, I will now litter my posts with smileys so you know I'm not upset. :) :p

[Rey de las Cabras]

mezo-american is not southwestern style...and those images don't look like Raede's hammer...

But on the other hand, as I said before, I like the hammer and was not trying to dis on it in anyway...and have never been upset in anyway, just trying to be informative...

[xadrian]

that's what I was missing, a shield...

blast.

[TheFightingFoetus]

has nothing in common with the "conventional" Marvel Thor except for using the "T" on the belt thing, and the yellow tinge on the boots. Honestly, I think that a so called "GOD" having a giant T on their chest is ridiculous, whether they carry a large hammer or not.

If Thor were to drink as much, as you'd expect the God of Thunder to, I believe that in a moment of drunken euphoria, he might opt to get a big "T" tattooed onto his chest. And really dude, if we lived in the Marvel universe, and Thor could read your puny man-text, he'd fly to your house and hit you with his hammer, 'till you whistled the star spangled banner. ;)

One problem that I've always had, with the conventional Marvel Thor, is that he doesn't get drunk enough. A problem which Xadrian and I solved with the aid of a lot of guys back when we were at the Wizard boards, some of whom kick it around here now.

Avengers Art Jam (http://xadrian.tripod.com/artjam.html)


Enjoy, The Death of The Avengers!

[muthmaniac]

Originally posted by TheFightingFoetus
If Thor were to drink as much, as you'd expect the God of Thunder to, I believe that in a moment of drunken euphoria, he might opt to get a big "T" tattooed onto his chest. And really dude, if we lived in the Marvel universe, and Thor could read your puny man-text, he'd fly to your house and hit you with his hammer, 'till you whistled the star spangled banner. ;)


I don't think that he would....as long as we're talking fictional motivations....I think that if he were so tanked he'd be more concerned on finding a few ladies to help him home.

Not too mention the whole thing about where he would find a tattoo parlor that could pierce his flesh...on Earth anyway.

But, this is all besides the point...

They're all good drawings. :)

-John

[dr_doom504]

i went with Raede but i really didn't feel anything with these redesigns;thor;

[xadrian]

I think it's safe to concede this victory to Raede. Well played ol' bean.

[inkslinger]

;thor; As the effin' new guy here I'm gonna have to go with Raede on this one. Reason being, while a fan of Thor, he's been given the personality of an alter-boy with muscles.....
The kick booty Thor of the Norse was a loud mouthed, tail hungery, bragging drunkard... who happend to be immortal and able to call down thunderbolts. Raede pulled off a hero that looks like he wouldn't be above crashing into a harem and downing a barrel of mead just for kicks and giggles....

;dvl;

[soulsyfn]

I was going to vote, but art community isnt letting me see a pic. So I will hold off on my vote till I can see all the pics.

[Jel]

So I'm not the only one who can neither see Rade's or Joel harris' designs?

Get it fixed guys!!!

[psico]

Yeah.. I cannot see all of them either..
I only see Xadrians...

[nate lovett]

there's a reason that you can't see them all, and that's because this thread was started back near the begining of september, back when art-community was still free and most of us had our pics up there. since then it has gone down and someone decided to bring this poll back from the dead. just some info......

[Joel Harris]

Yep, Raede hit it on the head. By the way, I closed the poll, seeing as how Raede kicked our butts. ;) Well, ok.... he kicked my butt. The others fared well for themselves. Congrats Raede, and good show, Xadrian and Rey.

[psico]

Oh... heh.. sorry.. I was really curious about it.

[nate lovett]

hey thanks everyone. i actally sond the original pencils to a friend of mine who's a big Thor fan, and have plans on using the design myself in my DENIZENS book, as soon as i get it up and running.

thanks again.:D